I rather see a new Plane than revisiting something at this point. If anything, I would much rather go back to Kamigawa instead of Ravanica, and focus on Bolas doing something to that Plane. There hasn't been a "bad guys" focused set in such a long time. Last I can remember is New Phyrexia.
Did you somehow miss Hour of Devastation?
That still to me is a good guy arc that just lost. Not something like Hour where Jace and co just get separated. That to me is still a good guy focused arc, since it develops the good guys rather than the bad guys. I want to see a bad guy development arc. Even something like Garruk going around killing some one-shot Planeswalkers.
No, Amonkhet block, and now Dominaria is all about Liliana Vess. A villain, a.k.a. a Bad Girl. A villain protagonist, sure, but she is a villain.
Nissa warned Gideon and Chandra, but they were so enamored with Lily that they wouldn't listen, which is why Nissa left. And lo and behold, Nissa gets proven right. Lily was only in the Gatewatch to use it to help her kill her last demons, now that they are dead she no longer has any real reason to stick around.
I've tried holding my tongue about this, but Liliana isn't hooking up with Bolas because she wants to. The demon contract binds her to him.
Also, she may not care all that much about Gids and Nissa (still not sure on her feelings about Chandra), but she definitely cares a great deal about Jace. More than she's willing to admit to others.
Liliana isn't a moustache-twirling villain like Ob Nixilis or Bolas. She's definitely not a good person, but she does have some positive traits that she usually keeps hidden.
I rather see a new Plane than revisiting something at this point. If anything, I would much rather go back to Kamigawa instead of Ravanica, and focus on Bolas doing something to that Plane. There hasn't been a "bad guys" focused set in such a long time. Last I can remember is New Phyrexia.
Did you somehow miss Hour of Devastation?
That still to me is a good guy arc that just lost. Not something like Hour where Jace and co just get separated. That to me is still a good guy focused arc, since it develops the good guys rather than the bad guys. I want to see a bad guy development arc. Even something like Garruk going around killing some one-shot Planeswalkers.
No, Amonkhet block, and now Dominaria is all about Liliana Vess. A villain, a.k.a. a Bad Girl. A villain protagonist, sure, but she is a villain.
Nissa warned Gideon and Chandra, but they were so enamored with Lily that they wouldn't listen, which is why Nissa left. And lo and behold, Nissa gets proven right. Lily was only in the Gatewatch to use it to help her kill her last demons, now that they are dead she no longer has any real reason to stick around.
I've tried holding my tongue about this, but Liliana isn't hooking up with Bolas because she wants to. The demon contract binds her to him.
Also, she may not care all that much about Gids and Nissa (still not sure on her feelings about Chandra), but she definitely cares a great deal about Jace. More than she's willing to admit to others.
Liliana isn't a moustache-twirling villain like Ob Nixilis or Bolas. She's definitely not a good person, but she does have some positive traits that she usually keeps hidden.
I third a return to Alara btw.
Liking Jace doesn't not make her Villain. Being a Villain doesn't require you to be a friendless monster or have ambitious plans.
Sure she is not like Ob or Bolas but that is more because Lili is inherently vain and lazy. She is an embarrassment compared to other Oldwalkers power wise although I am sure part of that is she is the youngest.
Probably helps she is not the smartest tool in the toolshed either. She doesn't seem to have much knowledge on major figures, events or artifacts in Dominaria for instance. Sorin didn't think she ever be a real threat.
She is a villain cause she is likes torturing people, mass murder to raise zombies and killing Angels. She also likes welching on contracts. No one forced her to sell her soul to Demons. Even Bolas told her to just go Vampire or Lich cause this deal was going to end poorly for her.
That still to me is a good guy arc that just lost. Not something like Hour where Jace and co just get separated. That to me is still a good guy focused arc, since it develops the good guys rather than the bad guys. I want to see a bad guy development arc. Even something like Garruk going around killing some one-shot Planeswalkers.
No, Amonkhet block, and now Dominaria is all about Liliana Vess. A villain, a.k.a. a Bad Girl. A villain protagonist, sure, but she is a villain.
Nissa warned Gideon and Chandra, but they were so enamored with Lily that they wouldn't listen, which is why Nissa left. And lo and behold, Nissa gets proven right. Lily was only in the Gatewatch to use it to help her kill her last demons, now that they are dead she no longer has any real reason to stick around.
I've tried holding my tongue about this, but Liliana isn't hooking up with Bolas because she wants to. The demon contract binds her to him.
Also, she may not care all that much about Gids and Nissa (still not sure on her feelings about Chandra), but she definitely cares a great deal about Jace. More than she's willing to admit to others.
Liliana isn't a moustache-twirling villain like Ob Nixilis or Bolas. She's definitely not a good person, but she does have some positive traits that she usually keeps hidden.
I third a return to Alara btw.
Liking Jace doesn't not make her Villain.
