So will this new Phyrexian be a Soldier or a Cleric? Feels soldier to me. A definite pickup to the Standard W and UW Soldier decks out there.
"I march for every Compleated cobbler, tanner and fool in this Sphere, and they march for me."
WarMachinePrime's flavor text guess.
Why is it a choice between clerics and soldiers? It's a phyrexian in a set that is known to have phyrexian tribal elements, so it would probably trigger off phyrexians.
Do you guys still believe the RUMOR on Thalia becoming a MONO White walker too?
Or She might be turned as a Selenya Walker or a Boros Walker instead of being MONO.
or she be just a creature.
Correct me if im wrong the last standard set that I see white has multiple MONO WALKER was WAR of the spark.
So do you think their would be 2 white walker in this set or not?
We literally have Thalia appear in Thalia and the Gitrog Monster as a creature, so there's literally zero reason we should see her appear in another card or as a planeswalker.
Correct me if im wrong the last standard set that I see white has multiple MONO WALKER was WAR of the spark.
WAR was also a 36 planeswalkers set. It was not a normal set. We can't use it as reference for nothing for normal sets.
Also yes, Elsepth is already revealed as the monowhite PW of the set, so that put the final nail in the coffin for color balance reasons.
dfc tokens would require rules change, no? under current rules tokens are not cards and comprules transform definition requires "cards" to work. but based on past weasel-wording by maro this could as well not be even remotely connected to actual transform mechanic but something completely different.
What worries me is the card that produces such a token. It would have to spell out what the token is, its characteristics, what triggers the transform and what are the characteristics of the other face. I'm guessing they will have to use the extremely-tiny-font tech on that one.
We literally have Thalia appear in Thalia and the Gitrog Monster as a creature, so there's literally zero reason we should see her appear in another card or as a planeswalker.
I was pointing out the RUMOR in this thread (earlier pages) that Thalia might be turned into a planeswalker regarding Gitrog
that Thalia and Gitrog was not a normal set too it is a COMMANDER release so it's not an "ordinary set" too
while about WAR was more of an ordinary set than where Thalia and Gitrog is gonna be release because it was in Standard.
I was asking if they are still thinking if there was a chance that this MOTM would have two white walkers?
WAR was also a 36 planeswalkers set. It was not a normal set. We can't use it as reference for nothing for normal sets.
Was there even a RULE that it is only require to have one walker per mono color in a standard set?
things are unpredicatable with mtg nowadays thats kinda like early 2k when core set are just reprints and 3 expansion comes in one block. things change now you get textless lands and foil token nowadays.
It is a lengthy leap from, "Thalia appeared on a poster with two planeswalkers" to, "Thalia is going to be a planeswalker." If I'm wrong, I'll happily eat my words. But if it does happen at all, I really don't think it'll be in this set, since there are far too many things stacked against it. MoM has:
•A creature card with Thalia on it
•A very, very story-hyped PW with Thalia's color identity
•Eight full episodes (and several side chapters) of story up, and no mention of Thalia, even in the Innistrad chapter
Considering all those factors, I really don't think WotC is going to pull something out of left field here.
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Yeah, I doubt it, too. If she gets a Planeswalker card then in aftermath. But when I remove all the Phyrexian Planeswalker from the equation the planeswalker count for each color (mono color) seems to even out pretty well.
White: Elspeth, Basri, Teyo, The Wanderer
Blue: Teferi, Tezzeret, Will, Mu Yanling
Red: Chandra, Koth, Sarkhan, Rowan
Green: Vivien, Garruk, Wrenn, Jiang
Black: Liliana, Sorin, Ob Nixilis, Davriel
I only picked up Planeswalker which had a representation as a mono-colored card and where we can assume the core color. Teferi and Tezzeret have the same amount of mono-blue or multicolor cards for example. Kasmina could be core blue but we only saw her twice and one was her uncommon card in War of the Spark. Narset is multicolor I think her one mono-colored card was in War of the spark. I am not sure with Davriel I would assume he is core black. Maybe black is a little short on Planeswalkers.
