One guy can't get to the Toronto store (401 Games) until about 10:30 - about 1/2 hour at least. Everyone else can't go because they have exams or work . . . obviously these individuals do NOT have thier priorities right.
LOL. You are so so right sir. Alright one half hour. Or so. I should be able to make that...
edit: @Koopa: It has already been confirmed via the text in the japanese portion that the numbers are indeed 3 and 2. Please bother to read at least some of the thread before you post.
None of his abilities will cost 0 people get over it.
This unconfirmed bounce ability *PLEASE LOOK AT THE TEXT SPACE FOR THE WORD WHERE "Return" would have to go (based on the starting spot of other text on the card) and where the word "target" is it is TOO LITTLE SPACE to have the word "Return" in there just look at the card and line up the start of the text please do it before we assume the ability is unsummon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ROFL, you are trying to educate me? just because English is not my first language doesn't mean i am uneducated you prick, when you go study to become a genetic researcher or a brain surgeon amd succeed in it you can come and diss me with how smart you are okay? this is freaking card game forum, not cambridge university.
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Comparing the power of unsummon to other -2 effects, such as Vampiric Tutor (without the life loss), lightning Helix, and other powerful -1 effects such as 3/3 tokens, I don't agree that unsummon "needs" to be -2. It isn't powerful enough to justify -2.
It is, however, a perfectly fine -1.
Ajani doesn't have a +2 ability or 4 different abilities and he's multicolored. His Helix is -2 even though he only has a +1 to feed it.
I'm willing to bet Unsummon is -2 at least since Jace has a +2 to feed it.
This unconfirmed bounce ability *PLEASE LOOK AT THE TEXT SPACE FOR THE WORD WHERE "Return" would have to go (based on the starting spot of other text on the card) and where the word "target" is it is TOO LITTLE SPACE to have the word "Return" in there just look at the card and line up the start of the text please do it before we assume the ability is unsummon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa! I was just there yesterday! Must've missed Jace as he was passing through. Either that or he wiped himself from my memory. Just like Santa Claus.
Looks like I'll be swinging by again today.
Incidentally, the Olympic Torch will be downtown at Nathan Phillips @ 5:30.
They never made a 4 ability planeswalker either so what's your point?
Templating has nothing to do with innovation or design space. They could make a 50 ability planeswalker, they'd still fit it into the way that they have decided planeswalkers are going to be templated.
None of his abilities will cost 0 people get over it.
This unconfirmed bounce ability *PLEASE LOOK AT THE TEXT SPACE FOR THE WORD WHERE "Return" would have to go (based on the starting spot of other text on the card) and where the word "target" is it is TOO LITTLE SPACE to have the word "Return" in there just look at the card and line up the start of the text please do it before we assume the ability is unsummon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No it's unsummon. Check the other languages. "une creature" "retournez" seal the deal in my eyes.
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Whoa! I was just there yesterday! Must've missed Jace as he was passing through. Either that or he wiped himself from my memory. Just like Santa Claus.
Looks like I'll be swinging by again today.
Incidentally, the Olympic Torch will be downtown at Nathan Phillips @ 5:30.
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And figures that no one around here has even gone to 401 yet, jeff would most likely charge you to look at the card anyways
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Still more to reveal, but even with what has been spoiled so far, I am chomping at the bit to get a set of this one for my UW control deck. 4 abilities, one of which likes to be Brainstorm, the other Opt, the third Unsummon (has to be -1, really), and the last not so sure on, but short of lacking some kind of counterspell ability he basically is the essence of Blue, finely distilled into a single card. Beauty.
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Templating has nothing to do with innovation or design space. They could make a 50 ability planeswalker, they'd still fit it into the way that they have decided planeswalkers are going to be templated.
Maybe so, but I will still lol at all of you if they decide to change that.
But I do agree that it wouldn't be good for the look of the card.
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ROFL, you are trying to educate me? just because English is not my first language doesn't mean i am uneducated you prick, when you go study to become a genetic researcher or a brain surgeon amd succeed in it you can come and diss me with how smart you are okay? this is freaking card game forum, not cambridge university.
