Im interested to see what people thinks gonna happen. I'm under the assumption that all planeswalkers will be multi-colored, so I'm thinking we are getting an Izzet jace. If we were getting only multicolred planeswalkers, what would you guys expect? Rakdos Tibalt? Golgari Nissa? or a brand new one entirely.
Jace SHOULD be unbanned in modern. I hate all the people saying "JACE IS BROKEN OHMYGOD HE'LL TAKE OVER AND CAWBLADE WILL REIGN SUPREME AGAIN" when bloodbraid elf literally comes down after jace and kicks jace right in the crotch, takes jace's lunch money, and jace is left to bleed out on the sidewalk in agonizing pain.
The awkward thing is that most of the planeswalkers we know of that are associated with Ravnica are potentially Izzet-aligned. Jace, Ral Zarek and Dack Fayden. Liliana has some kind of tie-in to Ravnica, but she just received two new printings (ISD, M13); that certainly doesn't automatically exclude her from RTR, but makes me think she'll get printed in GTC or Sinker if she does get a new card at all in RTR block. We don't have much other information to go on at the moment, but I would guess that we'll get one brand new planeswalker in RTR.
So... basically... Jace and a new guy. (my guess)
If the planeswalkers have guild associations I'd consider a new Golgari planeswalker since Golgari is the second most popular enemy color combination and I don't think they plan on doing a ton of enemy color stuff in the future. It would seem a good time to do it, now or Sinker anyway.
if the 2nd gatecrash planeswalker isnt kiora imma be pissed.
Be prepared to be piqued then.
Brady Dommermuth explicitly stated that Kiora is not Simic aligned, and since she shares that color identity, but shows no guild allegiance, she's out as a candidate.
As an aside, it is presumptuous to expect all walkers to be multicolored. I would dare say there would be less multicolored in general than the monocolored for them to see more use across the guilds.
Jace will be so mono-blue. I'm sincerely hoping Gideon remains mono-white.
The fact that we know Ral exists, is most probably in Ravnica, and is Izzet, makes it really unlikely Jace will also be Izzet colours. Having two planeswalkers in the same set with the same multi-color identity is not something they would ever want to do IMHO.
It also makes no sense with Jace's character. Nothing we have ever seen about him hints that he would have any Red or Izzet leanings. Quite the contrary, he seems to be the *least* emotionally driven planeswalker of all that we have seen so far. If he were to get a multi-color version it feels much more likely to me that he would go U/W or maybe U/B, although personally I expect him to remain mono-U.
Dack Fayden and Sifa are not going to be cards, at least not anytime soon. They were invented strictly for the comic book and the characters are not WotC property if I recall correctly.
I've said this before, but creating yet another Mono-Color jace would be incredibly boring direction for that character... especially one as saturated as Jace.
I dunno. RtR is pretty fan servicey to begin with. I can see them using this an opportunity to fill in the two color planeswalkers they don't have already, which would be RU, BG, GW, UG. But really, I mean, they can do whatever they want.
I dunno. RtR is pretty fan servicey to begin with. I can see them using this an opportunity to fill in the two color planeswalkers they don't have already, which would be RU, BG, GW, UG. But really, I mean, they can do whatever they want.
and i feel they have near confirmed jace as associated with izzet in that he has a picture with niv and appears to have izzet symbols on him
As I stated in another thread, Jace and Niv are big names among Magic fans. The image is a promotional one, and confirms nothing as far as what guild Jace aligns with, if any. I was personally under the impression that he was working with the Azorious due to the events of the Jace v. Chandra webcomics. Also, I don't know where you see Izzet symbols on him. I see nothing other than his usual fanfare.
yeah I mistook his usual button things for izzet symbols. I see an azorius jace being possible as well don't get me wrong. But im thinking of the jace and niv picture in relation to the angel and gideon. On the panel, they were like " you can see gideon chose a guild". maybe im being presumptuous in saying that means we r gonna see a boros gideon, i feel since both pictures are planeswalker+leader they are sending the same message.
I also feel they revealed hinted at him being izzet in that they printed omniscience and that jace is the subject of the card. I dont recall jace every being all knowing but i do know that when ur apart of the firemind you are connected to niv mizzet's omniscience. Maybe I thought about that way to deep, but wizards tends to be tricky like that.
i want too surprised in the white black sorin since those are both the lifelink colors. like i said wizards is tricky like printing all the enemy lands in the innistrad block before return to ravnica was annouced, honestly, i feel we would sooner see tamiyo as a white blue before jace. and i feel like he cant be blue black because he hated tezzeret and if he was dimir he would just be another mill jace. so i feel its between mono and izzet jace.