I didn't say that, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see in the post anywhere I claimed that she wasn't a villain.
I pointed out Jace because Krishnath never bothered to mention or account for her affection for Jace anywhere in his posts about the woman or her motives. He's also tried to claim that Nissa was right about her because she turns on them later, without even mentioning that with Bolas, she has no choice.
I rather see a new Plane than revisiting something at this point. If anything, I would much rather go back to Kamigawa instead of Ravanica, and focus on Bolas doing something to that Plane. There hasn't been a "bad guys" focused set in such a long time. Last I can remember is New Phyrexia.
Did you somehow miss Hour of Devastation?
That still to me is a good guy arc that just lost. Not something like Hour where Jace and co just get separated. That to me is still a good guy focused arc, since it develops the good guys rather than the bad guys. I want to see a bad guy development arc. Even something like Garruk going around killing some one-shot Planeswalkers.
No, Amonkhet block, and now Dominaria is all about Liliana Vess. A villain, a.k.a. a Bad Girl. A villain protagonist, sure, but she is a villain.
Nissa warned Gideon and Chandra, but they were so enamored with Lily that they wouldn't listen, which is why Nissa left. And lo and behold, Nissa gets proven right. Lily was only in the Gatewatch to use it to help her kill her last demons, now that they are dead she no longer has any real reason to stick around.
I've tried holding my tongue about this, but Liliana isn't hooking up with Bolas because she wants to. The demon contract binds her to him.
Also, she may not care all that much about Gids and Nissa (still not sure on her feelings about Chandra), but she definitely cares a great deal about Jace. More than she's willing to admit to others.
Liliana isn't a moustache-twirling villain like Ob Nixilis or Bolas. She's definitely not a good person, but she does have some positive traits that she usually keeps hidden.
I would love to see a return to Lorwyn and get some serious goblin vs. Elf wars going on. Dominaria had pretty good additions for both tribes in there. A few more would make both good again.
I would love to see a return to Lorwyn and get some serious goblin vs. Elf wars going on. Dominaria had pretty good additions for both tribes in there. A few more would make both good again.
Good again in Standard? Also I wouldn't get my hopes up too much with Lorwyn, since any plane we visit in a Standard non-Core set now has to have story relevance.
How do we know of Erebos didn't successful corrupt her to the dark side?
But anyway a rumor is MaRo stated the plane after m19 is yet another new plane
Dark side? Isn't Erebos actually a pretty decent guy, especially when compared to the other gods?
Not really. Erebos and Athreos killed Daxos's mother for trying to "save" her son. She journeyed to the underworld shrine hoping to understand why Daxos behaved autistic. He was an oracle the whole time. They tried to claim him and his mother had to kill herself to save him basically.
These are Greek gods. None of them are good or bad. They're essentially forces of nature with their own whims and personalities that meddle in human lives for dominance. They're too vast and powerful to care. Like trying to reason with a storm. Even Ephara allowed Meletians to die because they were worshippers of Heliod. And she loves Meletis.
I've wanted a return to Alara ever since we left Alara, but for some reason they don't want to visit the plane, which is kinda weird given the amount of Alara related card they release on suplemmental products.
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I've wanted a return to Alara ever since we left Alara, but for some reason they don't want to visit the plane, which is kinda weird given the amount of Alara related card they release on suplemmental products.
Ravnica had its return block many years after the first one, and the same was true for Mirrodin. So I don't think they're refusing to visit Alara, but it might not be the right time for it yet.
I've wanted a return to Alara ever since we left Alara, but for some reason they don't want to visit the plane, which is kinda weird given the amount of Alara related card they release on suplemmental products.
Per Maro issues for Alara is A) they'd need identity of the the new "shards" in a post conflux Alara and B) the try and space out multicolor sets and they chose to use Ravnica, Ixalan and Tarkir as the multicolor sets since.
Its Rabiah scale rank is 4 same as Dominaria, Tarkir,and Vryn so I except to see it sooner then later.
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How do we know of Erebos didn't successful corrupt her to the dark side?
But anyway a rumor is MaRo stated the plane after m19 is yet another new plane
Dark side? Isn't Erebos actually a pretty decent guy, especially when compared to the other gods?
Erebos and Kruphix are pretty decent, but they are still gods and use a different morality system than mortals and are willing to do horrible things to people if it helps their agenda long term.
If we Return to Theros I hope we get Constellation as a returning mechanic and not Bestow or Monstrous.
That's funny, because Monstrous is actually the best of the Theros mechanics. Devotion is simply a renamed and cleaned up "Chroma", which sucked. And Constellation is basically "enchantmentfall". Bestow was a pretty fun way to deal with the "aura" dilemma though.
How do we know of Erebos didn't successful corrupt her to the dark side?
But anyway a rumor is MaRo stated the plane after m19 is yet another new plane
Dark side? Isn't Erebos actually a pretty decent guy, especially when compared to the other gods?
