Actually he’s very very likely since his role of the mtg story is enormous he’s the first one to defeat Nicol Bolas (liliana and Gideon sacrificing himself are both second.)
Thanks for the info, would prefer to be 70% new legendaries without a card and 30% 2.0, anyways this has potential because we might get 2.0's from other points in time like pre-spark Ugin and so on.
Me personally, I just want more Phyrexians.. was a bit disappointed when I found out that in 2020 we wouldn't be going to New Phyrexia
Actually he’s very very likely since his role of the mtg story is enormous he’s the first one to defeat Nicol Bolas (liliana and Gideon sacrificing himself are both second.)
Thanks for the info, would prefer to be 70% new legendaries without a card and 30% 2.0, anyways this has potential because we might get 2.0's from other points in time like pre-spark Ugin and so on.
Me personally, I just want more Phyrexians.. was a bit disappointed when I found out that in 2020 we wouldn't be going to New Phyrexia
I assure you we will be going back eventually
And trust me I wouldn’t be shock we got almost the rest of the most famous of the phyrexians
Heck we may end up with the post phyrexia yawgmoth
I'm curious as to how they're going to make this set work. With drafting, and all. It's exciting!
20 cards per booster will help, and basic lands will make up for like 40%/50% of the draft commander decks, hopefully they won't fool us into playing brawl
I'm curious as to how they're going to make this set work. With drafting, and all. It's exciting!
20 cards per booster will help, and basic lands will make up for like 40%/50% of the draft commander decks, hopefully they won't fool us into playing brawl
Honestly, I think that this will almost have to be brawl...ish.
With the normal 3-pack draft and 20 cards per pack, everyone will end up with 60 cards... which would really suck if we had to build a 100 card commander deck. Asking us to build a deck with ~36 of those 60 cards is quite reasonable, however, just a little worse (proportionally speaking) than asking someone to choose 22-23 cards out of a 45 card pool in a normal draft.
Between 60 card decks and a very high probability that all of the walkers will be usable as commanders... and a decent chance that life totals will be lowered for "limited commander" to ensure time for multiple rounds... this should play out very much like brawl. No real way to formally add the cards into the brawl format, however, as that would make this entire set standard playable. I wouldn't really mind that, really, but I'm the sort of guy who likes to watch the world burn.
My biggest question, actually, is how card limitations will be handled. Unlike normal drafts, any off-color cards or duplicates end up as totally useless feel-bad picks with no real option to splash an off-color trick game 2. While this ensures that a single player doesn't end up with every copy of a cool new card that's circulating in the pod... and while nearly every draft includes unexciting dead picks... removing the option to play some of those late picks may rub people the wrong way unless the limitations are lifted somehow for limited. Kind of interested in seeing if wizards does anything to collate commons/uncommons to reduce the odds of excessive duplicates floating around.
Also, putting in a bet right now that there aren't any truly colorless legends in this set (because people would want to use it as a commander in draft... which causes TONS of problems).
Never had a card -
- 4th Sister of the Innistrad Archangels
- Asha, the ruler of Bant
- Atraxa before becoming Atraxa
- ... A 5 color identity angel so I can use Maelstrom Archangel in an angel tribal deck...
Had a card, but really need a new version -
- Gabriel Angelfire
- Selenia, Dark Angel
- Radiant, Archangel
Really hoping we will get at least 1 of those.
This. Radiant could have some nice Angel tribal effects.
I would add a new Iona card, Trine before or after becoming the Fallen Angel (as legendary creature) or Rahel the angel who was summoned to fight Trine.
I'm curious as to how they're going to make this set work. With drafting, and all. It's exciting!
20 cards per booster will help, and basic lands will make up for like 40%/50% of the draft commander decks, hopefully they won't fool us into playing brawl
Honestly, I think that this will almost have to be brawl...ish.
With the normal 3-pack draft and 20 cards per pack, everyone will end up with 60 cards... which would really suck if we had to build a 100 card commander deck. Asking us to build a deck with ~36 of those 60 cards is quite reasonable, however, just a little worse (proportionally speaking) than asking someone to choose 22-23 cards out of a 45 card pool in a normal draft.
