No, a lot of people in your fictional hypothetical seem to think it is okay. Cute that you invented strawpersons to argue against. Must have been an easy fight!
Did you really just accuse me of a strawman,which im not read the thread, many people other then you have said that it's ok don't believe me see the other post im quoting below.) But i digress you accused me of stawmaning when i was responding to a post in which you did the same too me.
Also, hilariously you just said exactly what I accused you of saying. You think if someone thinks social injustice is wrong they must call it out everywhere all the time or they're hypocritical. Rather than isolating instances for incremental gain. Your argument is literally 'you must always be against all social inequality or you're just a hypocrite. MLK was a hypocrite because he wasn't a feminist marxist.'
No, they don't have to call it out. but they can't defend the other social injustice as fair because it doesn't suit them. Which is what people are doing in this thread.
First of all, privilege. There's no d. Second of all, equalizing the playing fields is NOT disadvantaging "white males [getting] the short end of the stick]. To think this is to presume that we already have a level playing field and we're intentionally disadvantaging whites for simply being white. Not what it really is, which is recognizing that whites ALREADY have a structural advantage that needs to be fixed. To prevent someone from accessing their privilege is NOT racism, it is NOT discrimination, and it most certainly is NOT bigotry.
That's a nice theory but you don't stop the privileged you just shift the discrimination.
The fact that white people cry "(reverse) racism" when their access to structural advantages is limited astounds me.
Sure that's exactly why my Half white half hispanic cousin always identifies himself as hispanic for special treatment. Whit people have no structural advantages, RICH white people do.
Yes, God forbid, some people might have to give up privilege for equality, and you clearly don't know what you're talking about - equality at the cost of another group is not equality.
Your not having people give up privilege for equality. You asking for privilege to create equality. Someone has to give something up for you to gain the privilege, in this case it's poor and mid class white males. So in the end you don't eliminate discrimination you shift it too white males. I've seen this happen to people close to me. My brother is a firefighter and great at what he does. He more then once has had a black man hired over him, even though he was more qualified and scored better on both written and physical tests because of what happened 10 years before he decided to become a firefighter. That thing being some black people where discriminated against in hiring practices. Instead of the people who discriminated those black men being punished, my brother is. How is this fair or equal?
Edit: sorry pls move this to debate or add it to the current thread and move it to debate.
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Someone link to the other thread? I'm also curious to see how this goes down.
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Thanks, I somehow couldn't find the Debate forum at first, haha.
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Did you really just accuse me of a strawman,which im not read the thread, many people other then you have said that it's ok don't believe me see the other post im quoting below.) But i digress you accused me of stawmaning when i was responding to a post in which you did the same too me.
No, they don't have to call it out. but they can't defend the other social injustice as fair because it doesn't suit them. Which is what people are doing in this thread.
That's a nice theory but you don't stop the privileged you just shift the discrimination.
Sure that's exactly why my Half white half hispanic cousin always identifies himself as hispanic for special treatment. Whit people have no structural advantages, RICH white people do.
Your not having people give up privilege for equality. You asking for privilege to create equality. Someone has to give something up for you to gain the privilege, in this case it's poor and mid class white males. So in the end you don't eliminate discrimination you shift it too white males. I've seen this happen to people close to me. My brother is a firefighter and great at what he does. He more then once has had a black man hired over him, even though he was more qualified and scored better on both written and physical tests because of what happened 10 years before he decided to become a firefighter. That thing being some black people where discriminated against in hiring practices. Instead of the people who discriminated those black men being punished, my brother is. How is this fair or equal?
Edit: sorry pls move this to debate or add it to the current thread and move it to debate.
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New thread in the correct forum. Discuss topic there, where it will not be locked for being off-topic.
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Thanks, I somehow couldn't find the Debate forum at first, haha.