That's some really beautiful art on a really beautiful planeswalker. Well done, Serra, for your greatest creation. Thank you for bringing my favorite planeswalker back. Whatever deck in whatever format plays her, I will go.
Beautiful, but seems very weak. The last hope, the thing that drops in and starts dropping Phyrexians, an elevation of everything she has ever been, and it's a 4 drop that can make a SINGLE 1/1 or pump ONE creature a little bit? Why did they have to do all this cool story stuff, have this great art and put it all into a mediocre card?
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There it is our Angel Planeswalker :). I am really happy right now. I am not mad that we can't play her as commander.
I am not sure about being mediocre. She gives a creature +2/+2 and flying for the time the creature is on the field, there is no until end of turn on the Angel Type/flying thing. I am not sure if the Angel type has any relevance... maybe when playing an Angel deck. The ultimate is a little weak for 6 loyalty and only a +1 ability and is basically a wombo with Angels which tend to be on the expensive side. I am wondering if the new Planeswalker are kept a little weaker because of proliferate in standard.
She works great with Luxior, Giada's Gift making herself an Angel with Flying and +4/+4 with her own -2 ability.
That feels a little too similar to Knight-Errant to me
It probably would be better to let her create angels to mirror Sorin, Solemn Visitor
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Phyrexia is much more than just Norn, I feel like that's just cutting one head off the hydra.
The artwork could be for something else but Elesh isn't dead in the story. Just wounded. Elspeth striked the shoulder of Elesh to escape the battle against her and get to Nissa to distract her so Chandra and Wrenn can get to the tree. We have the next dead Preator but it isn't Elesh.
Beautiful, but seems very weak. The last hope, the thing that drops in and starts dropping Phyrexians, an elevation of everything she has ever been, and it's a 4 drop that can make a SINGLE 1/1 or pump ONE creature a little bit? Why did they have to do all this cool story stuff, have this great art and put it all into a mediocre card?
Phyrexia is much more than just Norn, I feel like that's just cutting one head off the hydra.
The artwork could be for something else but Elesh isn't dead in the story. Just wounded. Elspeth striked the shoulder of Elesh to escape the battle against her and get to Nissa to distract her so Chandra and Wrenn can get to the tree. We have the next dead Preator but it isn't Elesh.
Well then, this feels like perfectly reasonable plot craft.
Phyrexia is much more than just Norn, I feel like that's just cutting one head off the hydra.
The artwork could be for something else but Elesh isn't dead in the story. Just wounded. Elspeth striked the shoulder of Elesh to escape the battle against her and get to Nissa to distract her so Chandra and Wrenn can get to the tree. We have the next dead Preator but it isn't Elesh.
Well yea I know that but the thing is in this picture that’s definitely not her shoulder she’s stabbing it’s the middle of her chest
so They may use this art again for chapter 9-10 to truly show elsepth killing elesh norn
Limited/standard wise, putting out a chump blocker, and getting a + instead of a - for it is pretty strong
Obviously really good in limited, but in Standard, it struggles a bit in comparison to stuff like The Wandering Emperor and Wedding Announcement, both of which already do the "make tokens and buff creatures" thing very effectively.
Limited/standard wise, putting out a chump blocker, and getting a + instead of a - for it is pretty strong
Obviously really good in limited, but in Standard, it struggles a bit in comparison to stuff like The Wandering Emperor and Wedding Announcement, both of which already do the "make tokens and buff creatures" thing very effectively.
Or add her into the mix.
T4 Wanderer placing down a dood, then T5 Elspeth and pump it to a 5/5 Vig, Flying, thats pretty much a Serra Angel there that can attack that turn.
I really like her, so cannot wait to get this card, and i like that she still makes Soldiers rather than angels, at least for the moment, as she has just been remade, so maybe in time she will make angels (if she survives).
