So I have a case (USA), but the store is low on supply so I grabbed the two boxes. If we count from 1-3 on the top row, with the box orientated towards you so you can read "Magic the Gathering" right side up and 1 being closest to you, I grabbed 1 and 2.
Here were the pack art (initials of the guilds each respective pack has i.e. Orzohv = O) orders with the top-bottom going left to right, and right-left going top down (top row = right stack of packs).
Box 1:
B | S | G | D | O | S | O | G | D | B | S | G
S | D | B | O | G | D | G | B | O | S | D | B
D | O | S | G | B | O | B | S | G | D | O | S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
There were some row shifts so the final configuration was:
2 3 4 1 5 6 8 9 10 7 11 12
-----> ------>
I’ve never done this before, so please bear with me! I bought my first booster box today and I figured I’d help out the war effort, so to speak. Here’s what mine looked like first:
As you can see, in column 9 (from the left), there is a 5 (Duskmantle Guildmage) where a 1 (Boros Guildmage) should be. Also, column 1 is where column 7 is right now. I made those changes and ended up with:
Alright, I went through and mapped a few of the recent posts and added them to the Track list in the original post. Some are nearing completion. For those of you who have sent in boxes, thank you. Every box helps. The explanations as to what you think happened to the box do help. I managed to find a third sequence of tracks out of the last few boxes.
Keep sending your boxes in, guys. We're almost there.
Box made in USA (purchased in Australia)
(out of fear of screwing it up, I didn't reorder the packs at all, this is directly as they came out of the box)
(4) Lord of the Void
(1) Crypt Ghast
(2) Soul Ransom
(5) Sepulchral Primordial
(3) Treasury Thrull
(1) Prime Speaker Zegana
(2) Alms beast
(4) Sacred Foundry
(5) Biovisionary
(3) Merciless Eviction
(1) Five Alarm Fire
(4) Consuming Aberration *not 100% sure about the wrapper on this one.
(4) Lord of the Void
(1) Crypt Ghast
(2) Soul Ransom
(5) Sepulchral Primordial
(3) Treasury Thrull
(1) Prime Speaker Zegana
(2) Alms beast
(4) Sacred Foundry
(5) Biovisionary
(3) Merciless Eviction
(1) Five Alarm Fire
(4) Consuming Aberration *not 100% sure about the wrapper on this one.
Middle:
Lord of the Void
Breeding Pool
Boros Reckoner (Naturalize)
Unexpected Results (Gateway Shade)
Signal the Clans
Firemane Avenger
Clan Defiance
Stolen Identity
Assemble the Legion
Frontline Medic
Gruul Ragebeast (Forest)
Consuming Aberration
Macius, if you could record the barcode number or guild on the front of each pack associated with the rare from that pack, it would really help me out. I'm almost done with the Tracks and a case with barcode numbers would be super helpful in finishing them. Regardless, thanks for your contribution.
Alright, the Tracks have been updated again. You might be able to start using some of them to map, if you don't mind the risk.
Alright, the Tracks have been updated again. You might be able to start using some of them to map, if you don't mind the risk.
Awesome work SynthesisB, I wasn't sure about my A track until yu posted another track distribution, it all seems to make sense now. We only need few boxes now to complete the gaps, but it looks great so far.
My box is coming on Tue/Wed so I will be happy to sacrifice it in order to try to map it using the tracks
@Vinzito: Do you have any estimated time when you will release your application for GTC?
@SynthesisB: Holy wow, you've been busy. Excellent work!
@pawel_dom: Hopefully soon if there aren't any major complications. I'm been working on the new versions. Which include a sleeve map for calculating the row shifts and pack removals (much faster) rather than brute force attempts, a walkthrough, and a few other things based off feedback I've received. That should be done very soon and I will immediately start on GTC. It's just especially important for the GTC app to include the new features, so I have to finish those first.
Also the sleeve information that has been posted so far has been very helpful. Especially with the changes that have been made to this set.
To update my earlier post. I think there are definitely three, possibly more sequences in use. The one we have seen used since Innistrad, plus the one I posted a few pages back, and then I have been able to pick out another one as well, but I need to do more work to figure it out exactly. Anyway, from the data that fits with the sequences I know do exist, here are all four tracks as best I could figure. There may be a few spots in which a couple cards may be flipped (and the Shock Trooper in the middle of track C was very elusive and could be a spot or two wrong).
