Wild guess here but I think the 2 commander decks that will release with Commander Legends will be Cats vs Dogs, 3 legends each, I hope I'm wrong though, I'd much rather it to be Phyrexia vs Weatherlight or something
Wild Speculation but maybe one will be colorless matters. That seems like something that would be tricky to do normally, but I could see it being done for a deck.
Could be, but we also have to remember the zendikar rising commander decks, that might be a theme in those decks
The only way the eldrazi Titans would be a deck if zendikar rising is if the decks don’t involve the present time line and actually being anytimeline (past). plus can you tone down eldrazis to beginner deck level?
Also the 3 legends of the other deck would have to be ugin/sorin/nahiri and that color balance doesn’t fit your stuck with mardu it can’t be 5 color because nahiri and sorin don't know GU and never will And mardu was just done in C20
Wild guess here but I think the 2 commander decks that will release with Commander Legends will be Cats vs Dogs, 3 legends each, I hope I'm wrong though, I'd much rather it to be Phyrexia vs Weatherlight or something
Wild Speculation but maybe one will be colorless matters. That seems like something that would be tricky to do normally, but I could see it being done for a deck.
Could be, but we also have to remember the zendikar rising commander decks, that might be a theme in those decks
The only way the eldrazi Titans would be a deck if zendikar rising is if the decks don’t involve the present time line and actually being anytimeline (past). plus can you tone down eldrazis to beginner deck level?
Also the 3 legends of the other deck would have to be ugin/sorin/nahiri and that color balance doesn’t fit your stuck with mardu it can’t be 5 color because nahiri and sorin don't know GU and never will And mardu was just done in C20
Commander decks can be set in any timeline, so surely they would be an option, they would have to be average cards though because as you said it's a beginner entry and 10$ cheaper than regular commander decks
The question is because the the C20 decks are from Ikoria and I think all 5 were near you the same timeline the mardu deck was clearly after the Lukka attacked the human compound
For the eldrazi deck today would they have the courage of putting in at least 1 or more annhilator eldrazis reprints in the deck besides artisan of kozilek Even though storm scale doesn’t apply they consider annihilator the second biggest Mechanic that should have never existed
anyway if any timeline applies how about omnath vs eldrazi (5-color vs colorless)
So some cards revealed soon.. hmm.. updated wishlist with my guess in bold :
(76 new legends for set & decks : probably 50% old characters is 38 legends)
[Dominaria][Antiquities War][63 AR] Ashnod, Mishra’s Apprentice
Harbin
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Kayla bin-Kroog Mishra, Argivian Artificer (Version 2)
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dominaria][Dark Age][64 AR - 450 AR]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Maeveen O'Donagh
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach, the Dark One
Vervamon, the Elder
[Dominaria][Ice Age][450 AR - 2934 AR]
Avram Garrison
Gerda Äagesdotter
Gustha Ebbasdotter
Hurn of Clan Pearl
Jason Carthalion
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker)
Miko, King of Storgard
[Dominaria][Legends][3000 AR - 4150 AR]
Adira Strongheart Hazezon, Governor of Bryce (Version 2) Jedit Ojanen, Tiger Warrior (Version 2) Johan, Tyrant of Tirras (Version 2)
Jorgan Hage, Ærathi Berserker
Kolo Meha, Bogarden Seismicmage Marhault, General of the Kentsu (Version 2) Ramses, Imperial Regent (Version 2) Tetsuo, Imperial Champion (Version 2)
[Dominaria][Planeswalker War][4195 AR]
Adam Carthalion
Altair of Coloni, White Mage (Planeswalker)
Caliphear, the Nightmare
Dakkon, Shadow Slayer (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Embereck, Ash Warlord (Planeswalker)
Faralyn of the Shard (Planeswalker)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Greensleeves, Archdruid (Planeswalker)
Grenfell Mor of Golthonor (Planeswalker)
Gull, Woodcutter Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage (Planeswalker)
Liana of Minorad (Planeswalker)
Piru, Elder Dragon
Ravidel, the Battlemage (Planeswalker)
Sandruu (Planeswalker)
Valthus, Segovian Leviathan
[Dominaria][Nine Titans][4205 AR]
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker) Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker) Taysir of Rabiah (Planeswalker)
