So, let's address the elephant in the room. Or rather the giant phyrexian praetor in the room, because you don't get one phyrexian. You either get zero phyrexians or you get an invasion. Then there are some things that might be taken as subtle hints, like the mechanical look of some of the giants, Toski's metal claw and so on. And now we got poison, the staple mechanic of phyrexians, on a dude that fights snakes.
Then there is the gameplay aspect - we got the phyrexian type for one creature? Also, this set has a whole lot going on - snow, treasure, changeling, sagas, foretell, boast... It would make sense for it to be introductory set of a two-parter, rather than standalone. Plus the aforementioned poison - bringing back a mechanic for one card?
So, what are the chances that Strixhaven is a red herring like Mirrodin pure and we get a full-scale invasion into Kaldheim instead?
My theory is ragnorak will be depicted in kaldheim (the apocalypse of Norse mythology) and it’s the phyrexian invasion on kaldheim started by vorinclex getting the realm sword
the Number 1 theory on how vorinclex got here because tibalt either intentionally or accidentally opened up a planar portal to new phyrexia for a brief moment and vorinclex got in before it close
here’s where the invasion theory comes on the card Fall of the Imposter is tibalt getting defeat but at the top of the picture it’s clearly the resemblance is uncanning to vorinclex's shoulder pads and head but the kicker part the realm sword looks right on top of him which may mean he got the realm sword from tibalt
theory is vorinclex somehow gets the sword the. He opens up the new phyrexia portal again but this time leaves it open for all the phyrexians to raid kaldheim (especially for Jin-Gitaxias and elesh norn and depending if they are alive sheoldred and urabrask)
thus creating the ragnorak in kaldheim which was the ultimate battle that predicted deaths of several gods
And for strixhaven one of the praetors goes over there to prep for next attack to whatever plane strixhaven is on
Edit: and now I know where Kaya and vorinclex were fighting in the tyrite sanctum (the art on Kaya's onslaught) now vorinclex’s blood which is phyrexian oil may have gotten in there
And phyrexian oil causes phyrexians to instantly adapt to stuff it touch’s unless I need corrected
watch on the 18th or 19th of spoiler season being the phyrexian cards on kaldheim (ragnarok)
First things first: I don't think Strixhaven is a red herring (in the sense of a new setting that is as described). The trade-off of lying to the audience is far less enticing than the trade-off of keeping information secret or incomplete.
But that doesn't mean that there isn't a plan for MtG's Ragnarok coming up. I imagine a few sets setting up planes infiltrated by the New Phyrexians and maybe another event set showing a - this time successful - planar invasion.
I think the story-beats so far as you describe them make for the perfect situation to have "just one Phyrexian"... for now. And a wholly different story for the next time we see Kaldheim. I just think it doesn't need to be an immediate follow-up set. Having the setting return e. g. right next year is just the kind of flexibility, I think, the new system allows nicely.
Also I want to add with regard to the mechanics...
Also, this set has a whole lot going on - snow, treasure, changeling, sagas, foretell, boast... It would make sense for it to be introductory set of a two-parter, rather than standalone. Plus the aforementioned poison - bringing back a mechanic for one card?
Considering Sagas and Treasures being basically deciduous, plus changeling and snow being really low-impact mechanics (changeling is really utilitarian, and snow only slightly above the level of a subtype-matters theme) the mechanics are perfectly fine for the set - definitely less than KTK/DTK got.
It's obvious the Phyrexian creature type and the poison counters and probably even the partial-metal creatures etc. are building towards something. But it's far from conclusive that the thing that it is building towards has to happen immediately.
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Also, from a narrative perspective, Wizards is running out of major villains. Nicol Bolas is out of commission for now. The Eldrazi are out of commission, with Emrakul settling on Innistrad's moon to keep the Lovecraftian lore going. The Phyrexians are currently the only other major villain Wizards can use, so having them show up on various planes for the next couple of sets gives them time to put other villains in the pipeline. Wizards could develop new ones or bring up old ones like Tezzeret.
Well, Idk if it is a placeholder name but again maybe it is just another plane that will have an invasion going.
Imo Forgothen Realms or Innistrad Vapires/Innistrad Werewolfs are better placeholders for Invasion of Plane X. Would make more sense if Innistrad Vampires/Werewolfs were placeholders for Invasion of Kaldheim / Invasion of Strixhaven imo
Well, Idk if it is a placeholder name but again maybe it is just another plane that will have an invasion going.
