Flusterstorm U
Instant - Rare
Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless it's controller pays 1.
Storm
It is similar to Spell Pierce, although can't counter as many different spells, but countering a copy of Flusterstorm only halves the amount of mana payed. That of of course changes drastically when there is a longer chain of spells. It is INCREDIBLY effective at stopping storm decks (or defending them for that matter, especially against enemy Flusterstorms).
Will this card shoot up in price as a valuable tool in eternal formats?
Flusterstorm U
Instant - Rare
Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless it's controller pays 1.
Storm
It is similar to Spell Pierce, although can't counter as many different spells, but countering a copy of Flusterstorm only halves the amount of mana payed. That of of course changes drastically when there is a longer chain of spells. It is INCREDIBLY effective at stopping storm decks (or defending them for that matter, especially against enemy Flusterstorms).
Will this card shoot up in price as a valuable tool in eternal formats?
Probably not since it is instant or sorcery. If it was noncreature then EDH players will cry from people buying the Devour with Power precon because then it would be BONKERS. As it is though I'm not to terribly impressed.
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To the people that say that a card needs to be a higher rarity because of Limited... I hate you guys so much. I present to you with this.
Why does EVERYONE think that this card is only used to answer the card that's actually played with storm.
This card is BETTER than Mindbreak Trap. One reason: Time Spiral.
You mindbreak trap a time spiral and you get Force of Willed into oblivion. They could have Pact of Negation for that matter. If you get this with a storm count of 8-10 it will counter Time Spiral and be uncounterable.
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Why does EVERYONE think that this card is only used to answer the card that's actually played with storm.
This card is BETTER than Mindbreak Trap. One reason: Time Spiral.
You mindbreak trap a time spiral and you get Force of Willed into oblivion. They could have Pact of Negation for that matter. If you get this with a storm count of 8-10 it will counter Time Spiral and be uncounterable.
Its pretty good against storm, but it still costs mana, even if its just 1.
Overall its really a counter that gets better in Multiplayer.
If your playgroup is full of blue that create giant stacks, this is the supreme king card that just shuts them down.
Would it be "non-creature" , this card would just be insane strong.
They might have wanted to print this card specifically so it would be available for Legacy without having it ever exist in Standard (where it would clearly be bad for the format).
The problem with defining [EDH] by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
They might have wanted to print this card specifically so it would be available for Legacy without having it ever exist in Standard (where it would clearly be bad for the format).
They have stated they were trying to avoid cards that would lead to legacy players gutting the shelves of this product to get one card.
This I believe may be a slip up.
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I found this card while scanning the spoiler for potential Pauper answers to Temporal Fissure, and had similar thoughts. Here is an eternal-playable fly in the Commander ointment.
On the other hand, it is competing with Mental Misstep.
Commander decks are readily available at the shop in MTGO, so digital Flusterstorm can't get too pricy.
Paper players might get soaked. The storm mechanic means its unlikely to see reprinting in a normal expansion any time soon.
The drawback is easily ignored. It can counter almost every non land card in my deck. It will counter the biggest threats, which don't happen to be artifacts or enchantments half the time. I think this more accurately reads:
Counter target instant or sorcery U.
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The drawback is easily ignored. It can counter almost every non land card in my deck. It will counter the biggest threats, which don't happen to be artifacts or enchantments half the time. I think this more accurately reads:
Counter target instant or sorcery U.
even if that was the card text, it would be not particularly different than Dispel and arguably worse than Spell Pierce. no, the card is really not like that at all. the drawback is not easily ignored. many decks (even in Legacy, even in Commander) have no problem casting just 1 spell per turn and leaving a bit of extra mana up.
i think the spell is very elegant as a combo hoser and generally worse than every other type of cheap counter you might use otherwise. this makes it a better option than Mindbreak Trap, or Double Negative, and Time Stop for defending against storm (or other decks that can cast many spells in a turn) but thats probably as far as it goes.
For legacy play i think this probably doesn't cut it in the maindeck. Mental Mistep, Force of Will, and Stifle are all better choices. I really just see this one as a sideboard hoser and nothing else.
For Commander its a nice option. It provides much needed redundancy to the singleton format and helps future proof the format against Storm combos getting even stronger than they already are.
They have stated they were trying to avoid cards that would lead to legacy players gutting the shelves of this product to get one card.
This I believe may be a slip up.
Actually, I don't think it was a slip-up. I think Wizards knew EXACTLY what they were doing by putting a very "non-EDH" card into one of the Commander sets.
This card has a very clear design that they obviously wanted to put into eternal formats without having it available in current formats. Quite sneaky but well done in my opinion.
Slightly interesting information: If the vendor singles prices that just came up are any indication, it's between this and Chaos Warp as the most highly anticipated-to-be-desired singles -- so highest priced singles -- in the set.
First I thought this cards was the nuts: it doesn't counter jace, but hell it feels good to be able to spell pierce without just getting mental misstep-ed. To win every counter war. To beat ANT even if they have 4 pact of negations in hand when they go off.
But then I thought... who brings spell pierce in from the board if not to counter jace?