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (Planeswalker)
Urza, Academy Master (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
[Dominaria]
Afari, Jamuraan Writer Agnate and Thaddeus
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Astor the Upstart
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Dwarf) Gaea, Dominaria’s Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Elemental)
Gatha, Keld Researcher
Grizzlegom, Hurloon Minotaur Jeska Ascended (Planeswalker) (Version 3) Kamahl, Heart of Krosa (Version 3) Karona, Dominaria’s Avatar (Version 2)
Kreig, Witch King of Keld
Lady Ana Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg Necromancer Orim, Weatherlight Healer (Version 2)
Skellum, Dementia Master
Tymolin Loneglade
Unnamed demonic leviathan (Planeswalker)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
Zagorka and Chester
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Amonkhet]
Nakht, Acolyte of Tah-Crop
[Eldraine]
Corliss the Wanderer
Marawen, Barrow Witch
Princess Hazel Kenrith
Syr Alora, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Bragi, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Branigan, knight of Ardenvale
Syr Grenphir, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Layne, knight of Embereth
Syr Roki, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale
[Innistrad] Alena, Trapper of Kessig Halana, Kessig Ranger Runo Stromkirk Unnamed fourth angel sister
Vronos, the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Aclazotz, Bat God of the Night
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama, the Crested
Ixalli, the Verdant Sun
Kinjalli, the Wakening Sun
Queen Miralda, the Pious
Tilonalli, the Burning Sun
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa] O-Kagachi, the Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Snow-Fur, Kitsune Poet
Urami (Token)
[Lorwyn-Shadowmoor] Colfenor, the Last Yew Illulia of Nighthearth
[Mercadia]
The Magistrate
[Mirrodin]
Kaldra (Token)
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane Malcator, Executor of Synthesis
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Abcal-dro, the Overseer
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of Phyrexia Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
Kirril, Phyrexian Priest
Sitrik, Birth Priest Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Horror) (Version 2)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Araithia Shokta
Azor, Parun (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Bori Andon Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Shandalar]
Bani Bakur of Ardestan
Kenan Sahrmal (Planeswalker)
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Theros]
Agnomakhos, Archon Tyrant Cacophony, God of Cities Perisophia, the Philosopher
Unnamed third Titan
Unnamed fourth Titan
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Raven Man (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
Unnamed creator of Phyrexia (Planeswalker)
Kamigawa and Theros have significantly more interesting characters.
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
Kamigawa and Theros have significantly more interesting characters.
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
Watch as they ditch all of those and introduce 2-3 random characters from Theros and Kamigawa with 0 background
So some cards revealed soon.. hmm.. updated wishlist with my guess in bold :
(76 new legends for set & decks : probably 50% old characters is 38 legends)
[Dominaria][Antiquities War][63 AR] Ashnod, Mishra’s Apprentice
Harbin
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Kayla bin-Kroog Mishra, Argivian Artificer (Version 2)
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dominaria][Dark Age][64 AR - 450 AR]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Maeveen O'Donagh
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach, the Dark One
Vervamon, the Elder
[Dominaria][Ice Age][450 AR - 2934 AR]
Avram Garrison
Gerda Äagesdotter
Gustha Ebbasdotter
Hurn of Clan Pearl
Jason Carthalion
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker)
Miko, King of Storgard
[Dominaria][Legends][3000 AR - 4150 AR]
Adira Strongheart Hazezon, Governor of Bryce (Version 2) Jedit Ojanen, Tiger Warrior (Version 2) Johan, Tyrant of Tirras (Version 2)
Jorgan Hage, Ærathi Berserker
Kolo Meha, Bogarden Seismicmage Marhault, General of the Kentsu (Version 2) Ramses, Imperial Regent (Version 2) Tetsuo, Imperial Champion (Version 2)
[Dominaria][Planeswalker War][4195 AR]
Adam Carthalion
Altair of Coloni, White Mage (Planeswalker)
Caliphear, the Nightmare
