Dunno if it's been mentioned or not yet but it looks like there's another price jump this year. Net price for a set of four looks to be in the 90s, which would put normal MSRP at about $180-190.
Wait, this doesn't make any sense. A set of 4 decks in the 90$ range for all 4 means that they would be around 22$ a piece... not 180$
Maybe an Utter End style card. Destroy Target Permanent. But mono black instead of Orzhov.
Hm unlikely. Black doesn't handle artifacts that good. Apart from this only white can destroy/exile all permanent cards and that comes with high cost -> bad card draw, small/no flexibility on those effects.
Maybe black only cares for high or low CC enchantments. Or it comes with some kind of additional cost like life or other resources.
Yea “additional costs” is probably where this is going
But anyway I still think naya will be one of the decks color combos and creature want to take damage will probably be the theme and the sub theme is dinosaurs
Enchantment RemoverB
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As an additional cost to cast Enchantment remover, pay X life. Destroy target enchantment with converted mana cost X.
This could easily be how enchantment removal shows up in black. Maybe upping the mana cost could enable it to hit all non-land permanents.
Monoblack is not going to hit artifacts.
I think black enchantment removal could end up being something along the lines of an aura with "enchant enchantment" and "Enchanted enchantment has "at the beginning of your upkeep, pay X or sacrifice this enchantment"." Where X is some cost, which could be mana, life, or something else depending on the needs of the set.
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Dunno if it's been mentioned or not yet but it looks like there's another price jump this year. Net price for a set of four looks to be in the 90s, which would put normal MSRP at about $180-190.
Wait, this doesn't make any sense. A set of 4 decks in the 90$ range for all 4 means that they would be around 22$ a piece... not 180$
he said net price, ie what retailers pay for the product, which would put these at $45.00 a box.
Dunno if it's been mentioned or not yet but it looks like there's another price jump this year. Net price for a set of four looks to be in the 90s, which would put normal MSRP at about $180-190.
Wait, this doesn't make any sense. A set of 4 decks in the 90$ range for all 4 means that they would be around 22$ a piece... not 180$
he said net price, ie what retailers pay for the product, which would put these at $45.00 a box.
That's what I meant. I think I may have used the wrong term.
There are lots of tribes who have been waiting for a viable commander. (Wurm, Ooze, Djinn, Kavu, Construct, ect ect). I actually had an idea for Naya Wurm Commander who destroys a noncreature, nonland permanent whenever a wurm is cast from your hand.
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I could get down on this. Hopefully it's a Snake Ninja Legend to hit two popular tribes in one. Edric could make an appearance, along with some other classic "Little Sneaky Guy" cards.
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I suppose both the ninjas from modern horizons and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow could be a foreshadow of more ninja stuff
But I know snakes can get green but what about ninjas though?
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I suppose both the ninjas from modern horizons and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow could be a foreshadow of more ninja stuff
But I know snakes can get green but what about ninjas though?
Well, just because all ninja's we've gotten so far have been blue and/or black, it doesn't mean they all have to be. It's all about flavor. I could imagine seeing green aligned ninja's stalking through the undergrowth and leaping silently from branch to branch in a vast forest, striking fear into the hearts of those who would dare defile their homeland.
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I think future enchantment removal will look similar... More in the vein of 'Target opponent sacrifices a creature or enchantment' and less of the ability to destroy your own enchantments (norenegingonyourdarkpacks)
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(U/B) is :symbu: or :symub: and the same is true for the other 9 hybrid symbols with their two colors in for the last 2 leters of the code. ((2/B) and co are :sym2b:)
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B) T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I could get down on this. Hopefully it's a Snake Ninja Legend to hit two popular tribes in one. Edric could make an appearance, along with some other classic "Little Sneaky Guy" cards.
I think I've suggested a Snake Ninja legend before in this topic. I know I got an idea for one when suggesting a BGU Naga/Snake deck. But would it have Commander Ninjutsu like Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I could get down on this. Hopefully it's a Snake Ninja Legend to hit two popular tribes in one. Edric could make an appearance, along with some other classic "Little Sneaky Guy" cards.
I think I've suggested a Snake Ninja legend before in this topic. I know I got an idea for one when suggesting a BGU Naga/Snake deck. But would it have Commander Ninjutsu like Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow?
It should. Otherwise, its a waste of a good mechanic.
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SULTAI UNBLOCKABLE, they can print some ninjutsu there for sakashima's student AND sygg, rivercutthroat could be relevant... AND, SULTAI that's not graveyard themed
I could get down on this. Hopefully it's a Snake Ninja Legend to hit two popular tribes in one. Edric could make an appearance, along with some other classic "Little Sneaky Guy" cards.
I think I've suggested a Snake Ninja legend before in this topic. I know I got an idea for one when suggesting a BGU Naga/Snake deck. But would it have Commander Ninjutsu like Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow?
