13 damage on his -7 I'm going to call fake on that..
i agree. Plus i hope its not real, if it is it's terribly designed. his starting loyalty should be higher if that are his +'s and -'s. Or make him 3cmc, cauese he doesnt feel like a 4 mana planeswalker.
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Giant Growth: Yeah, Richard! You make those "3-of-something-for-1-mana" cards!
Healing Salve: Go, Richard! Keep that cycle going!
Lightning Bolt: Wow, dude, that's really powerful. Make sure to keep this common-appropriate!
Dark Ritual: What are you doing? That's obviously better than the other three!
Ancestral Recall: Seriously? You want us to make this a common? Really?
i agree. Plus i hope its not real, if it is it's terribly designed. his starting loyalty should be higher if that are his +'s and -'s. Or make him 3cmc, cauese he doesnt feel like a 4 mana planeswalker.
You're kidding me right? This is broken as is. Like, other than the +1 in CMC, this makes Liliana look absolutely terrible. The only thing she would have going for her is the ability to use her +1 to your advantage, and that's terrible compared to physical card advantage.
..honestly..it's basically a Phyrexian Arena (that can't kill you), attached to what will almost always be "Destroy target creature" and an ultimate that either wins the game, or makes it 100% impossible for your opponent to win.
I once farted during the final match for prizes at an FNM. It was a tense moment, everything was quiet, control vs control, I was about to mana leak, thought about it.. and farted. Then mana leaked.
You're kidding me right? This is broken as is. Like, other than the +1 in CMC, this makes Liliana look absolutely terrible. The only thing she would have going for her is the ability to use her +1 to your advantage, and that's terrible compared to physical card advantage.
I dont think he's broken, JTMS was broken because he took over the game. i put this "sorin" on the same power level as...Sarkhan the mad. In a format filled with sword of FoF, wurmcoil, and olivia. his -2 with 3 loyalty seems...meh. But its whatever, we are arguing over a card that doesnt exist.
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Giant Growth: Yeah, Richard! You make those "3-of-something-for-1-mana" cards!
Healing Salve: Go, Richard! Keep that cycle going!
Lightning Bolt: Wow, dude, that's really powerful. Make sure to keep this common-appropriate!
Dark Ritual: What are you doing? That's obviously better than the other three!
Ancestral Recall: Seriously? You want us to make this a common? Really?
Wow, this card is really really good. Might be legit. But I'm sure someone who can tell the difference between photoshopped pixels would be able to spot if this is a fake.
I dont think he's broken, JTMS was broken because he took over the game. i put this "sorin" on the same power level as...Sarkhan the mad. In a format filled with sword of FoF, wurmcoil, and olivia. his -2 with 3 loyalty seems...meh. But its whatever, we are arguing over a card that doesnt exist.
What?
"Oh no, my phyrexian arena can't kill olivia and doesn't get full value if they have a 6 mana creature"
Although this looks real, it looks very real, i compared it to a picture of lilianna from innistrad. The only think that i could see different between them were 2 things, the first being no popping from the back into the fram, such as lilly was. The second was the corners of the card text frames compared to the black borders; they were very close to the black borders and once were even cut off slightly.
I do like this card alot however as; it shows affinity for vampires, uses 13 as a theme in itself, something that was seen in innistrad.
However, if the 13 damage is done to every player and creatures the opponent(s) controls it seems extreamly powerfull at that, but to gain the exact amount dealt would be absolutley rediculous.
i also do not like the mono black cmc that goes along with him, id love to see him 2 colors, tired of mono planeswalkers (garruk relelntless is mono in my eye)
Also, here is an idea, we have been shown i think 3 different card arts for sorin, and i feel like theyre going to make him a dfc, one side possibly white/black the other red/black. It would be interesting to say the least.
Overall, congratz to whoever made the card, they definatly put time and effort into it, and their hard work is being appreciated by me.
between the card number and the "wizards of the coast inc." is missing three letters: "LLC"
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Well actually inc. shouldnt even be on the card and it should just be llc, and as stated earlier michael komarck not kormack as mentioned earlier abilities are templated correctly from what i understand but the mess up on the trademarks line is enough i believe
There is no way this is real based on power level alone.
I don't know how anyone can think this isn't overpowered. It might not be another JTMS but its way too close for comfort.
I know this is fake, but how exactly is it overpowered?
Plus 1 and minus 2 seem fine. The ultimate is fine consider that it takes 4 plus 1 to activate it assuming that it hasn't been dealt damage in that 4 turns
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You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
I know this is fake, but how exactly is it overpowered?
Plus 1 and minus 2 seem fine. The ultimate is fine consider that it takes 4 plus 1 to activate it assuming that it hasn't been dealt damage in that 4 turns
+1, +1CA
-2, +1 CA
-7, +x CA
Even jace had 0 CA abilities.
This is clearly fake.
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Tantarus: It didn't make the gaka greifer level, so it should be fine
judge yourselfs.
Any basis for this thread or did you just randomly find this picture on FB?
edit: That said, undoubtedly fake.