Dakkon, Shadow Slayer (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Embereck, Ash Warlord (Planeswalker)
Faralyn of the Shard (Planeswalker)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Greensleeves, Archdruid (Planeswalker)
Grenfell Mor of Golthonor (Planeswalker)
Gull, Woodcutter Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage (Planeswalker)
Liana of Minorad (Planeswalker)
Piru, Elder Dragon
Ravidel, the Battlemage (Planeswalker)
Sandruu (Planeswalker)
Valthus, Segovian Leviathan
[Dominaria][Nine Titans][4205 AR]
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker) Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker) Taysir of Rabiah (Planeswalker)
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (Planeswalker)
Urza, Academy Master (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
[Dominaria]
Afari, Jamuraan Writer Agnate and Thaddeus
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Astor the Upstart
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Dwarf) Gaea, Dominaria’s Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Elemental)
Gatha, Keld Researcher
Grizzlegom, Hurloon Minotaur Jeska Ascended (Planeswalker) (Version 3) Kamahl, Heart of Krosa (Version 3) Karona, Dominaria’s Avatar (Version 2)
Kreig, Witch King of Keld
Lady Ana Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg Necromancer Orim, Weatherlight Healer (Version 2)
Skellum, Dementia Master
Tymolin Loneglade
Unnamed demonic leviathan (Planeswalker)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
Zagorka and Chester
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Amonkhet]
Nakht, Acolyte of Tah-Crop
[Eldraine]
Corliss the Wanderer
Marawen, Barrow Witch
Princess Hazel Kenrith
Syr Alora, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Bragi, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Branigan, knight of Ardenvale
Syr Grenphir, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Layne, knight of Embereth
Syr Roki, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale
[Innistrad] Alena, Trapper of Kessig Halana, Kessig Ranger Runo Stromkirk Unnamed fourth angel sister
Vronos, the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Aclazotz, Bat God of the Night
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama, the Crested
Ixalli, the Verdant Sun
Kinjalli, the Wakening Sun
Queen Miralda, the Pious
Tilonalli, the Burning Sun
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa] O-Kagachi, the Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Snow-Fur, Kitsune Poet
Urami (Token)
[Lorwyn-Shadowmoor] Colfenor, the Last Yew Illulia of Nighthearth
[Mercadia]
The Magistrate
[Mirrodin]
Kaldra (Token)
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane Malcator, Executor of Synthesis
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Abcal-dro, the Overseer
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of Phyrexia Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
Kirril, Phyrexian Priest
Sitrik, Birth Priest Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Horror) (Version 2)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Araithia Shokta
Azor, Parun (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Bori Andon Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Shandalar]
Bani Bakur of Ardestan
Kenan Sahrmal (Planeswalker)
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Theros]
Agnomakhos, Archon Tyrant Cacophony, God of Cities Perisophia, the Philosopher
Unnamed third Titan
Unnamed fourth Titan
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Raven Man (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
Unnamed creator of Phyrexia (Planeswalker)
I think Gavin said that only 30% of those 70 plus legendaries were new characters, someone correct me if I'm wrong though
So some cards revealed soon.. hmm.. updated wishlist with my guess in bold :
(76 new legends for set & decks : probably 50% old characters is 38 legends)
[Dominaria][Antiquities War][63 AR] Ashnod, Mishra’s Apprentice
Harbin
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Kayla bin-Kroog Mishra, Argivian Artificer (Version 2)
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dominaria][Dark Age][64 AR - 450 AR]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Maeveen O'Donagh
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach, the Dark One
Vervamon, the Elder
[Dominaria][Ice Age][450 AR - 2934 AR]
Avram Garrison
Gerda Äagesdotter
Gustha Ebbasdotter
Hurn of Clan Pearl
Jason Carthalion
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker)
Miko, King of Storgard
[Dominaria][Legends][3000 AR - 4150 AR]
Adira Strongheart Hazezon, Governor of Bryce (Version 2) Jedit Ojanen, Tiger Warrior (Version 2) Johan, Tyrant of Tirras (Version 2)
Jorgan Hage, Ærathi Berserker
Kolo Meha, Bogarden Seismicmage Marhault, General of the Kentsu (Version 2) Ramses, Imperial Regent (Version 2) Tetsuo, Imperial Champion (Version 2)
[Dominaria][Planeswalker War][4195 AR]
Adam Carthalion
Altair of Coloni, White Mage (Planeswalker)
Caliphear, the Nightmare
Dakkon, Shadow Slayer (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Embereck, Ash Warlord (Planeswalker)
Faralyn of the Shard (Planeswalker)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Greensleeves, Archdruid (Planeswalker)
Grenfell Mor of Golthonor (Planeswalker)
Gull, Woodcutter Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage (Planeswalker)
Liana of Minorad (Planeswalker)
Piru, Elder Dragon
Ravidel, the Battlemage (Planeswalker)
Sandruu (Planeswalker)
Valthus, Segovian Leviathan
[Dominaria][Nine Titans][4205 AR]
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker) Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker) Taysir of Rabiah (Planeswalker)
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (Planeswalker)
Urza, Academy Master (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
[Dominaria]
Afari, Jamuraan Writer Agnate and Thaddeus
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Astor the Upstart
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Dwarf) Gaea, Dominaria’s Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Elemental)
Gatha, Keld Researcher
Grizzlegom, Hurloon Minotaur Jeska Ascended (Planeswalker) (Version 3) Kamahl, Heart of Krosa (Version 3) Karona, Dominaria’s Avatar (Version 2)
Kreig, Witch King of Keld
Lady Ana Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg Necromancer Orim, Weatherlight Healer (Version 2)
Skellum, Dementia Master
Tymolin Loneglade
Unnamed demonic leviathan (Planeswalker)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
Zagorka and Chester
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Amonkhet]
Nakht, Acolyte of Tah-Crop
[Eldraine]
Corliss the Wanderer
Marawen, Barrow Witch
Princess Hazel Kenrith
Syr Alora, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Bragi, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Branigan, knight of Ardenvale
Syr Grenphir, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Layne, knight of Embereth
Syr Roki, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale
[Innistrad] Alena, Trapper of Kessig Halana, Kessig Ranger Runo Stromkirk Unnamed fourth angel sister
Vronos, the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Aclazotz, Bat God of the Night
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama, the Crested
Ixalli, the Verdant Sun
Kinjalli, the Wakening Sun
Queen Miralda, the Pious
Tilonalli, the Burning Sun
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa] O-Kagachi, the Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Snow-Fur, Kitsune Poet
Urami (Token)
[Lorwyn-Shadowmoor] Colfenor, the Last Yew Illulia of Nighthearth
[Mercadia]
The Magistrate
[Mirrodin]
Kaldra (Token)
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane Malcator, Executor of Synthesis
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Abcal-dro, the Overseer
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of Phyrexia Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
Kirril, Phyrexian Priest
Sitrik, Birth Priest Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Horror) (Version 2)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Araithia Shokta
Azor, Parun (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Bori Andon Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Shandalar]
Bani Bakur of Ardestan
Kenan Sahrmal (Planeswalker)
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Theros]
Agnomakhos, Archon Tyrant Cacophony, God of Cities Perisophia, the Philosopher
Unnamed third Titan
Unnamed fourth Titan
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Raven Man (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
Unnamed creator of Phyrexia (Planeswalker)
I agree with a lot of those I’m surprised you don’t have braids on your list at all
The OG Baron Sengir worked with counters so I'm gonna predict the new one will put some kind of counter on target creatures that does something like "whenever a creature with a "baron sengir" counter dies put a 1+1 counter on baron sengir and create a 1/1 bat or vampire or something"
Also tap it to regenarate a vampire for a cute throwback
Kamigawa and Theros have significantly more interesting characters.
