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After reading the most recent announcement it appears we will get a series of Commander decks to go along Lair of Behemoths. It was mentioned that Kiora will be one of the Commanders. Any speculation on what these decks will look like? Apparently there is 71 new cards as well.

Kiora will likely be a Blue Green Planeswalker Commander focusing on big splashy cards, ramp, and her obvious signature sea monsters.

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After reading the most recent announcement it appears we will get a series of Commander decks to go along Lake of Behemoths. It was mentioned that Kiora will be one of the Commanders. Any speculation on what these decks will look like? Apparently there is 71 new cards as well.

Kiora will likely be a Blue Green Planeswalker Commander focusing on big splashy cards, ramp, and her obvious signature sea monsters.

Where was kioria as a “can be your commander” confirmed?

So one is simic obviously


Any way almost a lock one of them will be a kaiju tribal or whatever type they choose for those giant monsters

Oh and they confirmed these decks are gonna essentially be commander 2020 another lock is 2 of the decks color combos will be WBG and GUR

(As a matter of fact temur could easily be the kaiju/behemoth tribal deck)

It's Lair of the Behemoths, FYI...

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It's Lair of the Behemoths, FYI...

Haha you know as I was writing this post I was like man this name just sounds off. Makes sense now haha

& I'm almost positive they will make a Kiora playable as a Commander if the whole deck is themed around her. Seems kind of silly not to, right?

I don't remember Kiora being mentioned at all. Did you get Kiora confused with "Ikoria", the name of the plane?

And they're doing five decks, tied to the Ikoria set. I'd be surprised if they're not just five mono-colored decks.

Which announcement is being referenced here? I don’t recall Kiora being confirmed, although I would love that if true. Let’s hope it is!

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I don't remember Kiora being mentioned at all. Did you get Kiora confused with "Ikoria", the name of the plane?

And they're doing five decks, tied to the Ikoria set. I'd be surprised if they're not just five mono-colored decks.

Yeah, I'm guessing it's just confusion over similar names. I know I've been having a really hard time lately with several very similarly named commanders.

if there's not a large monster theme for each, i'll be a little sad.

dragons seem like a shoe in.... RGB for sure (main:red)
giants is one we've seen in lorwyn....WR and realmcloaked giant would be a good fit. main: white
krakens in blue? kiora has a number of tribes that she's got affinity with; .serpents, octopi...even merfolk, though those arent "monsters"
black...demons?
green....probably hyrdras. we'll probably see more hydras in theros.

It's still commander 2020. We need an abzan and a temur deck because they are the only tricolor combination left out since they started the "4 deck by theme" approach
If Ikoria is really kaiju all over i hope for a godzilla-like creature for the temur and a mothra-like one for the abzan

Sorry guys I must have misread the article. I somehow took it as they were releasing 5 decks and one of them was a Kiora deck on lkoira, and the other 4 were unknown. Kiora made sense in my mind because she is all about giant sea monsters...

Anyhow, Commander seems like the perfect format for wanting to showcase giant legendary behemoths duking it out.

I'm curious to see if these monsters will be based off of godzilla monsters at all. It was obviously referenced. Also wonder what colors we would see.

Godzilla seems Green Red? Mostly green but he also shoots out a beam of irradiated energy which makes him kinda red.

I don't know... with like 9? new commander precon decks next year we can aspect everything.
5 in Ikoria
2 in Zendikar
2 with Commader Legends

They said that they want to give players the opportunity to build commander decks around new mechanics in sets. As example they mentioned energy from Kaladesh or adventure on Eldraine. So I guess that one of the Ikoria decks will have a "build your own monster"-mechanic focus, because that is the theme of Ikoria.
5 Decks on the other hand is a little strange. The new set mechanic will cover just one of the Decks and will likely be multicolor. 5 Decks on the other hand could open the door to 5 mono colored decks which were a problem with the 4 deck format before. Zendikar could be a 5 Colored Ally deck and a colorless Eldrazi Deck. They mentioned that Zendikar won't have a Eldrazi focus, though. If the first 5 decks are mono colored than the last two precons in Legends could be the two missing 3 colored deck of the 4-commander deck per year era.