Track A
Aurelia's Fury
Consuming Aberration
Godless Shrine
Deathpact Angel
Soul Ransom
Aurelia, the Warleader
Duskmantle Seer
Stolen Identity
Prime Speaker Zegana
Glaring Spotlight
Domri Rade
Giant Adephage
Soul Ransom
Whispering Madness
Aurelia, the Warleader
Consuming Aberration
Lazav
Hellkite Tyrant
Master Biomancer
Lord of the Void
Whispering Madness
Mind Grind
Enter the Infinite
Domri Rade
Consuming Aberration
Soul Ransom
Godless Shrine
Duskmantle Seer
Glaring Spotlight
Whispering Madness
Enter the Infinite
Borborygmos
Mind Grind
Aurelia's Fury
Godless Shrine
Giant Adephage
Master Biomancer
Glaring Spotlight
Ozbedat
Consuming Aberration
Deathpact Angel
Hellkite Tyrant
Borborygmos
Whispering Madness
Gideon
Ozbedat
Mind Grind
Godless Shrine
Lazav
Lord of the Void
Soul Ransom
Gideon
Prime Speaker Zegana
Mind Grind
Glaring Spotlight
Watery Grave
Alms Beast
Realmwright
Angelic Skirmisher
Immortal Servitude
Treasury Thrull
Signal the Clans
Undercity Plague
Five-Alarm Fire
Gruul Ragebeast
Alms Beast
Angelic Skirmisher
Thespian's Stage
Signal the Clans
Rubblebelt Raiders
Spark Trooper
Clan Defiance
Watery Grave
Gruul Ragebeast
Realmwright
Treasury Thrull
Rubblehulk
Thespian's Stage
Alms Beast
High Priest of Penance
Five-Alarm Fire
Watery Grave
Spark Trooper
Undercity Plague
Clan Defiance
Alms Beast
Ooze Flux
Rubblehulk
Realmwright
Rubblebelt Raiders
Thespian's Stage
Gruul Ragebeast
Treasury Thrull
Watery Grave
Immortal Servitude
Five-Alarm Fire
Clan Defiance
Ooze Flux
High Priest of Penance
Treasury Thrull
Undercity Plague
Rubblehulk
Angelic Skirmisher
Clan Defiance
Thespian's Stage
Immortal Servitude
Realmwright
High Priest of Penance
Gruul Ragebeast
Ooze Flux
Signal the Clans
Five-Alarm Fire
Rubblehulk
Rubblebelt Raiders
Undercity Plague
Immortal Servitude
Ooze Flux
Angelic Skirmisher
Signal the Clans
High Priest of Penance
Rubblebelt Raiders
To me, the hardest part of mapping Gatecrash practically will be the quickness you can determine which sequence the box is on and then hoping it doesn't do something odd when the sequence ends (like skip cards, start a new sequence, etc).
To me, the hardest part of mapping Gatecrash practically will be the quickness you can determine which sequence the box is on and then hoping it doesn't do something odd when the sequence ends (like skip cards, start a new sequence, etc).
mtggo, great work!
Multiple sequences could be a nightmare. Any idea if the sequences are tied to region of manufacture?
Also, is there any evidence of sequence changing mid-box? (ie- one sequence ends and then a different one begins)
I believe each of the three sequences I have seen are from USA boxes, quite possibly they can even from the same case, but I am not 100% sure on that (I was less than thorough when collecting the data and didn't bother trying to record any of that).
There are some boxes in which the known sequence ends and then whatever happens next isn't anticipated, but the cards from each track still progress as expected throughout the box. So you can wind up knowing what is in the box, but you won't know exactly where. Meaning you will open a lot more packs than you'll want to. Maybe with enough data it can be figured out how to anticipate the changes, but so far I am at a loss.
I figured the pattern was 3-2-1-5-4, but I didn't know whether (from the left) column 6 or column 7 was supposed to be in column 11 since both were identical; I just moved column 7 to column 11, and column 2 to column 6 to make:
@SynthesisB: Holy wow, you've been busy. Excellent work!
@pawel_dom: Hopefully soon if there aren't any major complications. I'm been working on the new versions. Which include a sleeve map for calculating the row shifts and pack removals (much faster) rather than brute force attempts, a walkthrough, and a few other things based off feedback I've received. That should be done very soon and I will immediately start on GTC. It's just especially important for the GTC app to include the new features, so I have to finish those first.
Also the sleeve information that has been posted so far has been very helpful. Especially with the changes that have been made to this set.
I would love to see the new app when it comes out. Do you have an idea ETA for us all to use?
To the headmasters of this project (SynthB, Vinzito):
Shouldn't be easier for all of us to use the collector number instead of the card name when posting the boxes? It certainly makes data input and possibly data process faster.
Also, what will it happen once we have solved this expansion? I understand you Vinzito wrote an App for iOS, but what about non-Apple users? Will someone post the "solved map" for us mere mortals to use? Windows app? Mac app? Android app?
I'll be posting 4 boxes of data as soon as I finish opening them, which should be fairly soon (using Vinzito's method of row fixing).
To the headmasters of this project (SynthB, Vinzito):
Shouldn't be easier for all of us to use the collector number instead of the card name when posting the boxes? It certainly makes data input and possibly data process faster.
Also, what will it happen once we have solved this expansion? I understand you Vinzito wrote an App for iOS, but what about non-Apple users? Will someone post the "solved map" for us mere mortals to use? Windows app? Mac app? Android app?
I'll be posting 4 boxes of data as soon as I finish opening them, which should be fairly soon (using Vinzito's method of row fixing).
This is what I do. Since everyone seems to like names, I just type in collector numbers and let excel do the work. Check out sheet 1 and sheet 2 of the first spreadsheet I posted (its also in the first post) to see how it works.
Here were the pack art (initials of the guilds each respective pack has i.e. Orzohv = O) orders with the top-bottom going left to right, and right-left going top down (top row = right stack of packs).
Box 1:
B | S | G | D | O | S | O | G | D | B | S | G
S | D | B | O | G | D | G | B | O | S | D | B
D | O | S | G | B | O | B | S | G | D | O | S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
There were some row shifts so the final configuration was:
2 3 4 1 5 6 8 9 10 7 11 12
-----> ------>
Right:
1. Rubblehulk
2. Glaring Spotlight
3. Foundry Champion
4. Gyre Sage
5. Immortal Servitude
6. Firemane Avenger
7. Assmeble the Legion
8. Fathom Mage
9. Hellkite Tyrant
10. Ogre Slumlord
11. Signal the Clans
12. Simic Manipulator
Middle:
1. Angelic Skirmisher
2. Clan Defiance
3. Obzedat, Ghost Council
4. Sylvan Primordial
5. Consuming Aberration
6. Deathpact Angel
7. Sacred Foundry
8. High Priest of Penance
9. Borborygmos Enraged
10. Luminate Primordial
11. Breeding Pool
12. Five-Alarm Fire
Left:
1. Master Biomancer
2. Stomping Grounds
3. Thespian's Stage
4. Nightveil Specter
5. Realmwright
6. Merciless Eviction
7. Illusionist's Bracers
8. Gruul Ragebeast
9. Ooze Flux
10. Whispering Madness
11. Sepulchral Primordial
12. Gideon, Champion of Justice
Box 2:
D O S B G S G B O D S B
B S G O D G D O S B G O
O G D S O D B S G O D S
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
There was a pack deletion on column 5 right above the Orzohv pack. Row shifting is as follows:
2 1 3 4 5 6 8 7 9 12 11 12
-> <--
Right:
1. Gideon, Champion of Justice
2. Obzedat, Ghost Council
3. Skarrg Goliath
4. Thespian's Stage
5. Godless Shrine
6. Boros Reckoner
7. Fathom Mage
8. Watery Grave
9. Sylvan Primordial
10. Nightveil Specter
11. Wrecking Ogre
12. Gideon, Champion of Justice
Middle:
1. Rubblehulk
2. Biomass Mutation
3. Stolen Identity
4. Alms Beast
5. Pack Deletion
6 Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
7. Luminate Primordial
8. Lord of the Void
9. Soul Ransom
10. Firemane Avenger
11. Undercity Plague
12. Prime Speaker Zegana
Left:
1. Legion Loyalist
2. Assemble the Legion
3. Stomping Grounds
4. Mind Grind
5. Frontline Medic
6. Five-Alarm Fire
7. Foundry Champion
8. Spark Trooper
9. Merciless Eviction
10. Ogre Slumlord
11. Clan Defiance
12. Alms Beast
In the pack the got shifted into the next row: Treasury Thrull
4 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 5
5 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1
1 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2
As you can see, in column 9 (from the left), there is a 5 (Duskmantle Guildmage) where a 1 (Boros Guildmage) should be. Also, column 1 is where column 7 is right now. I made those changes and ended up with:
1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 4 | 2 | 5
2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1
3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2
Where 5 is where Boros Guildmage should have been.
Alright, let’s do this!
Left:
3 Angelic Skirmisher
1 Clan Defiance
4 Soul Ransom
2 Foundry Champion
5 Godless Shrine
3 Duskmantle Seer (Swamp 261)
1 Molten Primordial
4 High Priest of Penance (Simic Manipulator)
3 Ooze Flux
1 Enter the Infinite
4 Nightveil Specter (Skygames)
2 Borborygmos Enraged
Center:
2 Rubblehulk (Shattering Blow)
5 Consuming Aberration
3 Skarrg Goliath
1 Fathom Mage
4 Immortal Servitude
2 Crypt Ghast
5 Firemane Avenger
3 Unexpected Results
2 Whispering Madness
5 Sepulchral Primordial (Wildwood Rebirth)
3 Biomass Mutation (Frenzied Tilling)
1 Five-Alarm Fire
Right:
1 Illusionist’s Bracers
4 Domri Rade
2 Breeding Pool
5 Thespian’s Stage (Daring Skyjek)
3 Diluvian Primordial (Island 259)
1 Realmwright
4 Wrecking Ogre
2 Mystic Genesis
5 (should be 1) Gruul Ragebeast
4 Ogre Slumlord
2 Signal the Clans
5 Sacred Foundry
Hope that helps!
Keep sending your boxes in, guys. We're almost there.
(out of fear of screwing it up, I didn't reorder the packs at all, this is directly as they came out of the box)
Left
(1) Spark Trooper (Dimir Charm)
(4) Nightveil Specter
(2) Luminate Primordial
(1) Soul Ransom
(3) Spark Trooper (Kingpin's Pet)
(4) Rubblehulk
(5) Consuming Aberration
(2) Wrecking Ogre
(5) Stomping Ground
(4) Gyre Sage
(2) Merciless Eviction
(3) Legion Loyalist
Middle
(5) Sylvan Primordial
(2) Fathom Mage (Wojek Halberdiers)
(1) Angelic Skirmisher
(4) Ogre Slumlord
(3) Signal the Clans
(3) Sacred Foundry (Mortus Strider)
(4) Watery Grave (Death's Approach)
(1) Sylvan Primordial
(4) Simic Manipulator
(3) Whispering Madness
(1) Aurelia, the Warleader
(2) Illusionist's Bracers (Ordruun Veteran)
Right
(4) Stolen Identity
(1) Diluvian Primordial (Boros Keyrune)
(5) Merciless Eviction
(3) Deathpact Angel
(2) Wrecking Ogre
(3) Domri Rade
(3) Five-Alarm Fire
(5) Sepulchral Primordial
(3) Thespian's Stage
(2) Nightveil Specter
(5) High Priest of Penance
(1) Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Boros Reckoner
High Priest of Penance
Duskmantle Seer
Alms Beast
Prime Speaker Zegana
Sylvan Primordial
Frontline Medic
Nightveil Specter (Legion Loyalist)
Angelic Skirmisher
Stomping Grounds
Signal the Clans
Fathom Mage
Central column:
Wrecking Ogre
Signal the Clans (Sunhome Guildmage)
Breeding Pool
Watery Grave
Unexpected Results
Foundry Champion
Treasury Thrull
Glaring Spotlight
Domri Rade (Skinbrand Goblin)
Firemane Avenger
Soul Ransom
Sacred Foundry
Right column:
Rubblebelt Raiders (Shielded Passage)
Aurelia, the Warleader
Skarrg Goliath
Stolen Identity
Luminate Primordial
Realmwright
Giant Adephage
Biomass Mutation
Stolen Identity (Gridlock)
Immortal Servitude
Assemble the Legion
Undercity Plague
Note that this is a transcription of the youtube video found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQzQ555o1Fk
Having looked through previous posts I dont think this box has been posted here yet.
Wrappers werent visible for 1st column and hence omitted.
Packs NOT rearranged using the wrapper method.