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
Watch as they ditch all of those and introduce 2-3 random characters from Theros and Kamigawa with 0 background
Agonizing, and expected.
Ah well. At the very least here's to hoping there's Theros and Kamigawa legends here in some capacity I suppose...
I'm not a fan of really old lore like Urza, Dominaria, etc. so I have a bad feeling this set will focus on some really old lore that won't interest me personally as much.
Kamigawa and Theros have significantly more interesting characters.
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
Watch as they ditch all of those and introduce 2-3 random characters from Theros and Kamigawa with 0 background
Agonizing, and expected.
Ah well. At the very least here's to hoping there's Theros and Kamigawa legends here in some capacity I suppose...
I'm not a fan of really old lore like Urza, Dominaria, etc. so I have a bad feeling this set will focus on some really old lore that won't interest me personally as much.
I think most of the legends will be from Legends(set) to the Onslaught block, however I wouldn't be surprised to see some few legends from Ixalan,Theros,Amonkhet,Kaladesh etc, I won't expect anything from Ikoria,Eldraine and Zendikar for obvious reasons
Kamigawa and Theros have significantly more interesting characters.
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
Watch as they ditch all of those and introduce 2-3 random characters from Theros and Kamigawa with 0 background
Agonizing, and expected.
Ah well. At the very least here's to hoping there's Theros and Kamigawa legends here in some capacity I suppose...
I'm not a fan of really old lore like Urza, Dominaria, etc. so I have a bad feeling this set will focus on some really old lore that won't interest me personally as much.
I think most of the legends will be from Legends(set) to the Onslaught block, however I wouldn't be surprised to see some few legends from Ixalan,Theros,Amonkhet,Kaladesh etc, I won't expect anything from Ikoria,Eldraine and Zendikar for obvious reasons
at the very least O-kagachi 2.0 is probably happening
spirit tribal was highly considered for the 5-color deck in Commander 2017 (Tribal) along with elementals and slivers (ps part of the reason why we’re probably getting omnath with 5-color in one of The zendikar decks) but dragons just beat all of them due to popularity
We looked at several potential five-color decks. Elementals was one we looked at, since there are in all five colors. Slivers was a popular option, but turned out to be nightmarish if two people bought the same deck and ended up in a game against each other. Spirits was a consideration as well. (And ultimately, we made one of our five-color Dragon Commanders also a Spirit to help you build that deck if you wanted.)
But really, nothing beat the raw appeal of Dragons. Dragon is arguably the most popular creature type in all of Magic. Everybody loved it—plus it meant we could put a bunch of sweet Dragons in one deck.
And base on O-kagachi getting a card spirits was probably second place in the choices
and now that I learn that it was a 6 year development on commander legends maybe it was “hey let’s save the spirit tribal legend for commander legends”
The sad part about today's stream is the fact that we won't get anything from commander legends til mid-ish October, I really hope they show us some more artwork for the legendaries that are in the set
Disappointed, yikes no 4 colored legends, no 5 colored legends, plus Alena and Halana looks almost like Kithkin, even Baron Sengir himself, it looks so painfully average,pretty much useless in 1v1 commander, also 41 monocoloured creatures with partner, why just why I also bet at least a third will be draft shaft.
That pretty much kills the idea of a new O'kagachi,Taysir etc, and since the commander legend decks are meant for begginers they are most likely 2 colored at best
Disappointed, yikes no 4 colored legends, no 5 colored legends, plus Alena and Halana looks almost like Kithkin, even Baron Sengir himself, it looks so painfully average,pretty much useless in 1v1 commander, also 41 monocoloured creatures with partner, why just why I also bet at least a third will be draft shaft.
That pretty much kills the idea of a new O'kagachi,Taysir etc, and since the commander legend decks are meant for begginers they are most likely 2 colored at best
people are asking if 4-5 color legends are in commander legends to check for clarifcation
Disappointed, yikes no 4 colored legends, no 5 colored legends, plus Alena and Halana looks almost like Kithkin, even Baron Sengir himself, it looks so painfully average,pretty much useless in 1v1 commander, also 41 monocoloured creatures with partner, why just why I also bet at least a third will be draft shaft.