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if there's not a large monster theme for each, i'll be a little sad.

dragons seem like a shoe in.... RGB for sure (main:red)
giants is one we've seen in lorwyn....WR and realmcloaked giant would be a good fit. main: white
krakens in blue? kiora has a number of tribes that she's got affinity with; .serpents, octopi...even merfolk, though those arent "monsters"
black...demons?
green....probably hyrdras. we'll probably see more hydras in theros.

I can probably tell you the creature types will/could appear in a Ikoria based on the kaiju movies (the coulda will be ?)

Dragon
Dinosaur
Cat?
Elemental?
Hydra
Wolf?
Snake?
Spider
Giant
Beast
Insect
Golem
Wurm & hellion
Kraken & leviathan
Lizard
Constrcut (robots essential since we gotten robots before in Godzilla)

And ofcoarse the most famous of them all Ape (King Kong)


And from all this I also predict a brand new creature type as well to present for these monsters

And I have three candidates behemoth/titan/kaiju are the candidates and many many creatures can be rested to any of these types

Would Cthulhu and Lovecraftian Horrors count as Leviathan or would we need another creature type for that?

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a new subtype to tack onto existing ones that implies Kaiju status and then use that subtype as the way to enhance and grow those creatures. Say the subtype is Behemoth, the cards would read "Enchant target Behemoth" or "Equip Behemoth", but they would all also have a regular creature type too so they'd all be like "Creature - Wolf Behemoth" or "Legendary Creature - Dinosaur Behemoth". In this theory anything could be a Behemoth and not just limit it to what we know of Kaiju type creatures. If we're getting wolves, apes, and crocodiles there has to be some influence from "Rampage!" which implies the whole idea of anything being a Kaiju, maybe even a way of Enchanting/Equipping non-Behemoth creatures to make them into Behemoths...geez...gigantic elks just ran through my head...hmm...why was there no real pay-off for having a ton of elk?

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Would Cthulhu and Lovecraftian Horrors count as Leviathan or would we need another creature type for that?

I wouldn't be surprised if we got a new subtype to tack onto existing ones that implies Kaiju status and then use that subtype as the way to enhance and grow those creatures. Say the subtype is Behemoth, the cards would read "Enchant target Behemoth" or "Equip Behemoth", but they would all also have a regular creature type too so they'd all be like "Creature - Wolf Behemoth" or "Legendary Creature - Dinosaur Behemoth". In this theory anything could be a Behemoth and not just limit it to what we know of Kaiju type creatures. If we're getting wolves, apes, and crocodiles there has to be some influence from "Rampage!" which implies the whole idea of anything being a Kaiju, maybe even a way of Enchanting/Equipping non-Behemoth creatures to make them into Behemoths...geez...gigantic elks just ran through my head...hmm...why was there no real pay-off for having a ton of elk?

I will put this in retro spective

That’s means emrakul has to be there then if you want a Cthulhu based creature (emrakul is the Cthulhu look at shadows over innistrad and Eldritch Moon)

The eldrazis are based cthulhu and I doubt that’s happens

They also have "horror" creature types for non-eldrazi eldritch stuff.

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They also have "horror" creature types for non-eldrazi eldritch stuff.

That’s true creatures in movies that would be considered horrors have Ben kaiju sized before

I say the kaijus Biollante/Destoroyah and Megaguirus would be considered horror level

Glad someone said it. Starting with the now terrible Cosmic Horror and remembering other gems like Pit Spawn or a hard cast Hypnox, there are a few noticeably big horrors out there.


Now, I would love for one of them to be a weenie tribal of the behemoths of Segovia!

Something tells me we won't see a lot of Dragons on Ikoria. Possibly also Dinosaurs, but that seems more likely to be included.

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Something tells me we won't see a lot of Dragons on Ikoria. Possibly also Dinosaurs, but that seems more likely to be included.

If there is a reference to King Ghidorah, there will probably be at least one dragon

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Something tells me we won't see a lot of Dragons on Ikoria. Possibly also Dinosaurs, but that seems more likely to be included.

Don’t forget king gidorah that’s a lock of atleast one

Actually hydra dragon actually