Between 60 card decks and a very high probability that all of the walkers will be usable as commanders... and a decent chance that life totals will be lowered for "limited commander" to ensure time for multiple rounds... this should play out very much like brawl. No real way to formally add the cards into the brawl format, however, as that would make this entire set standard playable. I wouldn't really mind that, really, but I'm the sort of guy who likes to watch the world burn.
My biggest question, actually, is how card limitations will be handled. Unlike normal drafts, any off-color cards or duplicates end up as totally useless feel-bad picks with no real option to splash an off-color trick game 2. While this ensures that a single player doesn't end up with every copy of a cool new card that's circulating in the pod... and while nearly every draft includes unexciting dead picks... removing the option to play some of those late picks may rub people the wrong way unless the limitations are lifted somehow for limited. Kind of interested in seeing if wizards does anything to collate commons/uncommons to reduce the odds of excessive duplicates floating around.
Also, putting in a bet right now that there aren't any truly colorless legends in this set (because people would want to use it as a commander in draft... which causes TONS of problems).
Yeah I was thinking it almost has to be Brawl. Which I'm okay with. Playing full on commander would be a pain in the butt as far as time constraints and deck building go.
I expect a cycle of cards in each color that say "A deck may contain any number of ~ (this card)" to help with some building.
I also expect a pretty large pool of ramping cards, especially artifacts.
Since it is draft, I wonder if there will be some weird draft themed/sideboard type cards to add some new design space to the format.
I believe they meant that the draft stipulation would be to build a deck similar to a brawl deck since a 100 card commander deck would be pretty challenging to put together.
1.Baron Sengir
2.Jeska PW
3.Urza PW
4.Phyrexian Yawgmoth (prob the most "broken" card of the set
5.Gix
6.Crovax
7.Ertai-FLIP before and after phyrexian corruption
8.Starke il-Vec
9.Orim- Hopefully a good mono-white legendary
10.Hanna-
11.Rofellos
12.Gaea as a PW
13.Ashnod
14.Leshrac
15.Feroz
16.Glacian
17.Bo Levar
18.Daria
19.Kristina of the Woods
20.Guff
21.Taysir of Rabiah
22.Tevesh Szat
23.Dyfed
24.Mishra
25.Avacyn
26.Unnamed Innistradi Angel
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
1.Baron Sengir
2.Jeska PW
3.Urza PW
4.Phyrexian Yawgmoth (prob the most "broken" card of the set
5.Gix
6.Crovax
7.Ertai-FLIP before and after phyrexian corruption
8.Starke il-Vec
9.Orim- Hopefully a good mono-white legendary
10.Hanna-
11.Rofellos
12.Gaea as a PW
13.Ashnod
14.Leshrac
15.Feroz
16.Glacian
17.Bo Levar
18.Daria
19.Kristina of the Woods
20.Guff
21.Taysir of Rabiah
22.Tevesh Szat
23.Dyfed
24.Mishra
25.Avacyn
26.Unnamed Innistradi Angel
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
I can tell you it’s probably 60/40 based on what mark said lot of legends are ones who already ave a card and lots of legends that don’t have a card (known and unknown legends)
Anyway you missed Belbe and Croag and Tsabo Tavoc 2.0 of the phyrexians
Oh Spirit tribal is a highly requested thing and I know just the legend for it
Kyodai (O-kagachi’s daughter in a way) or sisters of the flesh and spirit (Kyodai and Michiko merged) https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Kyodai
The f that doesn’t work just a O-Kagachi before the theft of that which was taken
1.Baron Sengir
2.Jeska PW
3.Urza PW
4.Phyrexian Yawgmoth (prob the most "broken" card of the set
5.Gix
6.Crovax
7.Ertai-FLIP before and after phyrexian corruption
8.Starke il-Vec
9.Orim- Hopefully a good mono-white legendary
10.Hanna-
11.Rofellos
12.Gaea as a PW
13.Ashnod
14.Leshrac
15.Feroz
16.Glacian
17.Bo Levar
18.Daria
19.Kristina of the Woods
20.Guff
21.Taysir of Rabiah
22.Tevesh Szat
23.Dyfed
24.Mishra
25.Avacyn
26.Unnamed Innistradi Angel
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
I like this list, but you included a ton of PWs (Leshrac, Feroz, Bo Levar, Daria, Kristina, Taysir, Szat, Dyfed) and the set is only going to have 2 or 3 tops. Gaea wasn't a PW, and I'm not sure how they could represent her except maybe as a god type creature or perhaps even a legendary enchantment, but it would be cool to see.