That pretty much kills the idea of a new O'kagachi,Taysir etc, and since the commander legend decks are meant for begginers they are most likely 2 colored at best
people are asking if 4-5 color legends are in commander legends to check for clarifcation
They said 41 creatures are mono colored partner with
and 20 were double or triple colored
There's 71 new legends, that pretty much confirms there are no 4/5 colored legends
Disappointed, yikes no 4 colored legends, no 5 colored legends, plus Alena and Halana looks almost like Kithkin, even Baron Sengir himself, it looks so painfully average,pretty much useless in 1v1 commander, also 41 monocoloured creatures with partner, why just why I also bet at least a third will be draft shaft.
That pretty much kills the idea of a new O'kagachi,Taysir etc, and since the commander legend decks are meant for begginers they are most likely 2 colored at best
people are asking if 4-5 color legends are in commander legends to check for clarifcation
They said 41 creatures are mono colored partner with
and 20 were double or triple colored
There are 71 new legends, that pretty much confirms there are no 4/5 colored legends
well im almost certain one of the commander decks will be 5-color obviously
but good news I think Zendikar rising is handling new 4 color legends
and 1540 combinations of a partner who know what will be here now I know six is here as a mono-black legend but him with a partner? that sounds ridiculous heck the story said he revolted against yawgmoth and you might want to get worried about phyrexian yawgmoth as well he might end up the same fate as O-kagachi being underpowered
ps here’s one colorless partners will happen and might be are eldrazi titans
edit: hang on a minute how do we know none of the 31 2 or 3 color legends don’t have a loophole like this
The only way the eldrazi Titans would be a deck if zendikar rising is if the decks don’t involve the present time line and actually being anytimeline (past). plus can you tone down eldrazis to beginner deck level?
Also the 3 legends of the other deck would have to be ugin/sorin/nahiri and that color balance doesn’t fit your stuck with mardu it can’t be 5 color because nahiri and sorin don't know GU and never will And mardu was just done in C20
Commander decks can be set in any timeline, so surely they would be an option, they would have to be average cards though because as you said it's a beginner entry and 10$ cheaper than regular commander decks
For the eldrazi deck today would they have the courage of putting in at least 1 or more annhilator eldrazis reprints in the deck besides artisan of kozilek Even though storm scale doesn’t apply they consider annihilator the second biggest Mechanic that should have never existed
anyway if any timeline applies how about omnath vs eldrazi (5-color vs colorless)
(76 new legends for set & decks : probably 50% old characters is 38 legends)
[Dominaria][Thran Civil War][-4795 AR]
Dyfed, Mistress of Portals (Planeswalker)
Glacian, Thran Artificer
Rebbec, Thran Architect
Xod, Thran Healer
[Dominaria][Antiquities War][63 AR]
Ashnod, Mishra’s Apprentice
Harbin
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Kayla bin-Kroog
Mishra, Argivian Artificer (Version 2)
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dominaria][Dark Age][64 AR - 450 AR]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Maeveen O'Donagh
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach, the Dark One
Vervamon, the Elder
[Dominaria][Ice Age][450 AR - 2934 AR]
Avram Garrison
Gerda Äagesdotter
Gustha Ebbasdotter
Hurn of Clan Pearl
Jason Carthalion
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker)
Miko, King of Storgard
[Dominaria][Legends][3000 AR - 4150 AR]
Adira Strongheart
Hazezon, Governor of Bryce (Version 2)
Jedit Ojanen, Tiger Warrior (Version 2)
Johan, Tyrant of Tirras (Version 2)
Jorgan Hage, Ærathi Berserker
Kolo Meha, Bogarden Seismicmage
Marhault, General of the Kentsu (Version 2)
Ramses, Imperial Regent (Version 2)
Tetsuo, Imperial Champion (Version 2)
[Dominaria][Planeswalker War][4195 AR]
Adam Carthalion
Altair of Coloni, White Mage (Planeswalker)
Caliphear, the Nightmare
Dakkon, Shadow Slayer (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Embereck, Ash Warlord (Planeswalker)
Faralyn of the Shard (Planeswalker)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Greensleeves, Archdruid (Planeswalker)