Imo Forgothen Realms or Innistrad Vapires/Innistrad Werewolfs are better placeholders for Invasion of Plane X. Would make more sense if Innistrad Vampires/Werewolfs were placeholders for Invasion of Kaldheim / Invasion of Strixhaven imo
Could be. It's true that "magic school" theme lends itself well to the invasion of extraplanar horrors, one experiment gone bad and suddenly you have a basement full of Phyrexians.
Forgotten Realms are imo safe, it's supposed to be in the place of a core set, right? And as for Innistrad, it would be a weird choice for a placeholder. People are too fond of the plane, it would upset too many fans if it turned out to be the case.
A theory among my friends is that Vorinclux being on Kaldheim is Tezzeret’s doing, since he is the most likely person to take possession of the planar bridge after Bolas was defeated and Tezzeret also has personally interacted with the Praetors.
As for why Tezzeret put Vorinclux on Kaldheim, my guess is that he’s creating a distraction. He has big plans on some other plane and is trying to wreak havoc everywhere else to draw away the attention of the planeswalkers that would try to stop him. So I’m guessing that he’s portaled few of the Praetors to different planes. I think Strixhaven might be where Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur has been portaled, since he is obsessed with trying to learn as much as possible about magic. I can also see Sheoldred and/or Elesh Norn in Innistrad, since that plane could fit either one of them.
A theory among my friends is that Vorinclux being on Kaldheim is Tezzeret’s doing, since he is the most likely person to take possession of the planar bridge after Bolas was defeated and Tezzeret also has personally interacted with the Praetors.
As for why Tezzeret put Vorinclux on Kaldheim, my guess is that he’s creating a distraction. He has big plans on some other plane and is trying to wreak havoc everywhere else to draw away the attention of the planeswalkers that would try to stop him. So I’m guessing that he’s portaled few of the Praetors to different planes. I think Strixhaven might be where Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur has been portaled, since he is obsessed with trying to learn as much as possible about magic. I can also see Sheoldred and/or Elesh Norn in Innistrad, since that plane could fit either one of them.
oh it is tezzert in vorinclex lore it mentions his organic matter was lost during the travel but not the metal and bones (he got repaired thanks to a stag being a little too curious) that’s the exact description of what happens when something enters the bridge and Jin does know existence of other planes (he’s trying to repair the planar portal memnarch made)
and Jin is definately a good fit for strixhaven he can look for perfection over there
A theory among my friends is that Vorinclux being on Kaldheim is Tezzeret’s doing, since he is the most likely person to take possession of the planar bridge after Bolas was defeated and Tezzeret also has personally interacted with the Praetors.
As for why Tezzeret put Vorinclux on Kaldheim, my guess is that he’s creating a distraction. He has big plans on some other plane and is trying to wreak havoc everywhere else to draw away the attention of the planeswalkers that would try to stop him. So I’m guessing that he’s portaled few of the Praetors to different planes. I think Strixhaven might be where Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur has been portaled, since he is obsessed with trying to learn as much as possible about magic. I can also see Sheoldred and/or Elesh Norn in Innistrad, since that plane could fit either one of them.
oh it is tezzert in vorinclex lore it mentions his organic matter was lost during the travel but not the metal and bones (he got repaired thanks to a stag being a little too curious) that’s the exact description of what happens when something enters the bridge and Jin does know existence of other planes (he’s trying to repair the planar portal memnarch made)
and Jin is definately a good fit for strixhaven he can look for perfection over there
Isn't it a universal feature of planar travel (except planeswalkers)? I think I recall Huatli having her snack ruined during a regular planeswalk.
On an unrelated note, the distinction is pretty weird. Food and living tissue gets ruined, while organic fabric is fine. Also, didn't Nissa take some Zendikari seeds off-plane?
A theory among my friends is that Vorinclux being on Kaldheim is Tezzeret’s doing, since he is the most likely person to take possession of the planar bridge after Bolas was defeated and Tezzeret also has personally interacted with the Praetors.
As for why Tezzeret put Vorinclux on Kaldheim, my guess is that he’s creating a distraction. He has big plans on some other plane and is trying to wreak havoc everywhere else to draw away the attention of the planeswalkers that would try to stop him. So I’m guessing that he’s portaled few of the Praetors to different planes. I think Strixhaven might be where Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur has been portaled, since he is obsessed with trying to learn as much as possible about magic. I can also see Sheoldred and/or Elesh Norn in Innistrad, since that plane could fit either one of them.
oh it is tezzert in vorinclex lore it mentions his organic matter was lost during the travel but not the metal and bones (he got repaired thanks to a stag being a little too curious) that’s the exact description of what happens when something enters the bridge and Jin does know existence of other planes (he’s trying to repair the planar portal memnarch made)
and Jin is definately a good fit for strixhaven he can look for perfection over there
Isn't it a universal feature of planar travel (except planeswalkers)? I think I recall Huatli having her snack ruined during a regular planeswalk.
On an unrelated note, the distinction is pretty weird. Food and living tissue gets ruined, while organic fabric is fine. Also, didn't Nissa take some Zendikari seeds off-plane?
True but out of all of the walkers has connections to the phyrexians and the bridge once the organic matter part can survive is made is so far the only thing in existence so far that can let non walker things into other planes since the mending
True but out of all of the walkers has connections to the phyrexians and the bridge once the organic matter part can survive is made is so far the only thing in existence so far that can let non walker things into other planes since the mending
Sorry, I can't make any sense of this sentence. Sure, Tezzeret is a good candidate, but the destruction of organic matter isn't tied specifically to the bridge, afaik. There could be other mechanisms at play, maybe we could finally start to see what Children of the Nameless was all about with the "entity" stuff.
True but out of all of the walkers has connections to the phyrexians and the bridge once the organic matter part can survive is made is so far the only thing in existence so far that can let non walker things into other planes since the mending
Sorry, I can't make any sense of this sentence. Sure, Tezzeret is a good candidate, but the destruction of organic matter isn't tied specifically to the bridge, afaik. There could be other mechanisms at play, maybe we could finally start to see what Children of the Nameless was all about with the "entity" stuff.
I guess but what I know for sure they are gonna test the tyrite with whatever portal they made and see if the organic matter stays.
oh sorry you don’t know what I’m talking about the last story was shown
He’s the first to find esika sanctuary and by just barely esika is still alive after vorinclex brutal attack on her and tells her
"Not enough hunger in you. Not enough fear to survive. Soon, though."
by that soon part I see “eventually you will end up compleated”
He gets a sample from the Tyrite Sanctum when she’s way to close to death to stop him
then signals a random phyrexian or praetor he got the sample and a red star pops out and turns to a portal back to new phyrexia and is greeted by a praetor/phyrexian/atraxa
and Yes she witness the portal being open and knows it’s not a cosmo portal and even hears the horrifying phyrexian tone of voice say
"Welcome back, Vorinclex. We step ever closer to perfection.
Side note: Does anyone foresee (!) any connection with the Tyrite Sanctum and The Ozolith in storytelling terms? Or will there be a tie-in in the near future?
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Then there is the gameplay aspect - we got the phyrexian type for one creature? Also, this set has a whole lot going on - snow, treasure, changeling, sagas, foretell, boast... It would make sense for it to be introductory set of a two-parter, rather than standalone. Plus the aforementioned poison - bringing back a mechanic for one card?
So, what are the chances that Strixhaven is a red herring like Mirrodin pure and we get a full-scale invasion into Kaldheim instead?
Or (yawn) we return to Kaldheim in a couple of years to see the aftermath of an invasion.
the Number 1 theory on how vorinclex got here because tibalt either intentionally or accidentally opened up a planar portal to new phyrexia for a brief moment and vorinclex got in before it close
here’s where the invasion theory comes on the card Fall of the Imposter is tibalt getting defeat but at the top of the picture it’s clearly the resemblance is uncanning to vorinclex's shoulder pads and head but the kicker part the realm sword looks right on top of him which may mean he got the realm sword from tibalt
theory is vorinclex somehow gets the sword the. He opens up the new phyrexia portal again but this time leaves it open for all the phyrexians to raid kaldheim (especially for Jin-Gitaxias and elesh norn and depending if they are alive sheoldred and urabrask)
thus creating the ragnorak in kaldheim which was the ultimate battle that predicted deaths of several gods
And for strixhaven one of the praetors goes over there to prep for next attack to whatever plane strixhaven is on
Edit: and now I know where Kaya and vorinclex were fighting in the tyrite sanctum (the art on Kaya's onslaught) now vorinclex’s blood which is phyrexian oil may have gotten in there
And phyrexian oil causes phyrexians to instantly adapt to stuff it touch’s unless I need corrected
watch on the 18th or 19th of spoiler season being the phyrexian cards on kaldheim (ragnarok)
But that doesn't mean that there isn't a plan for MtG's Ragnarok coming up. I imagine a few sets setting up planes infiltrated by the New Phyrexians and maybe another event set showing a - this time successful - planar invasion.
