After some reference Pictures below its to assume we get both Ajani & Tezzeret AER.
Since there are no other mono W & mono U Planeswalkers, i think
it coult be reasonable, if both are in their respective main-Colors.
Tezzeret might be B, due to the lack of B Planeswalkers in this block so far.
And if we do the "Planeswalker Color Balance" that we're aware of...
W: .5 U: 1 B: 0 R: 1.5 G: 1
Which sort of indicates that Tezz will be at least black.
We could potentially see a mono-white Ajani, but I highly highly doubt it. And mono-blue Tezz hasn't made a lot of sense since Bolas messed with him (dunno if it made that much sense to begin with though, either)
Wow, thats GREAT News Ajani in GW as you can conclude from my Signature d:)
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Ajani, Wildborn 2GW (3 Loyality)
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+1 Put a +1/+1 Counter on target Creature you Control. That Creature gains Flying & Vigilance.
-2 Destroy target Artifact or Enchantment. You gain Life equal to ist manacost.
Ajani is going to be GW (or possibly RGW), Tezzeret is going to be UB
This is the most likely scenario in my opinion. Also it makes a clear set of planeswalker decks for the block where every colour is represented and no colours are represented more than twice; RW Chandra GU Nissa GW Ajani UB Tezzeret
Even if Ajani is mono-white, his deck will be GW.
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Money's on Ajani AND Elspeth (he wouldn't leave Theros without her right? He just drags her out of the underworld) and Tezzerret.
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Ajani is going to be GW (or possibly RGW), Tezzeret is going to be UB
This is the most likely scenario in my opinion. Also it makes a clear set of planeswalker decks for the block where every colour is represented and no colours are represented more than twice; RW Chandra GU Nissa GW Ajani UB Tezzeret
Even if Ajani is mono-white, his deck will be GW.
Ajani will be at least GW when he gets printed, MaRo specifically mentioned that they like having him as the GW iconic planeswalker.
Money's on Ajani AND Elspeth (he wouldn't leave Theros without her right? He just drags her out of the underworld) and Tezzerret.
That would be quite a feat considering that Elspeth is not only dead, but in the Therosian underworld where planeswalking Does.Not.Work.
The only way she leaves the Therosian underworld is either as a Returned (in which case she'd be undead and thus without a spark) or by Erebos's specific permission. And the latter is not going to happen unless the Therosian god of the Dead gains something by it.
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I'm on Dimir Tezzeret and NayAjani. Tezz because color balance and Ajani because checkboxes (I don't care what wizards claims, they exist and they are a factor in design).
I'm on Dimir Tezzeret and NayAjani. Tezz because color balance and Ajani because checkboxes (I don't care what wizards claims, they exist and they are a factor in design).
They exist, but their effect on design is negligible.
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In other words, "you need to be this planeswalker to take a place in the story". This triggers me for some reason. And I have no idea what exactly makes Saheeli a face of the set. Her appeal?
Thinking about that picture of the Gatewatch in the arena. Seriously, who exactly are they supposed to go up against? "And now, to do battle against the five individuals who handed the Eldrazis' collective asses to them just two weeks ago ... a Thriving Turtle!"
Aether Revolt is going to have Tezzeret, Ajani, and for good measure, will include Dack, Domri Rade, Tibalt, Koth, Narset, Sarkhan, Vraska, and every other random planeswalker Wizards has featured on a card.
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In other words, "you need to be this planeswalker to take a place in the story". This triggers me for some reason. And I have no idea what exactly makes Saheeli a face of the set. Her appeal?
Her appeal (I.e. she appeals to people from the Indian subcontinent and surrounding regions.) is the exact reason. There are (roughly) one billion people who are either from that region or descendants to people from that region. That means roughly one in every seven people in the world. That is a huge demographic. So, not having a planeswalker of that ethnicity in as the face of a set inspired by that region of the world would not just stupid, but would have been down right damaging for them as a company. Tarkir got two planeswalkers of central Asian descent (Sarkhan and Narset), if Kaladesh had gotten zero, there would have been a *****storm of such proportions that it would have hurt not just WotC, but their parent company as well, and people *would* have gotten fired over it. Basically, they had no choice on the matter.
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Currently I'm expecting just a UB Tezzeret in Aether Revolt. Ajani I expect will be the lead PW for Amonkhet.