Grenfell Mor of Golthonor (Planeswalker)
Gull, Woodcutter
Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage (Planeswalker)
Liana of Minorad (Planeswalker)
Piru, Elder Dragon
Ravidel, the Battlemage (Planeswalker)
Sandruu (Planeswalker)
Valthus, Segovian Leviathan
[Dominaria][Nine Titans][4205 AR]
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker)
Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker)
Taysir of Rabiah (Planeswalker)
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (Planeswalker)
Urza, Academy Master (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
[Dominaria]
Afari, Jamuraan Writer
Agnate and Thaddeus
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Astor the Upstart
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Dwarf)
Gaea, Dominaria’s Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Elemental)
Gatha, Keld Researcher
Grizzlegom, Hurloon Minotaur
Jeska Ascended (Planeswalker) (Version 3)
Kamahl, Heart of Krosa (Version 3)
Karona, Dominaria’s Avatar (Version 2)
Kreig, Witch King of Keld
Lady Ana
Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg Necromancer
Orim, Weatherlight Healer (Version 2)
Skellum, Dementia Master
Tymolin Loneglade
Unnamed demonic leviathan (Planeswalker)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
Zagorka and Chester
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero
Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Amonkhet]
Nakht, Acolyte of Tah-Crop
[Eldraine]
Corliss the Wanderer
Marawen, Barrow Witch
Princess Hazel Kenrith
Syr Alora, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Bragi, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Branigan, knight of Ardenvale
Syr Grenphir, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Layne, knight of Embereth
Syr Roki, knight of Garenbrig
Syr Tasdale, knight of Ardenvale
[Innistrad]
Alena, Trapper of Kessig
Halana, Kessig Ranger
Runo Stromkirk
Unnamed fourth angel sister
Vronos, the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Aclazotz, Bat God of the Night
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama, the Crested
Ixalli, the Verdant Sun
Kinjalli, the Wakening Sun
Queen Miralda, the Pious
Tilonalli, the Burning Sun
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa]
O-Kagachi, the Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Snow-Fur, Kitsune Poet
Urami (Token)
[Lorwyn-Shadowmoor]
Colfenor, the Last Yew
Illulia of Nighthearth
[Mercadia]
The Magistrate
[Mirrodin]
Kaldra (Token)
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane
Malcator, Executor of Synthesis
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Abcal-dro, the Overseer
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of Phyrexia
Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
Kirril, Phyrexian Priest
Sitrik, Birth Priest
Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Horror) (Version 2)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar
Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Araithia Shokta
Azor, Parun (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Bori Andon
Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster
Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Shandalar]
Bani Bakur of Ardestan
Kenan Sahrmal (Planeswalker)
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Theros]
Agnomakhos, Archon Tyrant
Cacophony, God of Cities
Perisophia, the Philosopher
Unnamed third Titan
Unnamed fourth Titan
[Ulgrotha]
Feroz, Ulgrotha’s Protector (Planeswalker)
Ravi, Grandmother Sengir (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
Sengir, Dark Baron (Version 2)
[Zendikar]
Numa, Joraga Chieftain
Turi
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Raven Man (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
Unnamed creator of Phyrexia (Planeswalker)
Kamigawa:
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lady Pearl-Ear
Choryu
Riko
Boss Uramon
All Consuming Oni of Chaos
Kobo
Chiyo
Sharp-Ear
Aoyama, Keeper of Moths
New O-Kagachi
Theros
I'd love individual cards for Tiro and Kynaios
Pavios (Emonberry Red)
Thanasis (Emonberry Red)
Nykthos, Divine Artisan
Petros
Thraxes
Theophilia
Agnomakhos
Persophia
Kenessos, Priest of Thassa
I'd love legendary lands for the Dekatia Academy and Olantin as well. Why don't Commander products ever have new legendary lands? It's literally the place for it. Get innovative!
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
1. Glacian, Thran Artificer
2. Rebbec, Thran Architect
3. Ashnod, Mishra’s Apprentice
4. Mishra, Argivian Artificer
5. Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker)
6. Ramses, Imperial Regent (Version 2)
7. Tetsuo, Imperial Champion (Version 2)
8. Piru, Elder Dragon
9. Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
10. Taysir of Rabiah (Planeswalker)
11. Urza, Academy Master (Planeswalker) (Version 2)
12. Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
13. Jeska Ascended (Planeswalker) (Version 3)
14. Kamahl, Heart of Krosa (Version 3)
15. Karona, Dominaria’s Avatar (Version 2
16. Orim, Weatherlight Healer (Version 2)
17. Alena, Trapper of Kessig
18. Halana, Kessig Ranger
19. Runo Stromkirk
20. Unnamed fourth angel sister
21. O-Kagachi, the Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
22. Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
23. Gix, Yawgmoth Praetor
24. Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - Horror) (Version 2)
25. Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
26. Sengir, Dark Baron (Version 2)
Watch as they ditch all of those and introduce 2-3 random characters from Theros and Kamigawa with 0 background
I think Gavin said that only 30% of those 70 plus legendaries were new characters, someone correct me if I'm wrong though
I agree with a lot of those I’m surprised you don’t have braids on your list at all
whaa...
wheres the source?
https://twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/1296659300018843648
Here you go sir, he also just released a new video talking about a card we will see tomorrow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgGJ739Ubs&feature=youtu.be
Looking forward to seeing what baron does for all those vampire fans
So that’s one of them what other cards could we see besides the other 3 known arts
Also tap it to regenarate a vampire for a cute throwback
It would be hilarious if it were exactly like Baron Sengir,
except it got two +1/+1 counters instead of one +2/+2 counter
Ah well. At the very least here's to hoping there's Theros and Kamigawa legends here in some capacity I suppose...
I'm not a fan of really old lore like Urza, Dominaria, etc. so I have a bad feeling this set will focus on some really old lore that won't interest me personally as much.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
I think most of the legends will be from Legends(set) to the Onslaught block, however I wouldn't be surprised to see some few legends from Ixalan,Theros,Amonkhet,Kaladesh etc, I won't expect anything from Ikoria,Eldraine and Zendikar for obvious reasons
at the very least O-kagachi 2.0 is probably happening
spirit tribal was highly considered for the 5-color deck in Commander 2017 (Tribal) along with elementals and slivers (ps part of the reason why we’re probably getting omnath with 5-color in one of The zendikar decks) but dragons just beat all of them due to popularity
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/dragons-dragons-and-cat-dragons-2017-08-08
And base on O-kagachi getting a card spirits was probably second place in the choices
and now that I learn that it was a 6 year development on commander legends maybe it was “hey let’s save the spirit tribal legend for commander legends”
That pretty much kills the idea of a new O'kagachi,Taysir etc, and since the commander legend decks are meant for begginers they are most likely 2 colored at best
people are asking if 4-5 color legends are in commander legends to check for clarifcation
They said 41 creatures are mono colored partner with
and 20 were double or triple colored
There's 71 new legends, that pretty much confirms there are no 4/5 colored legends
well im almost certain one of the commander decks will be 5-color obviously
but good news I think Zendikar rising is handling new 4 color legends
and 1540 combinations of a partner who know what will be here now I know six is here as a mono-black legend but him with a partner? that sounds ridiculous heck the story said he revolted against yawgmoth and you might want to get worried about phyrexian yawgmoth as well he might end up the same fate as O-kagachi being underpowered
ps here’s one colorless partners will happen and might be are eldrazi titans
edit: hang on a minute how do we know none of the 31 2 or 3 color legends don’t have a loophole like this