Not really. Erebos and Athreos killed Daxos's mother for trying to "save" her son. She journeyed to the underworld shrine hoping to understand why Daxos behaved autistic. He was an oracle the whole time. They tried to claim him and his mother had to kill herself to save him basically.
These are Greek gods. None of them are good or bad. They're essentially forces of nature with their own whims and personalities that meddle in human lives for dominance. They're too vast and powerful to care. Like trying to reason with a storm. Even Ephara allowed Meletians to die because they were worshippers of Heliod. And she loves Meletis.
None of them are good or bad? Wat? Have you even read Greek mythology? Greek myth had three decent olympians, the rest were major bastards. Hades and Hephaestus were rather nice, while Persephone was downright nice. I mean, both Zeus and Poseidon were rapists for one, Hera was controlling and killed any girl who even looked in Zeus's general direction. Demeter was a psychotic ***** of a woman who was willing to kill the entire world because she couldn't accept that her daughter had fallen in love with Hades. And I am saying this as someone who actually follows that religion, but their collective behavior was completely and utterly FUBAR.
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I've tried holding my tongue about this, but Liliana isn't hooking up with Bolas because she wants to. The demon contract binds her to him.
Also, she may not care all that much about Gids and Nissa (still not sure on her feelings about Chandra), but she definitely cares a great deal about Jace. More than she's willing to admit to others.
Liliana isn't a moustache-twirling villain like Ob Nixilis or Bolas. She's definitely not a good person, but she does have some positive traits that she usually keeps hidden.
I third a return to Alara btw.
Liking Jace doesn't not make her Villain. Being a Villain doesn't require you to be a friendless monster or have ambitious plans.
Sure she is not like Ob or Bolas but that is more because Lili is inherently vain and lazy. She is an embarrassment compared to other Oldwalkers power wise although I am sure part of that is she is the youngest.
Probably helps she is not the smartest tool in the toolshed either. She doesn't seem to have much knowledge on major figures, events or artifacts in Dominaria for instance. Sorin didn't think she ever be a real threat.
She is a villain cause she is likes torturing people, mass murder to raise zombies and killing Angels. She also likes welching on contracts. No one forced her to sell her soul to Demons. Even Bolas told her to just go Vampire or Lich cause this deal was going to end poorly for her.
I didn't say that, and I'm pretty sure you didn't see in the post anywhere I claimed that she wasn't a villain.
I pointed out Jace because Krishnath never bothered to mention or account for her affection for Jace anywhere in his posts about the woman or her motives. He's also tried to claim that Nissa was right about her because she turns on them later, without even mentioning that with Bolas, she has no choice.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Good again in Standard? Also I wouldn't get my hopes up too much with Lorwyn, since any plane we visit in a Standard non-Core set now has to have story relevance.
And they do get Elsepth out of the underworld
How do we know of Erebos didn't successful corrupt her to the dark side?
But anyway a rumor is MaRo stated the plane after m19 is yet another new plane
Even so, the longer wait to return to Theros the sweeter the return...... New plane? Hopefully Vryn
Dark side? Isn't Erebos actually a pretty decent guy, especially when compared to the other gods?
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|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
These are Greek gods. None of them are good or bad. They're essentially forces of nature with their own whims and personalities that meddle in human lives for dominance. They're too vast and powerful to care. Like trying to reason with a storm. Even Ephara allowed Meletians to die because they were worshippers of Heliod. And she loves Meletis.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
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Ravnica had its return block many years after the first one, and the same was true for Mirrodin. So I don't think they're refusing to visit Alara, but it might not be the right time for it yet.
Per Maro issues for Alara is A) they'd need identity of the the new "shards" in a post conflux Alara and B) the try and space out multicolor sets and they chose to use Ravnica, Ixalan and Tarkir as the multicolor sets since.
Its Rabiah scale rank is 4 same as Dominaria, Tarkir,and Vryn so I except to see it sooner then later.
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It's not thero's next we are going too it's straight to the final battle of bolas (ravnica)
Erebos and Kruphix are pretty decent, but they are still gods and use a different morality system than mortals and are willing to do horrible things to people if it helps their agenda long term.
That's funny, because Monstrous is actually the best of the Theros mechanics. Devotion is simply a renamed and cleaned up "Chroma", which sucked. And Constellation is basically "enchantmentfall". Bestow was a pretty fun way to deal with the "aura" dilemma though.
None of them are good or bad? Wat? Have you even read Greek mythology? Greek myth had three decent olympians, the rest were major bastards. Hades and Hephaestus were rather nice, while Persephone was downright nice. I mean, both Zeus and Poseidon were rapists for one, Hera was controlling and killed any girl who even looked in Zeus's general direction. Demeter was a psychotic ***** of a woman who was willing to kill the entire world because she couldn't accept that her daughter had fallen in love with Hades. And I am saying this as someone who actually follows that religion, but their collective behavior was completely and utterly FUBAR.
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