I think the story-beats so far as you describe them make for the perfect situation to have "just one Phyrexian"... for now. And a wholly different story for the next time we see Kaldheim. I just think it doesn't need to be an immediate follow-up set. Having the setting return e. g. right next year is just the kind of flexibility, I think, the new system allows nicely.
Also I want to add with regard to the mechanics...
Considering Sagas and Treasures being basically deciduous, plus changeling and snow being really low-impact mechanics (changeling is really utilitarian, and snow only slightly above the level of a subtype-matters theme) the mechanics are perfectly fine for the set - definitely less than KTK/DTK got.
It's obvious the Phyrexian creature type and the poison counters and probably even the partial-metal creatures etc. are building towards something. But it's far from conclusive that the thing that it is building towards has to happen immediately.
Although ninjas are experts of camouflage and concealment, they are actually horrible liars. This means that no matter where you are, you can shout out, “Are there any ninjas here?” and if there’s a ninja within earshot, he’ll be compelled to respond.
Imo Forgothen Realms or Innistrad Vapires/Innistrad Werewolfs are better placeholders for Invasion of Plane X. Would make more sense if Innistrad Vampires/Werewolfs were placeholders for Invasion of Kaldheim / Invasion of Strixhaven imo
Could be. It's true that "magic school" theme lends itself well to the invasion of extraplanar horrors, one experiment gone bad and suddenly you have a basement full of Phyrexians.
Forgotten Realms are imo safe, it's supposed to be in the place of a core set, right? And as for Innistrad, it would be a weird choice for a placeholder. People are too fond of the plane, it would upset too many fans if it turned out to be the case.
As for why Tezzeret put Vorinclux on Kaldheim, my guess is that he’s creating a distraction. He has big plans on some other plane and is trying to wreak havoc everywhere else to draw away the attention of the planeswalkers that would try to stop him. So I’m guessing that he’s portaled few of the Praetors to different planes. I think Strixhaven might be where Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur has been portaled, since he is obsessed with trying to learn as much as possible about magic. I can also see Sheoldred and/or Elesh Norn in Innistrad, since that plane could fit either one of them.
oh it is tezzert in vorinclex lore it mentions his organic matter was lost during the travel but not the metal and bones (he got repaired thanks to a stag being a little too curious) that’s the exact description of what happens when something enters the bridge and Jin does know existence of other planes (he’s trying to repair the planar portal memnarch made)
and Jin is definately a good fit for strixhaven he can look for perfection over there
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Isn't it a universal feature of planar travel (except planeswalkers)? I think I recall Huatli having her snack ruined during a regular planeswalk.
On an unrelated note, the distinction is pretty weird. Food and living tissue gets ruined, while organic fabric is fine. Also, didn't Nissa take some Zendikari seeds off-plane?
True but out of all of the walkers has connections to the phyrexians and the bridge once the organic matter part can survive is made is so far the only thing in existence so far that can let non walker things into other planes since the mending
Sorry, I can't make any sense of this sentence. Sure, Tezzeret is a good candidate, but the destruction of organic matter isn't tied specifically to the bridge, afaik. There could be other mechanisms at play, maybe we could finally start to see what Children of the Nameless was all about with the "entity" stuff.
I guess but what I know for sure they are gonna test the tyrite with whatever portal they made and see if the organic matter stays.
oh sorry you don’t know what I’m talking about the last story was shown
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/episode-5-battle-kaldheim-2021-02-03
Vorinclex survives
He’s the first to find esika sanctuary and by just barely esika is still alive after vorinclex brutal attack on her and tells her
by that soon part I see “eventually you will end up compleated”
He gets a sample from the Tyrite Sanctum when she’s way to close to death to stop him
then signals a random phyrexian or praetor he got the sample and a red star pops out and turns to a portal back to new phyrexia and is greeted by a praetor/phyrexian/atraxa
and Yes she witness the portal being open and knows it’s not a cosmo portal and even hears the horrifying phyrexian tone of voice say
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