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Tezzeret in UB (perhaps ever mono-B, we have too many blue planeswalkers already)
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Just because Ajani's showing up in the story doesn't mean he's getting a PW card this block. By Amonkhet, certainly. But we just had a 6PW block. We don't even yet know why he's on Kaladesh. Did he stop by the Gatewatch and get paid in catnip to go help Chandra and Nissa?
And Theros shows us a block can have three PWs with a shared color: Xenagos, Kiora, and Ajani. In a block as artifact-heavy as Kaladesh, three blue PWs is no big deal, especially when they're all multicolored.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Three bicolor Planeswalkers all sharing a color isn't that odd. Nor is having a color balance of zero in a color for a block, both have happened before.
As for us getting Ajani and Tezzeret for Aether Revolt, that's very likely. 2 Planeswalkers for the Small Block is the standard. It seems hard to imagine they would give us four in the first block and only one in the second, especially when neither Saheeli or Dovin (so far) seems necessary to include in the first block. Saheeli definitely could have waited until the second. All that needs to be figured out is how they'll build them, us getting two is very likely.
Color balance says that Selesnya Ajani and Dimir Tezzeret fits fine, and that's the most likely way it'll pan out. We could see tricolor for either of them, but I wouldn't bank on it necessarily. I still think Bolas in the next block means that six bi/monocolor Planeswalkers here isn't an issue, but I'll admit that I don't have any evidence to support that necessarily.
Just because Ajani's showing up in the story doesn't mean he's getting a PW card this block. By Amonkhet, certainly. But we just had a 6PW block. We don't even yet know why he's on Kaladesh. Did he stop by the Gatewatch and get paid in catnip to go help Chandra and Nissa?
And Theros shows us a block can have three PWs with a shared color: Xenagos, Kiora, and Ajani. In a block as artifact-heavy as Kaladesh, three blue PWs is no big deal, especially when they're all multicolored.
We will most likely be getting two planeswalkers in Aether Revolt, the question thus remains whether or not the second one is Ajani or someone we haven't seen yet.
Also, Alara had three red planeswalkers.
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I would not be surprised to see a new Karn in Aether Revolt, or more likely, Amonkhet. My completely unfounded theory goes that Modern Masters reprinted an Elspeth and a Sarkhan. The next two blocks featured Elspeth and Sarkhan. MM2015 reprinted a Tezzeret and a Karn, with Tezzeret being featured (maybe) in Aether Revolt. As MM2017 comes out in March, it is likely they can have Karn be a part of Amonkhet before MM2017 releases, then have Liliana in the second set of Amonkhet next year (where she kills demon #3), because, you know there are going to reprint LotV in MM2017.
Ajani could be in either AR or Amonkhet, but my money is on second set of Amonkhet after a MM2017 reprint of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. Unless my head is muddled and MMJ2017 doesn't cover into Theros. If it doesn't, new G/W Ajani in Amonkhet and a reprint of Koth of the hammer in MM2017, presaging a return to New Phyrexia in fall 2017.
I would not be surprised to see a new Karn in Aether Revolt, or more likely, Amonkhet. My completely unfounded theory goes that Modern Masters reprinted an Elspeth and a Sarkhan. The next two blocks featured Elspeth and Sarkhan. MM2015 reprinted a Tezzeret and a Karn, with Tezzeret being featured (maybe) in Aether Revolt. As MM2017 comes out in March, it is likely they can have Karn be a part of Amonkhet before MM2017 releases, then have Liliana in the second set of Amonkhet next year (where she kills demon #3), because, you know there are going to reprint LotV in MM2017.
Ajani could be in either AR or Amonkhet, but my money is on second set of Amonkhet after a MM2017 reprint of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. Unless my head is muddled and MMJ2017 doesn't cover into Theros. If it doesn't, new G/W Ajani in Amonkhet and a reprint of Koth of the hammer in MM2017, presaging a return to New Phyrexia in fall 2017.
Amonkhet will likely be Liliana focused.
The logic goes like this, if each member of the Gatewatch is going to get a block that is focused around them, then BFZ was focused on either Gideon or Nissa (I am going with Nissa), SOI was focued on Jace, Kaladesh is focused on Chandra, and therefore Amonkhet will be focused will be focused on Liliana because it is the most likely home of one of her four demons (of which she has killed two), and the block after that will be focused on either Gideon or Nissa depending on which of the two was the focus of BFZ.
