At the store I went, the occurrence of getting twice a given rare or mythic was incredibly high. I went on Sunday and at that time people expected to get double rares, those who didn't were the exception. We were about 30-40 players, and it was crazy. I saw
Got triple Serpopard in my prelease Pack (one was Promo card), went 4-1, lost to guy who cast Mind Twist 3 Times in 3 Games (once per game). I saw double Bontu Pack and double Glorybringer Pack. On sunday we were playing 2HG, my friend from opposite team got 2 Gideons and Attrition in his prepack, and my teammate got 2 Hydra's
It not like that at every prerelease. No one got a lot of double at my prerelease on Saturday and people that played the midnight run said the pulls where mostly like normal. It just due to randomness.
Just one prerelease isn't enough to claim every prerelease is having the same results.
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That said, it was much, much worse with the Commons and Uncommons: I got 4 Shimmerscale Drake and 3 Trial of Ambition in a single pre-release pack, with my friend getting 4 Tormenting Voice. It seems we often got 3-4 of certain commons in most packs.
Someone got two Glyph Keepers in his pack. Needless to say, he went undefeated. I don't think I kept terribly close track of any other double rares, but it did seem to happen more often than usual.
The only double I saw was an Angel of Sanctions, and a foil angel in the same booster pack. He didn't end up playing white, though.
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Now that you mention it, at midnight I pulled double Angel of Sanctions, and Saturday I pulled double Plague Belcher, double Soul-Scar Mage, and double Mouth Feed all in one kit. My friends pulled double Rhonas as well.
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I saw double Nissa, double mentor, double scar mage pack, double drake enchantment pack, double mana producing girl pack, double cycling land packs and a couple more.
But in that case the second was always promo or foil
Well, this saves me the trouble of making a new thread.
I had a very similar experience at my two prereleases. When I came back, I posted on /r/magicTCG with my findings. Within a few hours, the mods removed my post without notifying me. Sent them a message, but it's been a day and they haven't responded. Anyway, here's my original Reddit post:
I just came back from two prereleases, and I'm wondering if anyone noticed a high number of rares repeating in people's pools. We had about thirty people in our morning prerelease, and a little less in our afternoon one, and among those pools we had:
- Two people pull two [[Gideon of the Trials]]
- The same person pull two [[Dread Wanderer]]s for both his pools
- One person pull two [[Harvest Season]]s
- Two people pull two [[Nissa, Steward of Elements]]
- One person pull two [[Liliana, Death's Majesty]]s
- One person pull two [[Combat Celebrant]]s
- Myself, I had the dubious pleasure of pulling two [[Glorious End]]s, as did someone sitting next to me in the afternoon.
Worth noting that this doesn't include promos. For what it's worth, I played against someone with a promo and non-promo [[Hazoret the Fervent]], as well as someone with a promo and non-promo [[Approach of the Second Sun]] (lost to that once, ain't even mad). Also sat next to someone with a promo and non-promo [[Glory-Bound Initiate]].
Nor is this an exhaustive list, or just me paying attention to the most jubilant people. Of my eight matches, I played against both double Nissas, the double Lilianas, and the double Celebrants; all mythics.
(Also worth noting that someone noticed duplicate non-foil commons in one of their packs. Not sure which one it was, though).
I realize that every set we get "DAE THINK WOTC SEEDS PRERELEASE PACKS" posts. I'm not talking about people pulling lots of mythics or money cards, I'm talking specifically about rares/mythics being duplicated within the same pool. Maybe it's a collation issue, a la Eldritch Moon (no idea what the art on each booster was, sorry)? And yes, I realize that our one store could just be an outlier. That's why I'm asking here, to see if anyone else had the same experience.
(Maybe if I've got time tomorrow I'll analyze the odds of 50-60 players having 11+ repeats in a set with 53 rares and 15 mythics, see if we beat the null hypothesis. No objections to p=0.05?)
EDIT: I did the math (I can transcribe it here if need be, but it will be ugly ugly LaTeX), and discovered the following:
- The probability of someone opening two (or more) of the same mythic in their six packs is 0.0152 (low, but not *super* low)
- The probability (under the null hypothesis) of 8+ people in a prerelease of 60 people doing so is 3.67E-6
- You can expect results like these every 272559 prereleases of 60 people, needing over sixteen million people.
So yeah, I'd say there's enough evidence to think that something's fishy.
TL;DR: My prerelease had a statistically significant number of duplicated mythics, strong evidence of a collation issue.
Same. 2 Sandwurm Convergence (with no ramp in the pool, alas), and 2 promos in the same wrapper (also nothing good, but hey why not). Could be anecdotal, or there could be some issue with the pre-release packages.
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I can't understand how they achieved this distribution.
No doubles in my 2 or anybody else's that I noticed
Did see a lot of gods.
My second pre-release (2hg) had angel of sanctions promo, blue god, white god, and cryptic command though
Just one prerelease isn't enough to claim every prerelease is having the same results.
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That said, it was much, much worse with the Commons and Uncommons: I got 4 Shimmerscale Drake and 3 Trial of Ambition in a single pre-release pack, with my friend getting 4 Tormenting Voice. It seems we often got 3-4 of certain commons in most packs.
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But in that case the second was always promo or foil
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I had a very similar experience at my two prereleases. When I came back, I posted on /r/magicTCG with my findings. Within a few hours, the mods removed my post without notifying me. Sent them a message, but it's been a day and they haven't responded. Anyway, here's my original Reddit post:
TL;DR: My prerelease had a statistically significant number of duplicated mythics, strong evidence of a collation issue.