Well, the Snake Ninja I'm thinking of would be one of the secondary Commanders for a Naga/Snake tribal deck, like how Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith was a secondary commander for Feline Ferocity, representing the Equipment subtheme. The face of the deck would be the Naga/Snake tribal card, while the secondary legends would be a Naga and a Snake, respectively.
Now, a BGU deck focused around stealth would be a different beast. A Snake Ninja could be the face of such a deck, but more likely would be secondary. I would like to see these legends in a BGU Stealth Deck:
Cat Rogue
Snake Ninja
Elf Faerie
However, a dedicated Stealth deck is more likely to be UB, with Rogues, Ninjas, and Pirates aplenty.
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I don't think the Heroes and Villains decks will work because each deck needs three leaders... so say Nicol Bolas was one of the villains (to give him a good send off) and the face card was a Commander Planeswalker for Nicol Bolas... what would the other two cards be? the original Legends copy of Nicol Bolas? that seems silly to me, and still leaves the issue of the second new legend. Nicol Bolas' first Leutenant 'Crazy Zombie Dragon Warrior' could be a 3 color legend in the deck, but the idea of him being made the commander of Nicol Bolas' deck is laughable at best (Nicol Bolas himself would likely have the card shredded and banned in all formats).
I do like the idea of a Rogue/Ninja (unblockable sabotage) deck, something that touches on tribal but isn't a heavy tribal deck.
I find myself hoping once more for a Rebel deck and a Poison deck... you know, the long shots...
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(U/B) is :symbu: or :symub: and the same is true for the other 9 hybrid symbols with their two colors in for the last 2 leters of the code. ((2/B) and co are :sym2b:)
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B) T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
Wait, this doesn't make any sense. A set of 4 decks in the 90$ range for all 4 means that they would be around 22$ a piece... not 180$
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Black cards to remove enchantments are coming?
I’m listening
Something along those lines seems reasonable.
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Hm unlikely. Black doesn't handle artifacts that good. Apart from this only white can destroy/exile all permanent cards and that comes with high cost -> bad card draw, small/no flexibility on those effects.
Maybe black only cares for high or low CC enchantments. Or it comes with some kind of additional cost like life or other resources.
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As an additional cost to cast Enchantment remover, pay X life. Destroy target enchantment with converted mana cost X.
This could easily be how enchantment removal shows up in black. Maybe upping the mana cost could enable it to hit all non-land permanents.
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
But anyway I still think naya will be one of the decks color combos and creature want to take damage will probably be the theme and the sub theme is dinosaurs
Monoblack is not going to hit artifacts.
I think black enchantment removal could end up being something along the lines of an aura with "enchant enchantment" and "Enchanted enchantment has "at the beginning of your upkeep, pay X or sacrifice this enchantment"." Where X is some cost, which could be mana, life, or something else depending on the needs of the set.
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he said net price, ie what retailers pay for the product, which would put these at $45.00 a box.
That's what I meant. I think I may have used the wrong term.
How about a Gate To Phyrexia variant?
Unlikely, at least as an enchantment. Perhaps as a sorcery.
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I could get down on this. Hopefully it's a Snake Ninja Legend to hit two popular tribes in one. Edric could make an appearance, along with some other classic "Little Sneaky Guy" cards.
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Innistrad - The Darkest Night
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I suppose both the ninjas from modern horizons and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow could be a foreshadow of more ninja stuff
But I know snakes can get green but what about ninjas though?
Well, just because all ninja's we've gotten so far have been blue and/or black, it doesn't mean they all have to be. It's all about flavor. I could imagine seeing green aligned ninja's stalking through the undergrowth and leaping silently from branch to branch in a vast forest, striking fear into the hearts of those who would dare defile their homeland.
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I can think of a few ways that Mono-Black can remove enchantments currently...
I think future enchantment removal will look similar... More in the vein of 'Target opponent sacrifices a creature or enchantment' and less of the ability to destroy your own enchantments (no reneging on your dark packs)
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B)
T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
Don't forget Kaseto, Orochi Archmage.
I think I've suggested a Snake Ninja legend before in this topic. I know I got an idea for one when suggesting a BGU Naga/Snake deck. But would it have Commander Ninjutsu like Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow?
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
It should. Otherwise, its a waste of a good mechanic.
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What about the ninja type
Naga snake ninja?
Now, a BGU deck focused around stealth would be a different beast. A Snake Ninja could be the face of such a deck, but more likely would be secondary. I would like to see these legends in a BGU Stealth Deck:
Cat Rogue
Snake Ninja
Elf Faerie
However, a dedicated Stealth deck is more likely to be UB, with Rogues, Ninjas, and Pirates aplenty.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I feel like if we get a BUG cat it’ll be a Rakshasa and may not have anything to do with the rest of the precon’s themes.
Give Zaliki a CardI must have all the cats!
I do like the idea of a Rogue/Ninja (unblockable sabotage) deck, something that touches on tribal but isn't a heavy tribal deck.
I find myself hoping once more for a Rebel deck and a Poison deck... you know, the long shots...
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B)
T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags