In Gatherer today, I noticed that all of the Mirage legends have retroactively been given creature types. Purraj of Urborg is now a Cat Warrior, Shauku is now a Vampire, and so on. Hopefully this will become a trend, I would love to find out what Gwendlyn di Corci's job type is
So if anyone has any predictions for what other former legends' new creature types will be, post them here.
Maro-sorcerers are not treefolk, but nature spirits, embodiment of the living force of nature. Multani and Molimo would be both probably Legendary Creature - Spirit, such as Maro itself (with legendary status added).
Also, I do not presume that Grandmother Sengir, Irini Sengir and Veldrane of Sengir are Vampires. I would take them for Human Wizard (Granny), Dwarf (info from the comics) Wizard (Irini), and maybe Human(Elf?) Warrior (Veldrane).
They're only changing the Mirage creature types because it's being released in MtGO. As far as I know, they don't have any plans to retroactively add creature types to all Legends in existence.
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I highly doubt that this is a trend. They are only redoing the creature types in time for mirage's debut on Magic the Gathering Online, just like they recently did the rules change for substance (look it up on gatherer if you have no idea what I'm talking about)
I am glad that you corrected me, brother Rick. That is my fault, I have suggested the Spirit alternative. But heck, it was better than void's initial Treefolk Shaman option...:p
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Granny Sengir and Dakkon Blackblade are supposed to be Planeswalkers with their planes-traveling-powers removed. Of course, noone at WotC will remember that, and they'd become Human Something's. Luckily, those two will never be reprinted, and thus will not recieve erataed creature types.
Iringi was a dwarven princes turned vampire by the Baron, so she could be a Vampire Dwarf (and if there is enough room, a Minion). Veldrane was a child of the Baron and a normal human girl, but its unknown wether he is a vampire or not. His ability seems to suggest he's a Lycanthrope though (Turning into a less powerfull wolf to sneak into the forest).
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Volrath would probably be a Horror. He was once human, but was corrupted by the Phyrexians - and those are most often than not horrors. He was human once, so perhaps a Human Horror?
Interesting aside: It's intriguing how humans are still treated differently from other races. An undead elf is an Elf Zombie. An undead insect is an Insect Zombie. An undead Human? A zombie. Go figure!
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except eldamri can't be an elf as that would make him insanely overly powered unless they added the clause "other elves"
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I am not sure why we are still arguing over this. Wizards is only changing the legends in Mirage because it is being put online. As of now, no other changes will be made. If they decide to release other older sets online, then this can be resurrected, but it has been stated by Wizards that they don't have other future plans for releasing other sets online. This thread has no point. Maybe later it might, but as of now it doesn't, so stop talking and speculating about it. It is simply a waste of time right now
I am not sure why we are still arguing over this. Wizards is only changing the legends in Mirage because it is being put online. As of now, no other changes will be made. If they decide to release other older sets online, then this can be resurrected, but it has been stated by Wizards that they don't have other future plans for releasing other sets online. This thread has no point. Maybe later it might, but as of now it doesn't, so stop talking and speculating about it. It is simply a waste of time right now
This post doesn't have a point either :slant:.
Look, people enjoy discussing this. Obviously it doesn't mean anything. Even if we knew that Wizards was going to change every legend, speculating at that point wouldn't amount to anything either. So what?
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It seems sort of silly to ridicule a company for marketing efforts. Of course they are going to hype upcoming products, every company on the face of the planet does it, and it works, thats why they do it. There isn't really any sense complaining about it. If you don't like the marketing, ignore it.
I am not sure why we are still arguing over this. Wizards is only changing the legends in Mirage because it is being put online. As of now, no other changes will be made. If they decide to release other older sets online, then this can be resurrected, but it has been stated by Wizards that they don't have other future plans for releasing other sets online. This thread has no point. Maybe later it might, but as of now it doesn't, so stop talking and speculating about it. It is simply a waste of time right now
But most of the legends don't have creature types. That needs to be rectified at one point or another, doesn't it?
So if anyone has any predictions for what other former legends' new creature types will be, post them here.