Left column:
(1) Breeding Pool
(3) Stolen Identity
(4) Realmwright
(2) Gideon
(5) Nightveil Specter
(3) Thespian's Stage
(4) Legion Loyalist
(1) Mind Grind
(2) Assemble the Legion
(5) High Priest of Penance
(3) Stomping Grounds
(1) Mystic Genesis
Central column:
(5) Molten Primordial
(2) Firemane Avenger
(3) Gruul Ragebeast
(1) Frontline Medic (Treasury Thrull)
(4) Gyre Sage
(2) Rubblehulk
(3) Diluvian Primordial
(5) Ogre Slumord
(1) Glaring Spotlight
(4) Aurelia's Fury
(2) Skarrg Goliath
(5) Watery grave
Right column:
(4) Lord of the Void
(1) Crypt Ghast
(2) Soul Ransom
(5) Sepulchral Primordial
(3) Treasury Thrull
(1) Prime Speaker Zegana
(2) Alms beast
(4) Sacred Foundry
(5) Biovisionary
(3) Merciless Eviction
(1) Five Alarm Fire
(4) Consuming Aberration *not 100% sure about the wrapper on this one.
NOTE: Several foils were missed.
From: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2gsx-rhmfw
hellkite tyrant
treasury thrull
consuming aberration
crypt ghast
five-alarm fire
blind obediance
sylvan primordial
unexpected results
whispering madness
sacred foundry
biomass mutation
signal the clans
middle
simic manipulator
obzedat, ghost council
sylvan primordial
fathom mage
undercity plague
mystic genesis
merciless eviction
alms beast
molten primordial
ogre slumlord
Thespian's Stage
obzedat, ghost council
Right
wrecking ogre
spark trooper
breeding pool
signal the clans
deathpact angel
gruul ragebeast
rubblebelt raiders
borborygmos enraged
foundry champion
angelic skirmisher
Gideon, Champion of Justice
Sepulchral Primordial
Box 1; ZKCT7LA
Left
3
Gruul RageBeast
4
Nightveil Spector
5
Treasury Thrull (Executioner's Swing)
1
Ogre Slumlord
2
Biomass Mutation
3
Thespian Stage
4
Alms Beast
5
Consuming Aberration
1
Simic Manipulator
2
Lazav, Dmir Mastermind
3
Hellkite Tyrant (Slate Street Ruffians)
4
Sacred Foundry (Hintervines)
Center
1
Domri Rade
2
Deluvian Primordial
3
Giant Adephage
4
Soul Ransom
5
Sylvan Primordial
1
Rubblehulk (Crocanura)
2
Aurelia, the Warleader
3
Crypt Ghast
4
Illusionist's Bracers
5
Five Alarm Fire
1
Foundry Champion
2
Molten Primordial
Right
4
Firemane Avenger (Pit Fight)
5
Unexpected Results
1
Realmwright (watery Grave)
2
Luminate Primordial
3
Spark Trooper
4
Merciless Eviction (Hold the Gates)
5
Whispering Madness
1
Frontline Medic
2
High Priest of Penance (Gruul Guildgate)
3
Blind Obedience
4
Watery Grave
5
Mystic Genesis
The gatecrash theme song was amazing! Also, the chip tunes were a great addition. Thanks for your contribution, man. This plugs a hole in the A Track.
Made in U.S.A.
Code: 81F67LC
Mythic
Foil
Mythic Foil
Box #1 (Looking at the barcode on the side of the box it comes in its the one closest to me.)
Left:
Angelic Skirmisher
Skarrg Goliath
Soul Ransom
Legion Loyalist
Rubblebelt Raiders
Prime Speaker Zegana
Stomping Ground (Drakewing Krasis)
Sacred Foundry
Glaring Spotlight
Simic Manipulator (Deathpact Angel)
Fathom Mage
Realmwright
Middle:
Lord of the Void
Breeding Pool
Boros Reckoner (Naturalize)
Unexpected Results (Gateway Shade)
Signal the Clans
Firemane Avenger
Clan Defiance
Stolen Identity
Assemble the Legion
Frontline Medic
Gruul Ragebeast (Forest)
Consuming Aberration
Right:
Blind Obedience
Alms Beast
Wrecking Ogre
Thespian's Stage
Gideon, Champion of Justice
Biomass Mutation (Knight Watch)
Mind Grind
Spark Trooper (Island)
Crypt Ghast
Watery Grave
Aurelia's Fury
Molten Primordial
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyMacius, if you could record the barcode number or guild on the front of each pack associated with the rare from that pack, it would really help me out. I'm almost done with the Tracks and a case with barcode numbers would be super helpful in finishing them. Regardless, thanks for your contribution.