Yeah at the moment she can't compete with the The Wandering Emperor as value/defense card but I think you could have one or two as a combo piece. We have a lot of proliferate in standard. I could see some kind of selfmill deck getting some >= 3 Mana cards into the grave and all to the battlefield the turn you play her. She works well with Luxior, Giada's Gift, too. A 2/2 token would have been a lot better obviously but still the Wanderer would have been better. I am not sure why the -2 ability isn't using flying-counters. I don't think that the angel typing will be important but who knows. The next sets will all be Angel-less sets... Eldraine and Ixalan won't have any. Changing the type to Angel would work with Giada, Font of Hope for making the next real Angel stronger. Maybe Angels get some attention. We have Zendikar, Dominaria, Innistrad, Kaldheim planes with some Angels and Kaladesh, Alara should have some, too. They are known to be protective. The flying could be relevant with a specific battle card... Maybe a battle in the sky. (Takir with Dragons for example). Being able to give any creature evasion shouldn't be underestimated, too. Specially when we have poison counters in standard.
I am honestly more happy to have her being around now. I hope we will see a lot of her in the future :).
This is a common mistake. Serra wasn't an Angel. She was aligned with Angels and could create them. She was a very powerful Human... a old Planeswalker with Godlike powers...
Serra would be more like Sarkhan while our new Elspeth is the actual thing (more like Bolas or Ugin are dragons or Ob Nixilis is a demon).
It would had been more interesting if the designed would had been more flavorfull
like having ANGEL Elspeth having a passive ability that...
"this planeswalker cannot be attacked by creatures without flying and reach"
Yeah on the other side our Dragons and Demon Planeswalker have wings, too and never had such ability. The newest from of The Wanderer The Eternal Wanderer had an ability I once thought would be cool for flying planeswalker.
Serra was never an angel, just a human old walker.
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Is anybody even surprised?
So where does she see play?
That ultimate is waaaaay more interesting though..
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I am not sure about being mediocre. She gives a creature +2/+2 and flying for the time the creature is on the field, there is no until end of turn on the Angel Type/flying thing. I am not sure if the Angel type has any relevance... maybe when playing an Angel deck. The ultimate is a little weak for 6 loyalty and only a +1 ability and is basically a wombo with Angels which tend to be on the expensive side. I am wondering if the new Planeswalker are kept a little weaker because of proliferate in standard.
She works great with Luxior, Giada's Gift making herself an Angel with Flying and +4/+4 with her own -2 ability.
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It probably would be better to let her create angels to mirror Sorin, Solemn Visitor
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Phyrexia is much more than just Norn, I feel like that's just cutting one head off the hydra.
But... so where is the Avengers Endgame Thor killing Thanos Expanded Universe card?
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This felt somekind of red herring and might be Elspeth's Swan Song moment like what WOTC did to Gideon.
I wonder who gonna kill Elesh Norm or would she be trapped in a dimension like Bolas.
My thoughts exactly.
Well then, this feels like perfectly reasonable plot craft.
Well yea I know that but the thing is in this picture that’s definitely not her shoulder she’s stabbing it’s the middle of her chest
so They may use this art again for chapter 9-10 to truly show elsepth killing elesh norn
Obviously really good in limited, but in Standard, it struggles a bit in comparison to stuff like The Wandering Emperor and Wedding Announcement, both of which already do the "make tokens and buff creatures" thing very effectively.
Or add her into the mix.
T4 Wanderer placing down a dood, then T5 Elspeth and pump it to a 5/5 Vig, Flying, thats pretty much a Serra Angel there that can attack that turn.
I really like her, so cannot wait to get this card, and i like that she still makes Soldiers rather than angels, at least for the moment, as she has just been remade, so maybe in time she will make angels (if she survives).
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like having ANGEL Elspeth having a passive ability that...
"this planeswalker cannot be attacked by creatures without flying and reach"
I am honestly more happy to have her being around now. I hope we will see a lot of her in the future :).
This is a common mistake. Serra wasn't an Angel. She was aligned with Angels and could create them. She was a very powerful Human... a old Planeswalker with Godlike powers...
Serra would be more like Sarkhan while our new Elspeth is the actual thing (more like Bolas or Ugin are dragons or Ob Nixilis is a demon).
Yeah on the other side our Dragons and Demon Planeswalker have wings, too and never had such ability. The newest from of The Wanderer The Eternal Wanderer had an ability I once thought would be cool for flying planeswalker.
Serra was never an angel, just a human old walker.
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