Karn may or may not make an appearance in either Aether Revolt or Amonkhet block. The chance increases if there is a Phyrexian influence on the plane (not necessarily to the extent of what happened on Mirrodin, which was a special case because it was nearly all metal from the start, giving the glistening oil a lot to work with.)
Tezzeret *will* show up in Aether Revolt as he is the main villain of the Kaladesh block, and not giving him a card would be foolish. Ajani will likely join him on a card. I expect that Ajani will likely join the Gatewatch as well as he is a known team player.
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People who keep saying some form of Red Ajani really don't understand his character. He's not Red anymore. Shank Vengeant was red because of his desire for revenge for his brother. He's gotten past that. He's not angry or vengeant anymore. Ajani will remain GW. Nothing more.
As for Aether Revolt it will probably just be UB Tezz. I don't really know what's up with Ajani but I don't think he'll be in the set as a card. They try to keep six walker blocks special and Ajani is probably part of the tie in for Amonkhet storywise.
Edit: Also there's no way Elspeth comes out of the underworld without us seeing it. Don't be dumb.
This, plus him being the villain will guarantee him a card. Also, it has been years since he had a card, so all the more reason to give him one. As for Ajani, I doubt he gets one. As they keep stating, five planeswalkers is the default and since we just had a block with 6 I would be surprised if they gave us six again. Even if six for Shadows block is an experiment to see if standard can handle six in a block, they wouldn't have the data to make a change by Kaladesh.
All that being said, I could see Ajani picking up a card if they made him hard to play, just like Tamiyo. Putting Ajani in Naya colors is probably the only thing they could do and give him a card.
People who keep saying some form of Red Ajani really don't understand his character. He's not Red anymore. Shank Vengeant was red because of his desire for revenge for his brother. He's gotten past that. He's not angry or vengeant anymore. Ajani will remain GW. Nothing more.
As for Aether Revolt it will probably just be UB Tezz. I don't really know what's up with Ajani but I don't think he'll be in the set as a card. They try to keep six walker blocks special and Ajani is probably part of the tie in for Amonkhet storywise.
Edit: Also there's no way Elspeth comes out of the underworld without us seeing it. Don't be dumb.
I have already explained this earlier in the thread. But Ajani still has very red traits. When Elspeth (to whom he was a mentor figure, and he treated her much like a daughter) died, he went into a rage and almost took on the entire Therosian pantheon. If the local Leonin hadn't calmed him down, he would have.
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After some reference Pictures below its to assume we get both Ajani & Tezzeret AER.
Since there are no other mono W & mono U Planeswalkers, i think
it coult be reasonable, if both are in their respective main-Colors.
Tezzeret might be B, due to the lack of B Planeswalkers in this block so far.
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/150491470598/may-i-ask-why-garruk-was-replaced-with-nissa-as
And if we do the "Planeswalker Color Balance" that we're aware of...
W: .5 U: 1 B: 0 R: 1.5 G: 1
Which sort of indicates that Tezz will be at least black.
We could potentially see a mono-white Ajani, but I highly highly doubt it. And mono-blue Tezz hasn't made a lot of sense since Bolas messed with him (dunno if it made that much sense to begin with though, either)
I hope he finally makes Tokenz.
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This is the most likely scenario in my opinion. Also it makes a clear set of planeswalker decks for the block where every colour is represented and no colours are represented more than twice;
RW Chandra
GU Nissa
GW Ajani
UB Tezzeret
Even if Ajani is mono-white, his deck will be GW.
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Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - Lifegain/Lifedrain Pillowfort
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Mizzix - Out of the Box Spellslinger
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Ajani will be at least GW when he gets printed, MaRo specifically mentioned that they like having him as the GW iconic planeswalker.
That would be quite a feat considering that Elspeth is not only dead, but in the Therosian underworld where planeswalking Does. Not. Work.
The only way she leaves the Therosian underworld is either as a Returned (in which case she'd be undead and thus without a spark) or by Erebos's specific permission. And the latter is not going to happen unless the Therosian god of the Dead gains something by it.
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They exist, but their effect on design is negligible.
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In other words, "you need to be this planeswalker to take a place in the story". This triggers me for some reason. And I have no idea what exactly makes Saheeli a face of the set. Her appeal?