Alright, the Tracks have been updated again. You might be able to start using some of them to map, if you don't mind the risk.
Awesome work SynthesisB, I wasn't sure about my A track until yu posted another track distribution, it all seems to make sense now. We only need few boxes now to complete the gaps, but it looks great so far.
My box is coming on Tue/Wed so I will be happy to sacrifice it in order to try to map it using the tracks
@Vinzito: Do you have any estimated time when you will release your application for GTC?
Another box list stolen from youtube. Not rearranged. Interesting for the quantity of foils. Couldn't see the last few wrappers of each column.
Left column:
(2) Luminate Primordial (Assault Griffin)
(3) Sylvan Primordial
(4) Crypt Ghast
(5) Simic Manipulator
(1) Immortal Servitude
(2) Treasury Thrull
(4) Whispering Madness
(3) Lord of the Void
(5) Molten Primordial (Madcap Skills)
(?) Five Alarm Fire
(?) Gruul Ragebeast (High Priest of Penance)
(?) Illusionist's Bracers
Central column:
(5) Consuming Aberration (Agoraphobia)
(1) Spark Trooper
(2) Realmwright
(3) Angelic Skirmisher (Wildwood Rebirth)
(4) Frontline Medic
(5) Wrecking Ogre
(2) Blind Obedience
(?) Master Biomancer
(?) Undercity Plague
(?) Gyre Sage
(?) Merciless Eviction
(?) Mind Grind (Mountain)
Right Column:
(3) Nightveil Specter (Stomping Ground)
(4) Alms Beast
(5) Stolen Identity
(1) Mystic Genesis
(2) Lazav
(3) Hellkite Tyrant
(5) Stomping Ground (Plains)
(4) Signal the Clans (Skygames)
(1) Foundry Champion
(?) Sacred Foundry
(?) Sepulchral Primordial
(?) Sylvan Primordial
From: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuVWwd8Ekg
@pawel_dom: Hopefully soon if there aren't any major complications. I'm been working on the new versions. Which include a sleeve map for calculating the row shifts and pack removals (much faster) rather than brute force attempts, a walkthrough, and a few other things based off feedback I've received. That should be done very soon and I will immediately start on GTC. It's just especially important for the GTC app to include the new features, so I have to finish those first.
Also the sleeve information that has been posted so far has been very helpful. Especially with the changes that have been made to this set.
Track A
Consuming Aberration
Godless Shrine
Deathpact Angel
Soul Ransom
Aurelia, the Warleader
Duskmantle Seer
Stolen Identity
Prime Speaker Zegana
Glaring Spotlight
Domri Rade
Giant Adephage
Soul Ransom
Whispering Madness
Aurelia, the Warleader
Consuming Aberration
Lazav
Hellkite Tyrant
Master Biomancer
Lord of the Void
Whispering Madness
Mind Grind
Enter the Infinite
Domri Rade
Consuming Aberration
Soul Ransom
Godless Shrine
Duskmantle Seer
Glaring Spotlight
Whispering Madness
Enter the Infinite
Borborygmos
Mind Grind
Aurelia's Fury
Godless Shrine
Giant Adephage
Master Biomancer
Glaring Spotlight
Ozbedat
Consuming Aberration
Deathpact Angel
Hellkite Tyrant
Borborygmos
Whispering Madness
Gideon
Ozbedat
Mind Grind
Godless Shrine
Lazav
Lord of the Void
Soul Ransom
Gideon
Prime Speaker Zegana
Mind Grind
Glaring Spotlight
Track B
Wrecking Ogre
Mystic Genesis
Unexpected Results
Ogre Slumlord
Biomass Mutation
Merciless Eviction
Frontline Medic
Illusionist's Bracers
Mystic Genesis
Biovisionary
Breeding Pool
Wrecking Ogre
Unexpected Results
Biomass Mutation
Stolen Identity
Stomping Ground
Frontline Medic
Fathom Mage
Merciless Eviction
Ogre Slumlord
Wrecking Ogre
Biovisionary
Gyre Sage
Unexpected Results
Stolen Identity
Mystic Genesis
Frontline Medic
Wrecking Ogre
Stomping Ground
Gyre Sage
Merciless Eviction
Illusionist's Bracers
Fathom Mage
Ogre Slumlord
Breeding Pool
Unexpected Results
Stomping Ground
Biovisionary
Biomass Mutation
Illusionist's Bracers
Fathom Mage
Stolen Identity
Breeding Pool
Frontline Medic
Gyre Sage
Ogre Slumlord
