JOU its crappy expansion too ... WoTC make bad cards when he can create good cards ...
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Crap cards, too lower level at this point, i want some Zendikar/Ravnica/Inistrad power level, this is enchant-crap
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JOU's spoiled cards already indicate it's a better set than the first two. The new Merfolk is absurdly powerful; it's like having half a Jace (the good one) online on turn 1. Summoning sickness is too bad, and its the only downside to this card. Constellation mechanic promises some cards that do not focus around turning dudes sideways. Minotaur gets its 1 drop. Good set is good, so far.
Crap cards, too lower level at this point, i want some Zendikar/Ravnica/Inistrad power level, this is enchant-crap
Those were some of the most powerful sets we've had in a while, the power level needed to be toned down to avoid power creep and to stop players from feeling power-fatigued.
If you can't understand that after you've been told it so many times then you shouldn't be talking about it.
Same thing happened with Kamigawa when the previous block was Mirrodin. If every block was scaling upwards in power with no decline, we would be like Yugioh.
Theros? Absolutely not. Granted I was referring to eternal format impact. Bng was a little more like that with spirit of the labyrinth. I know it's given to a few decks but not nearly as many as kamigawa. Full disclosure though, I don't really take mono g devotion seriously in modern so I am pretty biased.
I'm a troll because of my opinion of mono g devotion in modern? It's a permanent based glass cannon that sees play because it isn't fantastically expensive on mgto. At least I'm being honest about my opinion and biases, disagree all you want. I do acknowledge the addition of thassa as a boost to merfolk, I just don't feel it's added as much as kamigawa and don't particularly hold the current meta in high regard. I don't necessarily agree with the topic title though, theros and bng are merely mediocre sets.
I'm a troll because of my opinion of mono g devotion in modern? It's a permanent based glass cannon that sees play because it isn't fantastically expensive on mgto. At least I'm being honest about my opinion and biases, disagree all you want. I do acknowledge the addition of thassa as a boost to merfolk, I just don't feel it's added as much as kamigawa and don't particularly hold the current meta in high regard. I don't necessarily agree with the topic title though, theros and bng are merely mediocre sets.
Georg51 was referring to the original poster, blacklotus. And I agree, to me it was obvious from the beginning.
I think this shaping up to be one of my favorite blocks of all time. But that's for EDH and 60-card casual rather than Standard, which I don't play anymore.
Theros? Absolutely not. Granted I was referring to eternal format impact. Bng was a little more like that with spirit of the labyrinth. I know it's given to a few decks but not nearly as many as kamigawa. Full disclosure though, I don't really take mono g devotion seriously in modern so I am pretty biased.
Yeah, Kamigawa was a lot more powerful than Theros (it had Top, Blazing Shoal, Glimpse of Nature, and Jitte).
I am very glad that this set is actually tying the whole block together, if they had gone the whole block without andy decent enchantment support I would have been very disappointed, however with Constellation it seems that we are finally getting the good enchantment matters theme going and with the Eidolon of Blossoms spoiled I am in the happy camp where I am content that there will be more good enchantment support cards in JOU. Granted yes the block as a whole is very low power, this I completely understand and do not mind, my main irritation was the lack of support which I was keeping my fingers crossed for in JOU, it seems so far that WoTC has delivered and so I am happy. Now for that Academy Ruins/Volrath's Stronghold for enchantments.....
I can't wait til the "JOU is the worst set of all time" thread!
Regardless if it is the worst set or not, BNG without a doubt is one of the worst sets of all time. Yet people went ahead with their "oh this thread again" when it was clearly a garbage set.
We're seventeen cards in, and I feel that Journey into Nyx is already better than Born of the Gods. I can already think of more applications for two cards of the Flash Dictate Cycle than the entire of the Fated Cycle from BnG.
Born of the Gods is probably in running for my "Weakest Non-Core Set Modern Set" rivaled by Dragon's Maze and losing to Saviors of Kamigawa.
I do like brimaz in my death and taxes build and spirit is my favorite kind of even playing field hate card. I liked the limited with bng way more and at least we got a taste of playable bestow cards in bng. It wasn't a great set but design was a hell of a lot better than theros. I really don't think theros had very many redeeming qualities as a set at all.
I don't think theros is a bad set. There are a ton of strong cards (Elspeth, Thoughtseize, hero's downfall, etc).
BNG on the other hand is worse than DGM in my opinion. At least DGM had voice. Brimaz comes nowhere close to the power level of voice.