1.Baron Sengir
2.Jeska PW
3.Urza PW
4.Phyrexian Yawgmoth (prob the most "broken" card of the set
5.Gix
6.Crovax
7.Ertai-FLIP before and after phyrexian corruption
8.Starke il-Vec
9.Orim- Hopefully a good mono-white legendary
10.Hanna-
11.Rofellos
12.Gaea as a PW
13.Ashnod
14.Leshrac
15.Feroz
16.Glacian
17.Bo Levar
18.Daria
19.Kristina of the Woods
20.Guff
21.Taysir of Rabiah
22.Tevesh Szat
23.Dyfed
24.Mishra
25.Avacyn
26.Unnamed Innistradi Angel
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
I like this list, but you included a ton of PWs (Leshrac, Feroz, Bo Levar, Daria, Kristina, Taysir, Szat, Dyfed) and the set is only going to have 2 or 3 tops. Gaea wasn't a PW, and I'm not sure how they could represent her except maybe as a god type creature or perhaps even a legendary enchantment, but it would be cool to see.
Could have sworn gaea was a PW in some point in time? "In prerevisionist continuity, she was just a green based planeswalker reverred as a goddess, in a similar fashion to Freyalise"
I would rather see gaea as a legendary enchantment too, I know they probably won't have that many PW in the set, but it would be cool, those I mencioned are pretty much the "major" PW's from oldlore without a card, Hopefully they don't make the mistake of including the curse guy instead of some of those
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
You are focusing a lot on dominaria, there are lot of character from other planes
A lot of Ravnican characters: Simic, CIsarzim, Svogthir, Myczil, Zomac Hauj, Pivlic, Azor PW, ghost Agrus Kos or ghost Szadek.
From Mirrodin there are some minor character like Bruenna or Malil. They can even try with Slobad planeswalker
Kamigawa has Kyodai/Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lorwyn has some characters too, most important Colfenor
Alara has Crucius as a possible pw
Innistrad has the fourth sister but also the siblings from Davriel's story
Ixalan has the Grim Captain, queen Miralda and emperor Apatzec. Also the merfolk rier heralds
Eldraine has the most important character of all, Syr Branigan. And "gingerbread lady".
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i'd love to see a gix and an ashnod. maybe a revisited orim since most of the weatherlight saga has been getting redos and she is just terrible.
i'd like to see more love for fallen empires, so a few throwback cards to that, maybe a reod dai, ailis connaut or a taurach. nods to homelands would be great too, there's a lot of speculation on a new baron sengir so that'd be neat.
titania would be great, since her price has slowly crept up and we could finally get a foil option
i'd like to see: sylvan library, oracle of mul daya, rhystic study, cyclonic rift, exploration, scroll rack, any of the tutors, and sensei's divining top all get reprints. we'll be lucky to get just 1 of those cards, but they all need it.
prismatic vista could easily get a reprint here, or a complete battlebond cycle of lands.
things i don't want to see: sol ring. seedborn muse. high market. lightning greaves.
give them a rest.
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
You are focusing a lot on dominaria, there are lot of character from other planes
A lot of Ravnican characters: Simic, CIsarzim, Svogthir, Myczil, Zomac Hauj, Pivlic, Azor PW, ghost Agrus Kos or ghost Szadek.
From Mirrodin there are some minor character like Bruenna or Malil. They can even try with Slobad planeswalker
Kamigawa has Kyodai/Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lorwyn has some characters too, most important Colfenor
Alara has Crucius as a possible pw
Innistrad has the fourth sister but also the siblings from Davriel's story
Ixalan has the Grim Captain, queen Miralda and emperor Apatzec. Also the merfolk rier heralds
Eldraine has the most important character of all, Syr Branigan. And "gingerbread lady".
Yeah, you are right, it's just that most characters from old-lore are from Dominaria, we can't forget ravnica too, we have been there recently but there are some paruns without a card- Svogthir,Cisarzim,Mat'Selesnya
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
You are focusing a lot on dominaria, there are lot of character from other planes
A lot of Ravnican characters: Simic, CIsarzim, Svogthir, Myczil, Zomac Hauj, Pivlic, Azor PW, ghost Agrus Kos or ghost Szadek.
From Mirrodin there are some minor character like Bruenna or Malil. They can even try with Slobad planeswalker
Kamigawa has Kyodai/Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lorwyn has some characters too, most important Colfenor
Alara has Crucius as a possible pw
Innistrad has the fourth sister but also the siblings from Davriel's story
Ixalan has the Grim Captain, queen Miralda and emperor Apatzec. Also the merfolk rier heralds
Eldraine has the most important character of all, Syr Branigan. And "gingerbread lady".
That and a few other phyrexians
Belbe
Croag (we would also need Davvol if he’s here)(and there’s a chance on Yawgmoth's Bargain the smaller person with the red feather might be him)
Sitrik ( might be depicted in Phyrexian monitor and No rest for the wicked)
A better Tsaboo
And all the Thanes of New Phyrexia (none of them have a card)
Never had a card -
- 4th Sister of the Innistrad Archangels
- Asha, the ruler of Bant
- Atraxa before becoming Atraxa
- ... A 5 color identity angel so I can use Maelstrom Archangel in an angel tribal deck...
Had a card, but really need a new version -
- Gabriel Angelfire
- Selenia, Dark Angel
- Radiant, Archangel
Really hoping we will get at least 1 of those.
Sorry, but you'll never get a new Selenia, Dark Angel (Long Live the Reserved List!)
However, with some luck hopefully we'll finally see some multi-colored praetors!
Never had a card -
- 4th Sister of the Innistrad Archangels
- Asha, the ruler of Bant
- Atraxa before becoming Atraxa
- ... A 5 color identity angel so I can use Maelstrom Archangel in an angel tribal deck...
Had a card, but really need a new version -
- Gabriel Angelfire
- Selenia, Dark Angel
- Radiant, Archangel
Really hoping we will get at least 1 of those.
Sorry, but you'll never get a new Selenia, Dark Angel (Long Live the Reserved List!)
However, with some luck hopefully we'll finally see some multi-colored praetors!
That’s reprint is what can’t happen he’s describing a 2.0 version that’s different from the reserved list version
Modern horizons ended the wait on horizon canopy actually getting a cycle
I think commander legends will do that again but difference is it’s Krosan Verge instead that’s probably the most request land to get a cycle from the commander players actually
I think commander legends will do that again but difference is it’s Krosan Verge instead that’s probably the most request land to get a cycle from the commander players actually
Honestly i'm hoping for enemy fetches
Hey, a man can dream!
Otherwise i think that the enemy tang lands or enemy battlebond lands are more likely than a verge cycle
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I think commander legends will do that again but difference is it’s Krosan Verge instead that’s probably the most request land to get a cycle from the commander players actually
Honestly i'm hoping for enemy fetches
Hey, a man can dream!
Otherwise i think that the enemy tang lands or enemy battlebond lands are more likely than a verge cycle
not the tango lands were going back to zendikar we might get those there
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero
Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Brothers' War]
Ashnod, Mishra's Apprentice
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Mishra, Argivian artificer
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dark Age]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach the Dark One
[Dominaria]
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker)
Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Dakkon Blackblade, Shadow Slayer (PlaneswalkerWUB)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodR)
Gaea, Dominaria's Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodG)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage
Jeska Ascended (PlaneswalkerWBR)
Karona, Dominaria's Avatar (Version 2)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker)
Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg's Necromancer
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (PlaneswalkerUB)
Urza, Academy Master (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
[Eldraine]
Syr Branigan, Knight of Ardenvale
[Ice Age]
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker B)
[Innistrad]
Alena, trapper of Kessig
Halana, Kessig ranger Unnamed WB Angel sister
Vronos the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama the Crested
Queen Miralda the Pious
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa]
O-Kagachi, The Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
[Lorwyn]
Colfenor, the Last Yew
[Mirrodin]
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Infinite Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of The Inner Circle
Gix, Phyrexian Demon
Sitrik, Birth Priest
Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodB)
[Rabiah]
Taysir of Rabiah (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar
Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Azor, Parun (PlaneswalkerWU)
Bori Andon
Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster
Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero
Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Brothers' War]
Ashnod, Mishra's Apprentice
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Mishra, Argivian artificer
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dark Age]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach the Dark One
[Dominaria]
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker)
Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Dakkon Blackblade, Shadow Slayer (PlaneswalkerWUB)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodR)
Gaea, Dominaria's Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodG)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage
Jeska Ascended (PlaneswalkerWBR)
Karona, Dominaria's Avatar (Version 2)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker)
Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg's Necromancer
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (PlaneswalkerUB)
Urza, Academy Master (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
[Eldraine]
Syr Branigan, Knight of Ardenvale
[Ice Age]
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker B)
[Innistrad]
Alena, trapper of Kessig
Halana, Kessig ranger Unnamed WB Angel sister
Vronos the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama the Crested
Queen Miralda the Pious
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa]
O-Kagachi, The Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
[Lorwyn]
Colfenor, the Last Yew
[Mirrodin]
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Infinite Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of The Inner Circle
Gix, Phyrexian Demon
Sitrik, Birth Priest
Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodB)
[Rabiah]
Taysir of Rabiah (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar
Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Azor, Parun (PlaneswalkerWU)
Bori Andon
Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster
Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
Thanks for the info, would prefer to be 70% new legendaries without a card and 30% 2.0, anyways this has potential because we might get 2.0's from other points in time like pre-spark Ugin and so on.