My Predictions:
Maraxus of Keld - Human Berserker
Morinfen - Horror
Dong Zhou the Tyrant - Human Lord
Marton Stromgald - Human Knight
Kongming, Sleeping Dragon - Human Advisor
Meng Hou, Barbarian King - Human Barbarian (duh)
Multani, Maro Sorceror - Spirit
Molimo, Maro Sorceror - Spirit
Phelddagrif - Phelddagrif
Reveka, Wizard Savant- Dwarf Wizard (read the flavor text)
Starke of Rath - Human Rogue
Anybody with Sengir in their name: Vampire
Vhati il-Dal - Human Minion
Ascendant Evincar - Human Lord or Vampire Lord, probably.
Gerrard Capashen - Human Soldier (Human Pansy if it was up to me, but I'm not R&D)
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Also, I do not presume that Grandmother Sengir, Irini Sengir and Veldrane of Sengir are Vampires. I would take them for Human Wizard (Granny), Dwarf (info from the comics) Wizard (Irini), and maybe Human(Elf?) Warrior (Veldrane).
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I am glad that you corrected me, brother Rick. That is my fault, I have suggested the Spirit alternative. But heck, it was better than void's initial Treefolk Shaman option...:p
Thanks, Squirle. It is good to have somebody who actually read the comics in our midst
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Gerrard Capashen: Human Soldier
Cromat: Dragon OR Beast
Empress Galina: Merfolk Lord
Ascendant Evincar: Vampire Lord
Volrath the Fallen: Minion (he's not exactly human)
And too many others that I don't have time to do.
As for Gwendolyn, though? My guess would be "Human Rogue", but a Rogue in terms of morals only.
If Volrath was a shapeshifter.. what did he need a shapeshifter for.. Volrath's Shapeshifter
Interesting aside: It's intriguing how humans are still treated differently from other races. An undead elf is an Elf Zombie. An undead insect is an Insect Zombie. An undead Human? A zombie. Go figure!
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He posed as Takara in Mercadian Masques, posed as a Kor in Nemesis and was commonly seen elongating his limbs.
Yup, definately fits shapeshifter requirements :p.
Gallowbraids, to accompany Morinfen, would also be a Horror.
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This post doesn't have a point either :slant:.
Look, people enjoy discussing this. Obviously it doesn't mean anything. Even if we knew that Wizards was going to change every legend, speculating at that point wouldn't amount to anything either. So what?
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Karona, False God probably won't recieve a new creature type since its already been released online.
Would the ascendent evincar be a vampire? crovax was, but since the name is non-specific, I'm not sure...
And I vaguely remember Eron the Relentless being a 'walker... so that would make him...? Is Gosta Dirk a Mer?
My thoughts:
Adun Oakenshield -Elf Cleric/shaman
Agnus Mackenzie -Human Cleric
Asmira -Angel? Spirit?
Autumn Willow -Elemental Spirit?
Axelrod Gunnarson -Giant Shaman
Bartel Runeaxe- Barbarian rogue
Boris Devilboon -Wizard Minion? or would it be ClericMinion?
Chandlar & Joven - Human Artificer
Greven il-vec -Minion Lord
Cromat- I have no idea... Dragon? Elemental? Both?
Daughter of Autumn -One, why is this a legend when the flavor text says there is more then one? Cleric...
Eladamri -Elf lord, and would more then likely recieve erreta
Ertai & Barrin - Human Wizard
Gen. Jarkeld - Soldier Lord, I guess
Hakim Loreweaver -Human Wizard with strange ability that has nothing to do with telling stories
Halfdane- Shapeshifter
Hazduhr the Abbot- Cleric
Hazezon Tamar- Warrior Lord
Ihsan's Shade -Horror Spirit Minion
Irini Sengir -Dwarf Minion
jedit O -Cat Warrior... and a erreta in the mana cost...
Johan - Demon Spirit or just spirit?
Kasimir the Lone Wolf -rogue Monk!
Kaysa -Spirit? Druid? Both?
Maraxus o' Keld -Human/Elemental/Barbarian/giant...
Phelddagrif -Hippopotomous Warrior
Purraj of Urborg -Kat warrior
Ragnar - Human Shaman
Rashida & Rashka -Human Slayer?
Reveka, Wizard Savant -Dwarf Wizard
Sidar Jabari -Knight Lord
Sol'Kanar -I haven't a clue where to start... Guesss I'll finish up later...
But most of the legends don't have creature types. That needs to be rectified at one point or another, doesn't it?
no, not really...
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