Be prepared to be piqued then.
Brady Dommermuth explicitly stated that Kiora is not Simic aligned, and since she shares that color identity, but shows no guild allegiance, she's out as a candidate.
Kiora does not need to be guild aligned to be a planeswalker in one of the RTR sets (yes, Gatecrash would be likely).
The math is actually in favor of her being there. Why?
Suddenly Merfolk are in Ravnica. They weren't there in Ravnica: City of Guilds. But they are now. That part of the storyline SCREAMS planeswalker. The Merfolk are the new Simic. That does not mean that Kiora took over the Simic. It means that the Merfolk did. Just because they took it over and she did not does not mean she was not why they were in Ravnica. Very possible that Kiora brought the Merfolk to Ravnica for some reason (perhaps to get away from the Eldrazi on Zendikar?) and then they noticed the Guild situation and saw that the Simic was rather weak, and decided that it was their best move for strength and protection in the new plane/planet.
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i agree my logic exactly. I have the same kind of reasoning for a golgari nissa. Since there is a zombie elf leader and there were quite a few elf cards in m13. and it fits her character to be like hey i can take over more planes if i can raise elves from the dead.
why wouldnt they though? ravnica was all about multi colored and they didnt have planeswalkers back then. and they can do alot of cool stuff with multi colored ones. it would seem silly not to.
(I don't follow the Rumors a lot so I don't know if this is possible even)
and i feel they have near confirmed jace as associated with izzet in that he has a picture with niv and appears to have izzet symbols on him
So... basically... Jace and a new guy. (my guess)
If the planeswalkers have guild associations I'd consider a new Golgari planeswalker since Golgari is the second most popular enemy color combination and I don't think they plan on doing a ton of enemy color stuff in the future. It would seem a good time to do it, now or Sinker anyway.
Smart money is on Jace staying mono blue.
Sifa and Dak are strictly the comics.
Be prepared to be piqued then.
Brady Dommermuth explicitly stated that Kiora is not Simic aligned, and since she shares that color identity, but shows no guild allegiance, she's out as a candidate.
As an aside, it is presumptuous to expect all walkers to be multicolored. I would dare say there would be less multicolored in general than the monocolored for them to see more use across the guilds.
Jace will be so mono-blue. I'm sincerely hoping Gideon remains mono-white.
It also makes no sense with Jace's character. Nothing we have ever seen about him hints that he would have any Red or Izzet leanings. Quite the contrary, he seems to be the *least* emotionally driven planeswalker of all that we have seen so far. If he were to get a multi-color version it feels much more likely to me that he would go U/W or maybe U/B, although personally I expect him to remain mono-U.
Dack Fayden and Sifa are not going to be cards, at least not anytime soon. They were invented strictly for the comic book and the characters are not WotC property if I recall correctly.
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As I stated in another thread, Jace and Niv are big names among Magic fans. The image is a promotional one, and confirms nothing as far as what guild Jace aligns with, if any. I was personally under the impression that he was working with the Azorious due to the events of the Jace v. Chandra webcomics. Also, I don't know where you see Izzet symbols on him. I see nothing other than his usual fanfare.
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Kiora does not need to be guild aligned to be a planeswalker in one of the RTR sets (yes, Gatecrash would be likely).
The math is actually in favor of her being there. Why?
Suddenly Merfolk are in Ravnica. They weren't there in Ravnica: City of Guilds. But they are now. That part of the storyline SCREAMS planeswalker. The Merfolk are the new Simic. That does not mean that Kiora took over the Simic. It means that the Merfolk did. Just because they took it over and she did not does not mean she was not why they were in Ravnica. Very possible that Kiora brought the Merfolk to Ravnica for some reason (perhaps to get away from the Eldrazi on Zendikar?) and then they noticed the Guild situation and saw that the Simic was rather weak, and decided that it was their best move for strength and protection in the new plane/planet.
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just because jace is being seen with niv-mizzet, i don't see why that means he has to be u/r
has jace displayed any tendencies in all of what we know of him to suddenly use red mana? i can't think of any
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why wouldnt they though? ravnica was all about multi colored and they didnt have planeswalkers back then. and they can do alot of cool stuff with multi colored ones. it would seem silly not to.