Me personally, I just want more Phyrexians.. was a bit disappointed when I found out that in 2020 we wouldn't be going to New Phyrexia
I assure you we will be going back eventually
And trust me I wouldn’t be shock we got almost the rest of the most famous of the phyrexians
Heck we may end up with the post phyrexia yawgmoth
20 cards per booster will help, and basic lands will make up for like 40%/50% of the draft commander decks, hopefully they won't fool us into playing brawl
Honestly, I think that this will almost have to be brawl...ish.
With the normal 3-pack draft and 20 cards per pack, everyone will end up with 60 cards... which would really suck if we had to build a 100 card commander deck. Asking us to build a deck with ~36 of those 60 cards is quite reasonable, however, just a little worse (proportionally speaking) than asking someone to choose 22-23 cards out of a 45 card pool in a normal draft.
Between 60 card decks and a very high probability that all of the walkers will be usable as commanders... and a decent chance that life totals will be lowered for "limited commander" to ensure time for multiple rounds... this should play out very much like brawl. No real way to formally add the cards into the brawl format, however, as that would make this entire set standard playable. I wouldn't really mind that, really, but I'm the sort of guy who likes to watch the world burn.
My biggest question, actually, is how card limitations will be handled. Unlike normal drafts, any off-color cards or duplicates end up as totally useless feel-bad picks with no real option to splash an off-color trick game 2. While this ensures that a single player doesn't end up with every copy of a cool new card that's circulating in the pod... and while nearly every draft includes unexciting dead picks... removing the option to play some of those late picks may rub people the wrong way unless the limitations are lifted somehow for limited. Kind of interested in seeing if wizards does anything to collate commons/uncommons to reduce the odds of excessive duplicates floating around.
Also, putting in a bet right now that there aren't any truly colorless legends in this set (because people would want to use it as a commander in draft... which causes TONS of problems).
This. Radiant could have some nice Angel tribal effects.
I would add a new Iona card, Trine before or after becoming the Fallen Angel (as legendary creature) or Rahel the angel who was summoned to fight Trine.
Yeah I was thinking it almost has to be Brawl. Which I'm okay with. Playing full on commander would be a pain in the butt as far as time constraints and deck building go.
I expect a cycle of cards in each color that say "A deck may contain any number of ~ (this card)" to help with some building.
I also expect a pretty large pool of ramping cards, especially artifacts.
Since it is draft, I wonder if there will be some weird draft themed/sideboard type cards to add some new design space to the format.