BEtched Champion/InfectB
WSoilders/knightsW
WUVenser SplicerWU
RRDWR
GFeed the Pack comboG
WUPool of ExhaustionWU
EDH
GEzuri, Elf OverrunG
BGeth, GraverobberB
UThada Adel, ThiefU
RUrabrask, Big RedR
WElesh Norn, CrusadeW
WUGAngus Makenzie, Bant ControlWUG
Extended
WGElvesWG
Legacy
RGoblinsR
UBGFariesUBG
UBGRaffinityUBG
Not to sound a little cliche here, but he seems a lot like JtMS.
Card advantage? Check
Protection? Check
Game winning ultimate? Check
Interesting to say the least, but I doubt it is real.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=8122582#post8122582
i agree. Plus i hope its not real, if it is it's terribly designed. his starting loyalty should be higher if that are his +'s and -'s. Or make him 3cmc, cauese he doesnt feel like a 4 mana planeswalker.
Healing Salve: Go, Richard! Keep that cycle going!
Lightning Bolt: Wow, dude, that's really powerful. Make sure to keep this common-appropriate!
Dark Ritual: What are you doing? That's obviously better than the other three!
Ancestral Recall: Seriously? You want us to make this a common? Really?
..but let's see now..those abilities..
Yeah, I'm going to say fake simply for the fact that we don't need another Jace.
You're kidding me right? This is broken as is. Like, other than the +1 in CMC, this makes Liliana look absolutely terrible. The only thing she would have going for her is the ability to use her +1 to your advantage, and that's terrible compared to physical card advantage.
..honestly..it's basically a Phyrexian Arena (that can't kill you), attached to what will almost always be "Destroy target creature" and an ultimate that either wins the game, or makes it 100% impossible for your opponent to win.
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
Cheers
I dont think he's broken, JTMS was broken because he took over the game. i put this "sorin" on the same power level as...Sarkhan the mad. In a format filled with sword of FoF, wurmcoil, and olivia. his -2 with 3 loyalty seems...meh. But its whatever, we are arguing over a card that doesnt exist.
Healing Salve: Go, Richard! Keep that cycle going!
Lightning Bolt: Wow, dude, that's really powerful. Make sure to keep this common-appropriate!
Dark Ritual: What are you doing? That's obviously better than the other three!
Ancestral Recall: Seriously? You want us to make this a common? Really?
Also, the ultimate is absurd for such a low cost.
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UWRGModern Saheeli CobraGRWU
UBRGLegacy StormGRBU
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What?
"Oh no, my phyrexian arena can't kill olivia and doesn't get full value if they have a 6 mana creature"
just curious, what do you mean by "no picture overlap"?
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI do like this card alot however as; it shows affinity for vampires, uses 13 as a theme in itself, something that was seen in innistrad.
However, if the 13 damage is done to every player and creatures the opponent(s) controls it seems extreamly powerfull at that, but to gain the exact amount dealt would be absolutley rediculous.
i also do not like the mono black cmc that goes along with him, id love to see him 2 colors, tired of mono planeswalkers (garruk relelntless is mono in my eye)
Also, here is an idea, we have been shown i think 3 different card arts for sorin, and i feel like theyre going to make him a dfc, one side possibly white/black the other red/black. It would be interesting to say the least.
Overall, congratz to whoever made the card, they definatly put time and effort into it, and their hard work is being appreciated by me.
every planeswalker card except nissa has had a part of their art protrude out (usually their head) overlapping the card border.
err also, Michael Komarck is misspelled. PROOF
All but Nissa I believe has had some part of their art protruding the boarder a bit. It gives a small, yet dynamic feel to the card.
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UWRGModern Saheeli CobraGRWU
UBRGLegacy StormGRBU
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Well actually inc. shouldnt even be on the card and it should just be llc, and as stated earlier michael komarck not kormack as mentioned earlier abilities are templated correctly from what i understand but the mess up on the trademarks line is enough i believe
EDH:
UBGMimeoplasm (Reanimator Control)
WGBURProgenitus (Dream Halls//Good Stuff)
RNorin, the Wary (Metaddited Gaka List)
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I don't know how anyone can think this isn't overpowered. It might not be another JTMS but its way too close for comfort.
Plus 1 and minus 2 seem fine. The ultimate is fine consider that it takes 4 plus 1 to activate it assuming that it hasn't been dealt damage in that 4 turns
You know back in the old days, when there wasn't EDH, these "griefer" cards in decks were the norm. If you played a Winter Orb when you're opponents were tapped out, it was a good play. Now, you get people tell you they wanna punch you ? It's really sad how carebare this format is, to the point that some loser has to rip up your cards.
+1, +1CA
-2, +1 CA
-7, +x CA
Even jace had 0 CA abilities.
This is clearly fake.
EDH:
RNorin the WaryR <-Link! (Primer - Mono Red Control)
GUEdric, Spymaster of TrestUG <- Link! (Mini-Primer - Dredge)
Duel Commander:
WUGeist of Saint TraftUW <- Link! (Aggro-Control)
BGSkullbriar, the Walking GraveGB <- Link! (Aggro)
BUGDamia, Sage of StoneGUB <- Link! (Extinction Control)
Church of the Wary