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Her appeal (I.e. she appeals to people from the Indian subcontinent and surrounding regions.) is the exact reason. There are (roughly) one billion people who are either from that region or descendants to people from that region. That means roughly one in every seven people in the world. That is a huge demographic. So, not having a planeswalker of that ethnicity in as the face of a set inspired by that region of the world would not just stupid, but would have been down right damaging for them as a company. Tarkir got two planeswalkers of central Asian descent (Sarkhan and Narset), if Kaladesh had gotten zero, there would have been a *****storm of such proportions that it would have hurt not just WotC, but their parent company as well, and people *would* have gotten fired over it. Basically, they had no choice on the matter.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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And Theros shows us a block can have three PWs with a shared color: Xenagos, Kiora, and Ajani. In a block as artifact-heavy as Kaladesh, three blue PWs is no big deal, especially when they're all multicolored.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
As for us getting Ajani and Tezzeret for Aether Revolt, that's very likely. 2 Planeswalkers for the Small Block is the standard. It seems hard to imagine they would give us four in the first block and only one in the second, especially when neither Saheeli or Dovin (so far) seems necessary to include in the first block. Saheeli definitely could have waited until the second. All that needs to be figured out is how they'll build them, us getting two is very likely.
Color balance says that Selesnya Ajani and Dimir Tezzeret fits fine, and that's the most likely way it'll pan out. We could see tricolor for either of them, but I wouldn't bank on it necessarily. I still think Bolas in the next block means that six bi/monocolor Planeswalkers here isn't an issue, but I'll admit that I don't have any evidence to support that necessarily.
We will most likely be getting two planeswalkers in Aether Revolt, the question thus remains whether or not the second one is Ajani or someone we haven't seen yet.
Also, Alara had three red planeswalkers.
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I would not be surprised to see a new Karn in Aether Revolt, or more likely, Amonkhet. My completely unfounded theory goes that Modern Masters reprinted an Elspeth and a Sarkhan. The next two blocks featured Elspeth and Sarkhan. MM2015 reprinted a Tezzeret and a Karn, with Tezzeret being featured (maybe) in Aether Revolt. As MM2017 comes out in March, it is likely they can have Karn be a part of Amonkhet before MM2017 releases, then have Liliana in the second set of Amonkhet next year (where she kills demon #3), because, you know there are going to reprint LotV in MM2017.
Ajani could be in either AR or Amonkhet, but my money is on second set of Amonkhet after a MM2017 reprint of Ajani, Mentor of Heroes. Unless my head is muddled and MMJ2017 doesn't cover into Theros. If it doesn't, new G/W Ajani in Amonkhet and a reprint of Koth of the hammer in MM2017, presaging a return to New Phyrexia in fall 2017.
Amonkhet will likely be Liliana focused.
The logic goes like this, if each member of the Gatewatch is going to get a block that is focused around them, then BFZ was focused on either Gideon or Nissa (I am going with Nissa), SOI was focued on Jace, Kaladesh is focused on Chandra, and therefore Amonkhet will be focused will be focused on Liliana because it is the most likely home of one of her four demons (of which she has killed two), and the block after that will be focused on either Gideon or Nissa depending on which of the two was the focus of BFZ.
Karn may or may not make an appearance in either Aether Revolt or Amonkhet block. The chance increases if there is a Phyrexian influence on the plane (not necessarily to the extent of what happened on Mirrodin, which was a special case because it was nearly all metal from the start, giving the glistening oil a lot to work with.)
Tezzeret *will* show up in Aether Revolt as he is the main villain of the Kaladesh block, and not giving him a card would be foolish. Ajani will likely join him on a card. I expect that Ajani will likely join the Gatewatch as well as he is a known team player.
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As for Aether Revolt it will probably just be UB Tezz. I don't really know what's up with Ajani but I don't think he'll be in the set as a card. They try to keep six walker blocks special and Ajani is probably part of the tie in for Amonkhet storywise.
Edit: Also there's no way Elspeth comes out of the underworld without us seeing it. Don't be dumb.
All that being said, I could see Ajani picking up a card if they made him hard to play, just like Tamiyo. Putting Ajani in Naya colors is probably the only thing they could do and give him a card.
I have already explained this earlier in the thread. But Ajani still has very red traits. When Elspeth (to whom he was a mentor figure, and he treated her much like a daughter) died, he went into a rage and almost took on the entire Therosian pantheon. If the local Leonin hadn't calmed him down, he would have.
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