Dunes of Zairo
SHANDALAR
Innistrad - The Darkest Night
~THE RAVNICAN CONSORTIUM~
A Community Set
Commander: Allies & Adversaries
And it can’t be brawl because it’s not a standard legal set it’s legacy/vintage/commander
1.Baron Sengir
2.Jeska PW
3.Urza PW
4.Phyrexian Yawgmoth (prob the most "broken" card of the set
5.Gix
6.Crovax
7.Ertai-FLIP before and after phyrexian corruption
8.Starke il-Vec
9.Orim- Hopefully a good mono-white legendary
10.Hanna-
11.Rofellos
12.Gaea as a PW
13.Ashnod
14.Leshrac
15.Feroz
16.Glacian
17.Bo Levar
18.Daria
19.Kristina of the Woods
20.Guff
21.Taysir of Rabiah
22.Tevesh Szat
23.Dyfed
24.Mishra
25.Avacyn
26.Unnamed Innistradi Angel
It's hard even to think about 70 who else would you guys like to see?, just named these from the top of my head, this set has to cross most of those old "legends" that never got a card
I can tell you it’s probably 60/40 based on what mark said lot of legends are ones who already ave a card and lots of legends that don’t have a card (known and unknown legends)
Anyway you missed Belbe and Croag and Tsabo Tavoc 2.0 of the phyrexians
Oh Spirit tribal is a highly requested thing and I know just the legend for it
Kyodai (O-kagachi’s daughter in a way) or sisters of the flesh and spirit (Kyodai and Michiko merged)
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Kyodai
The f that doesn’t work just a O-Kagachi before the theft of that which was taken
I like this list, but you included a ton of PWs (Leshrac, Feroz, Bo Levar, Daria, Kristina, Taysir, Szat, Dyfed) and the set is only going to have 2 or 3 tops. Gaea wasn't a PW, and I'm not sure how they could represent her except maybe as a god type creature or perhaps even a legendary enchantment, but it would be cool to see.
Could have sworn gaea was a PW in some point in time? "In prerevisionist continuity, she was just a green based planeswalker reverred as a goddess, in a similar fashion to Freyalise"
I would rather see gaea as a legendary enchantment too, I know they probably won't have that many PW in the set, but it would be cool, those I mencioned are pretty much the "major" PW's from oldlore without a card, Hopefully they don't make the mistake of including the curse guy instead of some of those
You are focusing a lot on dominaria, there are lot of character from other planes
A lot of Ravnican characters: Simic, CIsarzim, Svogthir, Myczil, Zomac Hauj, Pivlic, Azor PW, ghost Agrus Kos or ghost Szadek.
From Mirrodin there are some minor character like Bruenna or Malil. They can even try with Slobad planeswalker
Kamigawa has Kyodai/Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
Lorwyn has some characters too, most important Colfenor
Alara has Crucius as a possible pw
Innistrad has the fourth sister but also the siblings from Davriel's story
Ixalan has the Grim Captain, queen Miralda and emperor Apatzec. Also the merfolk rier heralds
Eldraine has the most important character of all, Syr Branigan. And "gingerbread lady".
i'd like to see more love for fallen empires, so a few throwback cards to that, maybe a reod dai, ailis connaut or a taurach. nods to homelands would be great too, there's a lot of speculation on a new baron sengir so that'd be neat.
titania would be great, since her price has slowly crept up and we could finally get a foil option
i'd like to see: sylvan library, oracle of mul daya, rhystic study, cyclonic rift, exploration, scroll rack, any of the tutors, and sensei's divining top all get reprints. we'll be lucky to get just 1 of those cards, but they all need it.
prismatic vista could easily get a reprint here, or a complete battlebond cycle of lands.
things i don't want to see: sol ring. seedborn muse. high market. lightning greaves.
give them a rest.
Yeah, you are right, it's just that most characters from old-lore are from Dominaria, we can't forget ravnica too, we have been there recently but there are some paruns without a card- Svogthir,Cisarzim,Mat'Selesnya
That and a few other phyrexians
Belbe
Croag (we would also need Davvol if he’s here)(and there’s a chance on Yawgmoth's Bargain the smaller person with the red feather might be him)
Sitrik ( might be depicted in Phyrexian monitor and No rest for the wicked)
A better Tsaboo
And all the Thanes of New Phyrexia (none of them have a card)
Sorry, but you'll never get a new Selenia, Dark Angel (Long Live the Reserved List!)
However, with some luck hopefully we'll finally see some multi-colored praetors!
I used to be a demigod, but now I'm an omnimage
That’s reprint is what can’t happen he’s describing a 2.0 version that’s different from the reserved list version
Modern horizons ended the wait on horizon canopy actually getting a cycle
I think commander legends will do that again but difference is it’s Krosan Verge instead that’s probably the most request land to get a cycle from the commander players actually
Honestly i'm hoping for enemy fetches
Hey, a man can dream!
