MTG Salvation

Return of lands matters? If landfall doesn't return, some other trigger related to it.

Are they going to reprint manlands? Are they going to complete that incomplete cycle of duals?

Devoid and eldrazi are out of question.

From what I understand, Eldrazi will show up, but in very, very small quantities, and the focus will be on the Zendikar environment of old. It hasn't been confirmed, but Rosewater expressed that that was the ideal vision for the plane in a blogatog post.

really looking forward to landfall and hopefully level up makes a return

I was fine with return to Zendikar. But they really need to stop these repeat sets. I'm probably going to like it but ugh..... Sure, Ravnica 4 coming soon!

Adventures are probably returning and so are manlands. Landfall has to be coming back. Levelling I'm a lot less confident about.

I personally think a major mechanical theme of this set is Zendikar itself rising up in some fashion so that makes me expect tons of lands matter and manland-based combat going on. Fortifications? Who knows..

Level up won't return. It mostly failed as a mechanic, as most players have mixed feelings about it or don't like it, many loathe the frame, has a lot of board complexity and doesn't mesh well with +1/+1 counters. Personally I love the mechanic, but I'm not the majority of players.

Landfall is simply not going to be left out. There's no chance. It's the core of Zendikar lands matters design and beloved by most people. And for good reason. It mitigates one of the most frustrating parts of the game, drawing lands in top deck mode, as well as making lands, the card type with the least fans, exciting to everyone.

This is why landfall is so great; assuming you have the necessary lands in play to be able to play your cards in general, this marks the the difference between landfall and no landfall:

Having no landfall permanent in play: Drawing nonlands is exciting, drawing lands is boring.

Having a landfall permanent in play: Drawing anything is exciting.

Now, a good player appreciates lands in a different way than above, but think of Kitchen Table Toby. Landfall increases the amount of exciting draws without undercutting the game's foundation of randomized card draw. It's just great.

I got the the enemy tango lands being in this

And omnath will get the 4th or all 5 colors as well and when that happens will he be better or worse than horde of notions for elemental tribal since he’s pretty much elemental/landfall focused

Oh by the way heard 0% eldrazi’s in this one but I’m still speculating emrakul or some new titans from the eldrazis protential true home plane comes someday (eldrazis ben alive longer than any other creature that’s ever existed in magic according to ugin)

It's the same time of year as Throne of Eldraine so there will be a new Brawl revival required. Maybe Omnath, Locus of the Maelstrom UBRG

old duals as expeditions
i called it first

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It's the same time of year as Throne of Eldraine so there will be a new Brawl revival required. Maybe Omnath, Locus of the Maelstrom UBRG

Nah next year is a cycle of Oathbreaker precons.

Unfortunately (or fortunately since many have a love/hate relationship with them) I think fetchlands will not be reprinted here, no way are they going to let the fetchland + fetch-able duals happen in standard again, even if by the time Zendikar is out it’ll only be a few months before the Ravnica shock lands rotate. However I could see them finishing a cycle or two, like enemy tango lands or perhaps reprinting Horizon Canopy with a printing of all the other non-enemy paired horizon lands. Another option since it is a landfall set is printing a river of tears cycle.

I’d like to see this Zendikar set to be multicolored focus, since it’s almost certain that Return to theros will be a mono-colored focused set because of the devotion mechanic and that means with Eldrain there will be two mono-colored sets in a row. So a multicolor set seem like the best way to shake things up after Theros. Perhaps the most recent Omnath is a hint that it will even be an enemy wedge set with wedge printings of the panorama lands like Bant panorama to facilitate landfall? (Though truth be told, I think this is just me getting my hopes up for proper an enemy wedge set since I loved Khans limited).

Ok there’s one thing I will say

Omnath 5-color

ETB create X 1/1 elementals X is half of life total

Also Elemental ETB draw a card and ping for 5

Accidentally double post

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Unfortunately (or fortunately since many have a love/hate relationship with them) I think fetchlands will not be reprinted here, no way are they going to let the fetchland + fetch-able duals happen in standard again, even if by the time Zendikar is out it’ll only be a few months before the Ravnica shock lands rotate. However I could see them finishing a cycle or two, like enemy tango lands or perhaps reprinting Horizon Canopy with a printing of all the other non-enemy paired horizon lands. Another option since it is a landfall set is printing a river of tears cycle.

I’d like to see this Zendikar set to be multicolored focus, since it’s almost certain that Return to theros will be a mono-colored focused set because of the devotion mechanic and that means with Eldrain there will be two mono-colored sets in a row. So a multicolor set seem like the best way to shake things up after Theros. Perhaps the most recent Omnath is a hint that it will even be an enemy wedge set with wedge printings of the panorama lands like Bant panorama to facilitate landfall? (Though truth be told, I think this is just me getting my hopes up for proper an enemy wedge set since I loved Khans limited).

This set comes out at rotation, none of the shocks will be in Standard

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I was fine with return to Zendikar. But they really need to stop these repeat sets. I'm probably going to like it but ugh..... Sure, Ravnica 4 coming soon!

I love return sets. I hope this one has the enemy cycle of the BFZ tango lands. I really want a simic ocean themed one.

Terminator themed Return to Innistrad. Futuristic Horror! Alien too. Future of Innistrad. 10,000 years after Eldritch Moon. Now the story is they have the technology to travel to the moon. And Emrakul cultists are planning to travel there to break out Emrakul.

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Terminator themed Return to Innistrad. Futuristic Horror! Alien too. Future of Innistrad. 10,000 years after Eldritch Moon. Now the story is they have the technology to travel to the moon. And Emrakul cultists are planning to travel there to break out Emrakul.

Total Recall + Terminator + Eldrazi would be awesome. They'd just be going to the moon instead of Mars, but I can't wait to get the Arnold planeswalker. Nyyyrrraaaaghh!!

Ok with pioneer

If the enemy fetchs are reprints (which they aren’t) if that happens they will probably ban those on the spot for pioneer (emergency ban) so don’t get your hopes up

More evidence the set is probably going to be completing the cycle of enemy color Zendikar Duals instead of fetch reprints.

My guess is that Eldrazi will be a smaller theme this time. More like one or two limited arch-types, rather then half the set. Lands as overarching theme and allies should make a return. I hope quests make a return as well. Quests are free in terms of space in the set: they can always make quests supporting the other themes and have just a single "quest-matters" card in the set.

There is relatively small space for innovation. With D&D coming back, they should capitalize on the adventure theme. So I hope they finally do dungeons in MTG.

Look at this they are continue the pre-con decks but they aren’t brawl they are commander same goes for Ikoria

I'd like to think Landfall will return. The quest-like enchantments in the original Zendikar used Landfall as part of their build-up effect so it would seem silly not to bring that back. Or if not, at least some activity which demonstrates the adventure-ish feel the original setting brought us pre-Eldrazi.

'buster

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I'd like to think Landfall will return. The quest-like enchantments in the original Zendikar used Landfall as part of their build-up effect so it would seem silly not to bring that back. Or if not, at least some activity which demonstrates the adventure-ish feel the original setting brought us pre-Eldrazi.

'buster

Agreed. I think landfall is pretty much a given. Quests might also return given the potential synergy with Theros enchantment theme.