Actually, I don't think it was a slip-up. I think Wizards knew EXACTLY what they were doing by putting a very "non-EDH" card into one of the Commander sets.
This card has a very clear design that they obviously wanted to put into eternal formats without having it available in current formats. Quite sneaky but well done in my opinion.
If it was intentional, gee, thanks Wizards for increasing the price of Political Puppets. At least Chaos Warp is actually good in EDH.
Im abit confused on what happens when this gets stormed.
I understand the storm mechanics, just dont get what happens when flusterstorm gets storm.
Say 3 spells were played. So what happens? Do i play flusterstorm on the 3rd spell so that the additonal 1 cost becomes 3. Yeah I'm basically lost on it.
Suppose they cast a spell, you let it resolve, storm count 1. They cast another spell, you let it resolve, storm count 2. They cast something you don't want to let resolve (call it Lightning Bolt for clarity), storm count 3. You cast Flusterstorm while Lightning Bolt is on the stack targeting Lightning Bolt. Storm triggers on top of Flusterstorm, creating three copies. You may choose new targets; the only other legal targets are your Flusterstorms, so you leave them all targeting Lightning Bolt.
The opponent's Lightning Bolt is now countered unless they pay 4 - 1 for the original Flusterstorm, and 1 for each of 3 copies.
More importantly, if they have, say, a Force of Will, they can only reduce the cost by 1 because they have to counter each Flusterstorm independently.
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Instant - Rare
Counter target instant or sorcery spell unless it's controller pays 1.
Storm
It is similar to Spell Pierce, although can't counter as many different spells, but countering a copy of Flusterstorm only halves the amount of mana payed. That of of course changes drastically when there is a longer chain of spells. It is INCREDIBLY effective at stopping storm decks (or defending them for that matter, especially against enemy Flusterstorms).
Will this card shoot up in price as a valuable tool in eternal formats?
Probably not since it is instant or sorcery. If it was noncreature then EDH players will cry from people buying the Devour with Power precon because then it would be BONKERS. As it is though I'm not to terribly impressed.
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Why does EVERYONE think that this card is only used to answer the card that's actually played with storm.
This card is BETTER than Mindbreak Trap. One reason: Time Spiral.
You mindbreak trap a time spiral and you get Force of Willed into oblivion. They could have Pact of Negation for that matter. If you get this with a storm count of 8-10 it will counter Time Spiral and be uncounterable.
Its pretty good against storm, but it still costs mana, even if its just 1.
Overall its really a counter that gets better in Multiplayer.
If your playgroup is full of blue that create giant stacks, this is the supreme king card that just shuts them down.
Would it be "non-creature" , this card would just be insane strong.
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They have stated they were trying to avoid cards that would lead to legacy players gutting the shelves of this product to get one card.
This I believe may be a slip up.
On the other hand, it is competing with Mental Misstep.
Commander decks are readily available at the shop in MTGO, so digital Flusterstorm can't get too pricy.
Paper players might get soaked. The storm mechanic means its unlikely to see reprinting in a normal expansion any time soon.
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Counter target instant or sorcery U.
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even if that was the card text, it would be not particularly different than Dispel and arguably worse than Spell Pierce. no, the card is really not like that at all. the drawback is not easily ignored. many decks (even in Legacy, even in Commander) have no problem casting just 1 spell per turn and leaving a bit of extra mana up.
i think the spell is very elegant as a combo hoser and generally worse than every other type of cheap counter you might use otherwise. this makes it a better option than Mindbreak Trap, or Double Negative, and Time Stop for defending against storm (or other decks that can cast many spells in a turn) but thats probably as far as it goes.
For legacy play i think this probably doesn't cut it in the maindeck. Mental Mistep, Force of Will, and Stifle are all better choices. I really just see this one as a sideboard hoser and nothing else.
For Commander its a nice option. It provides much needed redundancy to the singleton format and helps future proof the format against Storm combos getting even stronger than they already are.
Time Stop is even better in that uncounterable spells never occur and get exiled.
Actually, I don't think it was a slip-up. I think Wizards knew EXACTLY what they were doing by putting a very "non-EDH" card into one of the Commander sets.
This card has a very clear design that they obviously wanted to put into eternal formats without having it available in current formats. Quite sneaky but well done in my opinion.
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But then I thought... who brings spell pierce in from the board if not to counter jace?
If it was intentional, gee, thanks Wizards for increasing the price of Political Puppets. At least Chaos Warp is actually good in EDH.
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Suppose they cast a spell, you let it resolve, storm count 1. They cast another spell, you let it resolve, storm count 2. They cast something you don't want to let resolve (call it Lightning Bolt for clarity), storm count 3. You cast Flusterstorm while Lightning Bolt is on the stack targeting Lightning Bolt. Storm triggers on top of Flusterstorm, creating three copies. You may choose new targets; the only other legal targets are your Flusterstorms, so you leave them all targeting Lightning Bolt.
The opponent's Lightning Bolt is now countered unless they pay 4 - 1 for the original Flusterstorm, and 1 for each of 3 copies.
More importantly, if they have, say, a Force of Will, they can only reduce the cost by 1 because they have to counter each Flusterstorm independently.