I am a little disappointing to see that he has just as much starting loyalty as before. But, as I explained in my comic, I he really is my favorite 'walker, so I forgive him
So its:
+2
0
-1
-12
Man I was WAAY off.
It IS pretty hot that the unsummon is only -1. TAKE THAT creatures!
ROFL, you are trying to educate me? just because English is not my first language doesn't mean i am uneducated you prick, when you go study to become a genetic researcher or a brain surgeon amd succeed in it you can come and diss me with how smart you are okay? this is freaking card game forum, not cambridge university.
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wow.... I'm a bit shocked...the first ability alone can singlehandedly cut an opponent off of gas, this is just too much. brainstorm every turn...+1 card advantage and filtering? this might actually see legacy play...
That's insane ! If someone had submitted something that powerful to the FCC back in good old days it would have been heavily marked down.
i always look at PWs as someone always having a way to get rid of it after u only use it once and I believe R&D does as well to judge how good a PW is and 2UU for Brainstorm or Fateseal/Scry isn't that great. But that's just my way of looking at it
Wow, that is just amazing. 0 for continuous Brainstorms as long as you can defend it!?
All they need to do now is print several good tempo cards for blue and I can sleeve up control after worldwake.
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This is just crazy! Kudos to all those who thought Brainstorm cost 0!
It's not insanely broken. It's very good. There's a difference.
But when I say "very good," I do mean it. This is the kind of card control needs (oh, and reprint Counterspell already).
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Wooo! such a perfect fit for UWr control with 8 fetches and Wall of denials. This Jace is a CA HOUSE!!! I don't see anyone playing old jace except for the howling mine effect.
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Jacerator is an aggro deck - it just wins by attacking the library, it doesn't really control the board other than to play a few Fogs
really should have gone with +1 on the brainstorm ability, would've made it a really good card. As it stands the first ability on him is extremely weak, particularly in an environment with so many shuffle affects. the unsummon is especially weak because you can't do it at instant speed and your opponent knows its on the table and can therefore plan ahead.
wow i was wrong about the 0 holy crap. this is retarded haha ok well brainstorm for 0 cool i'm not complaining that's cool i also didn't think the word return was going to fit in the text spot was kinda wrong about that but i was completely right when i guessed the ult! haha
Ok well in speculation of the card i hope everyone likes scrying for one for four turns before we can use an ult! ugghh this is gonna suck lol. Actually this jace is good, he's not over powered which i like but for EDH he will probably be banned or they will restrict his power for other formats yay let's see another $15-$20 card for control! although i'm very happy he's in a small set so we will see more of him which i hope is good?
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Modern: Bant Geist-WUG
Legacy: Reanimator-UB-WRG
EDH:
Ramirez DePietro: Pirate Themed-UB
Riku of Two Reflections: "Oops I Win"-URG
really should have gone with +1 on the brainstorm ability, would've made it a really good card. As it stands the first ability on him is extremely weak, particularly in an environment with so many shuffle affects. the unsummon is especially weak because you can't do it at instant speed and your opponent knows its on the table and can therefore plan ahead.
Last ability is crazy but you'll never get there.
Cmon man, you gotta be joking. +1 on brainstorm and it puts him outta bolt range. +1 would be wayyy to good. Im happy its 0.
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No. You need to understand the power of a FREE brainstorm WITHOUT a card loss each turn.
Control is back. Hard.
I understand it just fine. I also understand how hard it's gonna be to make him stick in an aggro-heavy environment, not to mention that I also understand the concept of "broken."
Like I said, very good.
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So its:
+2
0
-1
-12
Man I was WAAY off.
It IS pretty hot that the unsummon is only -1. TAKE THAT creatures!
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i always look at PWs as someone always having a way to get rid of it after u only use it once and I believe R&D does as well to judge how good a PW is and 2UU for Brainstorm or Fateseal/Scry isn't that great. But that's just my way of looking at it
because that makes me sad
I can't wait for Friday so I can put the whole picture in the new of my comic
All they need to do now is print several good tempo cards for blue and I can sleeve up control after worldwake.
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This is just crazy! Kudos to all those who thought Brainstorm cost 0!
But when I say "very good," I do mean it. This is the kind of card control needs (oh, and reprint Counterspell already).
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broken card is broken . . . so much WIN.
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Last ability is crazy but you'll never get there.
EDH:
Niv-Mizzet
Legacy:
The Rack
Modern
Venser, the Sojourner Control
Tezzeret is still stronger, especially in older formats, but this one is a close second and miles ahead of Elspeth
No. You need to understand the power of a FREE brainstorm WITHOUT a card loss each turn.
Control is back. Hard.
With Fetchlands and Coatl, UG Draw-Grow will rule the roost.
Ok well in speculation of the card i hope everyone likes scrying for one for four turns before we can use an ult! ugghh this is gonna suck lol. Actually this jace is good, he's not over powered which i like but for EDH he will probably be banned or they will restrict his power for other formats yay let's see another $15-$20 card for control! although i'm very happy he's in a small set so we will see more of him which i hope is good?
Modern: Bant Geist-WUG
Legacy: Reanimator-UB-WRG
EDH:
Ramirez DePietro: Pirate Themed-UB
Riku of Two Reflections: "Oops I Win"-URG
PS. Was I first on calling 0 for an ability?
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Cmon man, you gotta be joking. +1 on brainstorm and it puts him outta bolt range. +1 would be wayyy to good. Im happy its 0.
but his ultimate is obviously out of realistic gameplay- turn 8 at the earliest, and all you get to do with him is fateseal 1?
I understand it just fine. I also understand how hard it's gonna be to make him stick in an aggro-heavy environment, not to mention that I also understand the concept of "broken."
Like I said, very good.