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Still more to reveal, but even with what has been spoiled so far, I am chomping at the bit to get a set of this one for my UW control deck. 4 abilities, one of which likes to be Brainstorm, the other Opt, the third Unsummon (has to be -1, really), and the last not so sure on, but short of lacking some kind of counterspell ability he basically is the essence of Blue, finely distilled into a single card. Beauty.
Yeah, which was always a disappointing thing about the original Jace. Definitely a cool, exciting card.
I don't know about that. I'm sure by the time I get there, it'll already be online as I'm aiming to be downtown by 3:30 to beat the crowds. The crowds will still probably beat me, but I've got errands to run. I'm certain the portion of Jace will be up by that time, but I'm already bringing a camera for the Torch, so who knows.
I suppose I could trade those things. Trade me your alpha duals, your beta Shivan Dragons, and your moxen!
It is. Apparently no one has gone to the store to get it. And they can't release it in any other form until someone does.
I can't really give anybody grief for that, it is in the middle of a workday for most people....I can however hope and hope somebody gets off for lunch and runs over and asks
LOL. You are so so right sir. Alright one half hour. Or so. I should be able to make that...
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I wasn't trying to be rude, I apologize if it came off that way. You modified your post as I hit reply and I didn't see the text had changed.
This unconfirmed bounce ability *PLEASE LOOK AT THE TEXT SPACE FOR THE WORD WHERE "Return" would have to go (based on the starting spot of other text on the card) and where the word "target" is it is TOO LITTLE SPACE to have the word "Return" in there just look at the card and line up the start of the text please do it before we assume the ability is unsummon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They never made a 4 ability planeswalker either so what's your point?
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Ajani doesn't have a +2 ability or 4 different abilities and he's multicolored. His Helix is -2 even though he only has a +1 to feed it.
I'm willing to bet Unsummon is -2 at least since Jace has a +2 to feed it.
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Looks like I'll be swinging by again today.
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Unsummon is in Conflux for a single blue mana for a reason....I'm willing to bet that its going to be -1.
As for a 0 Brainstorm, we're all hoping, but odds are it's not gonna happen, that just screams unbalanced.
Templating has nothing to do with innovation or design space. They could make a 50 ability planeswalker, they'd still fit it into the way that they have decided planeswalkers are going to be templated.
No it's unsummon. Check the other languages. "une creature" "retournez" seal the deal in my eyes.
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To be fair, Tez can activate for 0 and put a Lotus Bloom into play. That's not much more broken than paying 0 for brainstorm or unsummon.
Maybe so, but I will still lol at all of you if they decide to change that.
But I do agree that it wouldn't be good for the look of the card.
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Sorry, I didn't have enough emphasis on slightly... and by "slightly" I meant, completely outclasses.
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Yeah, which was always a disappointing thing about the original Jace. Definitely a cool, exciting card.
At least according to our local forums. http://www.mtgontario.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=15
It's only been an hour since they've opened but it seems most of us live in the GTA and places not Toronto and others are too lazy to go there.
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Yea, but then again, that's extended...
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Not in standard he can't. And I don't see this card having been designed with type 1 in mind.
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I don't know about that. I'm sure by the time I get there, it'll already be online as I'm aiming to be downtown by 3:30 to beat the crowds. The crowds will still probably beat me, but I've got errands to run. I'm certain the portion of Jace will be up by that time, but I'm already bringing a camera for the Torch, so who knows.
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It is. Apparently no one has gone to the store to get it. And they can't release it in any other form until someone does.
It's because us Toronto players are a lazy bunch and the TTC sucks.
I would totally be going if it weren't the fact that it would be the only reason to go downtown since FNM is tommorrow.
It is likely that the piece will be posted on this forum first: http://www.mtgontario.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7533&postdays=0&postorder=asc&&start=15
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I can't really give anybody grief for that, it is in the middle of a workday for most people....I can however hope and hope somebody gets off for lunch and runs over and asks