Biovisionary
Merciless Eviction
Stomping Ground
Mystic Genesis
Biomass Mutation
Gyre Sage
Illusionist's Bracers
Breeding Pool
Track C
Crypt Ghast
Firemane Avenger
Molten Primordial
Sepulchral Primordial
Nightveil Specter
Sacred Foundry
Diluvian Primordial
Legion Loyalist
Assemble the Legion
Skarrg Goliath
Boros Reckoner
Luminate Primordial
Foundry Champion
Sylvan Primordial
Nightveil Specter
Firemane Avenger
Assemble the Legion
Sacred Foundry
Luminate Primordial
Sepulchral Primordial
Simic Manipulator
Skarrg Goliath
Blind Obediance
Boros Reckoner
Legion Loyalist
Firemane Avenger
Sacred Foundry
Crypt Ghast
Assemble the Legion
Simic Manipulator
Molten Primordial
Blind Obediance
Spark Trooper
Foundry Champion
Legion Loyalist
Skarrg Goliath
Diluvian Primordial
Sepulchral Primordial
Assemble the Legion
Blind Obediance
Sylvan Primordial
Boros Reckoner
Firemane Avenger
Diluvian Primordial
Nightveil Specter
Luminate Primordial
Spark Trooper
Sylvan Primordial
Crypt Ghast
Simic Manipulator
Blind Obediance
Foundry Champion
Molten Primordial
Sacred Foundry
Sepulchral Primordial
Sylvan Primordial
Simic Manipulator
Nightveil Specter
Legion Loyalist
Crypt Ghast
Boros Reckoner
Molten Primordial
Luminate Primordial
Skarrg Goliath
Foundry Champion
Track D
Alms Beast
Realmwright
Angelic Skirmisher
Immortal Servitude
Treasury Thrull
Signal the Clans
Undercity Plague
Five-Alarm Fire
Gruul Ragebeast
Alms Beast
Angelic Skirmisher
Thespian's Stage
Signal the Clans
Rubblebelt Raiders
Spark Trooper
Clan Defiance
Watery Grave
Gruul Ragebeast
Realmwright
Treasury Thrull
Rubblehulk
Thespian's Stage
Alms Beast
High Priest of Penance
Five-Alarm Fire
Watery Grave
Spark Trooper
Undercity Plague
Clan Defiance
Alms Beast
Ooze Flux
Rubblehulk
Realmwright
Rubblebelt Raiders
Thespian's Stage
Gruul Ragebeast
Treasury Thrull
Watery Grave
Immortal Servitude
Five-Alarm Fire
Clan Defiance
Ooze Flux
High Priest of Penance
Treasury Thrull
Undercity Plague
Rubblehulk
Angelic Skirmisher
Clan Defiance
Thespian's Stage
Immortal Servitude
Realmwright
High Priest of Penance
Gruul Ragebeast
Ooze Flux
Signal the Clans
Five-Alarm Fire
Rubblehulk
Rubblebelt Raiders
Undercity Plague
Immortal Servitude
Ooze Flux
Angelic Skirmisher
Signal the Clans
High Priest of Penance
Rubblebelt Raiders
To me, the hardest part of mapping Gatecrash practically will be the quickness you can determine which sequence the box is on and then hoping it doesn't do something odd when the sequence ends (like skip cards, start a new sequence, etc).
mtggo, great work!
Multiple sequences could be a nightmare. Any idea if the sequences are tied to region of manufacture?
Also, is there any evidence of sequence changing mid-box? (ie- one sequence ends and then a different one begins)
There are some boxes in which the known sequence ends and then whatever happens next isn't anticipated, but the cards from each track still progress as expected throughout the box. So you can wind up knowing what is in the box, but you won't know exactly where. Meaning you will open a lot more packs than you'll want to. Maybe with enough data it can be figured out how to anticipate the changes, but so far I am at a loss.
Initially, it was like this:
5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 1
1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 2
2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 3
I figured the pattern was 3-2-1-5-4, but I didn't know whether (from the left) column 6 or column 7 was supposed to be in column 11 since both were identical; I just moved column 7 to column 11, and column 2 to column 6 to make:
3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1
4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2
5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 3
Where dark orchid indicates shifted columns.