JOU already has 1 broken card (Dakra Mystic). The gods seem better than their BNG counterparts theoretically. If we get a good planeswalker and 2-3 decent mythics, it could be a decent set.
RW R/W Burn WB B/W TokensXU MonuU Tron // UWX UW Tron
R GoblinsW Soul SistersRWG Small ZooWUR WUR Geist/Control/Kiki-Resto Combo/NahiriUR Splinter Twin (90% Japanese)/ Grixis TwinRUB UR Delver / Grixis Delver UR Blue MoonBWU Ad NauseamWDeath and TaxesRUB Grixis ControlUMerfolksX Affinity RGB Living End UR Storm/PiF Combo RGX R/G TRON GWU Bant Eldrazi BW Eldrazi and Taxes RUBGoryos Vengeance UB Faeries
Legacy:BRx Renimator
Playing right now: Standard: Jeskai Control Modern; GoryosVengeance/UBFaeries/Affinity Legacy: BRx Reanimator Pauper: UR Drake (banned) Commander: Merieke Ri Berit Esper
RW R/W Burn WB B/W TokensXU MonuU Tron // UWX UW Tron
R GoblinsW Soul SistersRWG Small ZooWUR WUR Geist/Control/Kiki-Resto Combo/NahiriUR Splinter Twin (90% Japanese)/ Grixis TwinRUB UR Delver / Grixis Delver UR Blue MoonBWU Ad NauseamWDeath and TaxesRUB Grixis ControlUMerfolksX Affinity RGB Living End UR Storm/PiF Combo RGX R/G TRON GWU Bant Eldrazi BW Eldrazi and Taxes RUBGoryos Vengeance UB Faeries
Legacy:BRx Renimator
Playing right now: Standard: Jeskai Control Modern; GoryosVengeance/UBFaeries/Affinity Legacy: BRx Reanimator Pauper: UR Drake (banned) Commander: Merieke Ri Berit Esper
Those were some of the most powerful sets we've had in a while, the power level needed to be toned down to avoid power creep and to stop players from feeling power-fatigued.
If you can't understand that after you've been told it so many times then you shouldn't be talking about it.
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That sounds exactly like Theros.
Georg51 was referring to the original poster, blacklotus. And I agree, to me it was obvious from the beginning.
Yeah, Kamigawa was a lot more powerful than Theros (it had Top, Blazing Shoal, Glimpse of Nature, and Jitte).
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Only 17 cards have been spoiled. And either way it is better than DGM or BNG.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
And so it begins...
Let's just be glad that no one has created a thread for it yet.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
Decks:
Standard:
Gruul aggro
Modern:
MonoG infect
Edh:
Nekusar, Too bad you have to discard your deck at the end step.
Casual:
I'm trying to make tibalt work guys!
Dimir mill
I'll have you know when I saw Phenax spoiled,
I cried for only 20 minutes.
Like all bad movies, their trailers show all the good stuff.
UR Melek, Izzet ParagonUR, B Shirei, Shizo's CaretakerB, R Jaya Ballard, Task MageR,RW Tajic, Blade of the LegionRW, UB Lazav, Dimir MastermindUB, UB Circu, Dimir LobotomistUB, RWU Zedruu the GreatheartedRWU, GUBThe MimeoplasmGUB, UGExperiment Kraj UG, WDarien, King of KjeldorW, BMarrow-GnawerB, WBGKarador, Ghost ChieftainWBG, UTeferi, Temporal ArchmageU, GWUDerevi, Empyrial TacticianGWU, RDaretti, Scrap SavantR, UTalrand, Sky SummonerU, GEzuri, Renegade LeaderG, WUBRGReaper KingWUBRG, RGXenagos, God of RevelsRG, CKozilek, Butcher of TruthC, WUBRGGeneral TazriWUBRG, GTitania, Protector of ArgothG
Regardless if it is the worst set or not, BNG without a doubt is one of the worst sets of all time. Yet people went ahead with their "oh this thread again" when it was clearly a garbage set.
Born of the Gods is probably in running for my "Weakest Non-Core Set Modern Set" rivaled by Dragon's Maze and losing to Saviors of Kamigawa.
BNG on the other hand is worse than DGM in my opinion. At least DGM had voice. Brimaz comes nowhere close to the power level of voice.
JOU already has 1 broken card (Dakra Mystic). The gods seem better than their BNG counterparts theoretically. If we get a good planeswalker and 2-3 decent mythics, it could be a decent set.