Otherwise i think that the enemy tang lands or enemy battlebond lands are more likely than a verge cycle
not the tango lands were going back to zendikar we might get those there
[Alara]
Asha, Bant Hero
Crucius
Sifa Grent of Grixis (Planeswalker)
[Brothers' War]
Ashnod, Mishra's Apprentice
Hurkyl of Lat-Nam
Mishra, Argivian artificer
Ratepe, Son of Mideah
Tocasia, Argivian Archeologist
[Dark Age]
Jherana Rure, Commander of the Order
Oliver Farrel, Icatian Priest
Tourach the Dark One
[Dominaria]
Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar
Bo Levar, Interplanar Smuggler (Planeswalker)
Commodore Guff (Planeswalker)
Crovax of Windgrace (Version 3)
Dakkon Blackblade, Shadow Slayer (PlaneswalkerWUB)
Daria of Ulgrotha (Planeswalker)
Fiers, God of Dwarves (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodR)
Gaea, Dominaria's Protector (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodG)
Geyadrone Dihada (Planeswalker)
Jared Carthalion, Shadow Mage
Jeska Ascended (PlaneswalkerWBR)
Karona, Dominaria's Avatar (Version 2)
Kristina of the Woods (Planeswalker)
Lyna, Emissary of the Soltari
Nevinyrral, Urborg's Necromancer
Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools (PlaneswalkerUB)
Urza, Academy Master (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
Vincent, Lord of the Pit (Token from Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar)
[Eldraine]
Syr Branigan, Knight of Ardenvale
[Ice Age]
Leshrac, Walker of Night (Planeswalker B)
[Innistrad]
Alena, trapper of Kessig
Halana, Kessig ranger
Unnamed WB Angel sister
Vronos the Grey Fencer (Planeswalker)
[Ixalan]
Adrian Adanto of Luijo
Captain Brandis Thorn
Emperor Apatzec Intli III
Itzama the Crested
Queen Miralda the Pious
[Kaladesh]
Vatti, Shadowblayde
[Kamigawa]
O-Kagachi, The Great Old Serpent (Version 2)
Sisters of Flesh and Spirit
[Lorwyn]
Colfenor, the Last Yew
[Mirrodin]
Ushanti, Leonin Seer
[Multiverse]
Baltrice of the Infinite Consortium (Planeswalker)
Ramaz, Shamanic Human (Planeswalker)
The Unluckiest (Planeswalker)
[New Phyrexia]
Azax-Azog, Demon Thane
Kraynox, Deep Thane
Roxith, Thane of Rot
Thrissik, Writhing Thane
Vraan, Thane of Blood
[Phyrexia]
Belbe, Phyrexian Princess
Croag of The Inner Circle
Gix, Phyrexian Demon
Sitrik, Birth Priest
Yawgmoth, Father of Machines (Legendary Enchantment Creature - GodB)
[Rabiah]
Taysir of Rabiah (PlaneswalkerWUBRG)
[Rath]
Davvol, First Evincar
Takara en-Dal
[Ravnica]
Azor, Parun (PlaneswalkerWU)
Bori Andon
Cisarzim, the Lord of Chaos
Damir, Voidwielder
Kallist Rhoka, Blademaster
Mat'Selesnya, Parun
Ritjit, Ogre Jailbreaker
Ruzi and Kuma
Senka, Stealer of Secrets
Simic, Parun
Svogthir, Parun
The Cozen
Unknown, Lotleth Troll
[Tarkir]
Arel, the Whisperer
Gvar Barzeel, Krumar Commander
[Thran Empire]
Dyfed, Mistress of Portals (Planeswalker)
Glacian, Thran Artificer
Rebbec, Thran Architect
Xod, Thran Healer
[Ulgrotha]
Baron Sengir, Vampire Lord (Version 2)
Feroz, Ulgrotha's Protector (PlaneswalkerWU)
Ravi, Grandmother Sengir (Planeswalker)
The only one you missed is Pre-spark Ugin or planeswalker commander playable version of him
EDIT: oh wait you missed the thanes of New Phyrexia
Geth, Lord of the Vault is the only one of the Thane who have a card
The others are Kraynox, Roxith, Azax-Azog, Thrissik and Vraan
https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/188999342858/hi-mark-can-we-expect-any-dfcs-in-commander
We may see another swing and miss for werewolf tribal