Alright, let’s do this!
Left:
5 Mind Grind
3 Assemble the Legion
1 Rubblebelt Raiders
4 Godless Shrine
2 Skarrg Goliath
5 Biovisionary
3 Angelic Skirmisher (Dutiful Thrull)
1 Foundry Champion
4 Sylvan Primordial
2 Unexpected Results
5 Obzedat, Ghost Council
3 Biomass Mutation (Dimir Charm)
Center:
4 Diluvian Primordial
2 Legion Loyalist (Madcap Skills)
5 Illusionist’s Bracers
3 Aurelia’s Fury
1 Mystic Genesis
4 Ooze Flux
2 Luminate Primordial
5 Signal the Clans
3 Breeding Pool
1 Wrecking Ogre (Shadow Slice)
4 Rubblebelt Raiders
2 Watery Grave
Right:
3 Rubblehulk
1 Merciless Eviction
4 Frontline Medic
2 Undercity Plague
5 Immortal Servitude (Mountain 268)
3 Giant Adephage (Boros Keyrune)
1 Boros Reckoner (Obzedat, Ghost Council)
4 Master Biomancer
2 Glaring Spotlight
5 Nightveil Specter
3 High Priest of Penance
1 Consuming Aberration
Hope this helps!
I would love to see the new app when it comes out. Do you have an idea ETA for us all to use?
Shouldn't be easier for all of us to use the collector number instead of the card name when posting the boxes? It certainly makes data input and possibly data process faster.
Also, what will it happen once we have solved this expansion? I understand you Vinzito wrote an App for iOS, but what about non-Apple users? Will someone post the "solved map" for us mere mortals to use? Windows app? Mac app? Android app?
I'll be posting 4 boxes of data as soon as I finish opening them, which should be fairly soon (using Vinzito's method of row fixing).
This is what I do. Since everyone seems to like names, I just type in collector numbers and let excel do the work. Check out sheet 1 and sheet 2 of the first spreadsheet I posted (its also in the first post) to see how it works.
High Number Death Game
20 Questions (with Magic Cards)
Left column
Merciless eviction
Skarrg Goliath
Boros reckoner
Undercity plague
Ogre slumlord
Biovisionary
Ooze flux
Nightveil specter
Obzedat, ghost council
Mind grind
Sacred foundry
Gruul ragebeast
Center
Sylvan primordial
Assemble the legion
Deathpact angel
Hellkite tyrant
Luminate primordial
Alms beast
Whispering madness
Realmwright
Stomping ground
Mystic genesis
Thespian's stage
Godless shrine
Right
Rubblehulk
Spark trooper
Frontline medic
Gyre sage
Clan defiance
Borborygmos enraged
Foundry champion
Gideon, champion of justice
Firemane avenger
Assemble the legion
Rubblebelt raiders
Biomass mutation
Didn't note which packs contained foils or their wrappers.
Position in the case unknown.
It had 2 displaced rows, one in each half (3 and 9) but otherwise it was a straightforward box.
The pattern ended up being (as per Vinzito's method) 3, 1, 4, 2, 5 (Zegana, Boros, Gruul, Orzhov, Dimir).
LEFT
(2) Realmwright
(3) Skaarg Goliath (Forest 274)
(4) Illusionist's Bracers
(5) Rubblehulk (Breeding Pool)
(1) Soul Ransom
(2) Biovisionary
(3) High Priest of Penance
(4) Aurelia, the Warleader
(5) Nightveil Specter
(1) Watery Grave (Knightwatch)
(2) Lazav, Dimir Mastermind (Experiment One)
(3) Sacred Foundry
CENTER
(5) Glaring Spotlight
(1) Assemble the Legion
(2) Treasury Thrull
(3) Giant Adephage
(4) Luminate Primordial (Way of the Thief)
(5) Alms Beast
(1) Whispering Madness
(2) Sylvan Primordial
(3) Wrecking Ogre
(4) Consuming Aberration
(5) Assemble the Legion
(1) Biomass Mutation
RIGHT
(3) Legion Loyalist
(4) Frontline Medic
(5) Domri Rade
(1) Boros Reckoner
(2) Mystic Genesis (Swamp 264)
(3) Thespian's Stage
(4) Foundry Champion
(5) Breeding Pool (Naturalize)
(1) Five-Alarm Fire
(2) Firemane Avenger
(3) Unexpected Results
(4) Spark Trooper