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What are you talking about? Thalia and Gitrog it's from the normal March of the Machine set, not the Commander decks associated.
Okay I didnt double checked it, but still there is no such thing that one planeswalker pero mono.
Im not arguing or pointing see will strongly mono or she be a planeswalker, Im asking what are your thoughts about here from the initial rumor after the reveal of elspeth?
Plus I don't initially said she gonna be MONO. that she could be SELENYA or BOROS if not MONO because of Elspeth?
I was asking what are there thoughts about Thalia Rumor initially in the thread becoming a planeswalker?
not specifically abiut her being MONO but i was pointing out if she be DUAL color because of ELspeth reveal? do they still believe that Thalia would become a planeswalker or not because of Elspeth.
I never pointing out that she gonna be a mono white walker i was just stating that Elspeth not being walker in this set doesnt mean we couldnt have 2 walkers and that thalia could.be DUAL colored.
another to think about was the LASt set had tons of Urza and Mishra cards too.
So that Gitrog with Thalia doesn't nail the coffin possibility of Thalia becoming a WALKER.
You are delusional. We all bringed here multiple and extremely convincing arguments of why Thalia can't be a PW in this set. Color balance issues. No story relevance at all. Already got her card and as a creature. That she appear among the planeswalkers (among many others non-planeswalkers characters from every other plane) simply because the realmbreaker connect every world together in this moment. That the are precise contexts and reasons of why make sense to make a character appearing on multiple cards in the same main set and this simply isn't the case. You can ignore the arguments all time you want, but that won't change the reality. Check again this thread after MoM spoilers ends to see how silly were your wishful thinking arguments all along.
You are delusional. We all bringed here multiple and extremely convincing arguments of why Thalia can't be a PW in this set. Color balance issues. No story relevance at all. Already got her card and as a creature. That she appear among the planeswalkers (among many others non-planeswalkers characters from every other plane) simply because the realmbreaker connect every world together in this moment. That the are precise contexts and reasons of why make sense to make a character appearing on multiple cards in the same main set and this simply isn't the case. You can ignore the arguments all time you want, but that won't change the reality. Check again this thread after MoM spoilers ends to see how silly were your wishful thinking arguments all along.
FIRST of all your claim of a definite color balance is not some kind of FIX
and WAR is a also a STANDARD set like MOM/MOTM
my mistake is not looking into that thalia and gitrog was not a commander of MOTM yet that doesn't enought to invalidate the rumor
Urza and Mishra has multiple CREATURE CARD representation in the recent sets
lol why are you mad? Im not hoping she be a planeswalker im just askin what are the other thoughts about it
if she be turned Selenya or Boros after elspeth being revealed as white lol.
I dont really care whether she be Mono? I am asking if they turn her SELENYA or BOROS? what are their thoughts
thete no such delusional in that way? I didnt even started that rumor haha
there is no point to persist of whether she not or will be because there is a rumor and im just asking of thought about her being dual color PW
and WAR is a also a STANDARD set like MOM/MOTM
Urza and Mishra has multiple CREATURE CARD representation in the recent sets
WAR is a unique case in 30 years of history of game, and could only happened because it was a 36 PW set, which is something that this set is NOT. Repeating it won't make you more right.
Urza and Mishra were the absolute main protagonists of Brother War set, exactly as Chandra was the main protagonist of Core Set 20 and thats why she appeared also multiple times. Thalia, as all the episodes of march of the machines proves, it's so marginal she barely is even mentioned at all. If even this doesn't convince you, is not my problem bud.
there is no point to persist of whether she not or will be because there is a rumor and im just asking of thought about her being dual color PW
Everybody already answered and already gave their toughts on the matter. It's a rumor that doesn't make any sense for this set. She's monowhite as usual and her card is in Abzan color exclusively because of the Gitrog Monster, which is BG. There's nothing that should make us think that she will be a PW or dual colored for this set. Period.
and WAR is a also a STANDARD set like MOM/MOTM
Urza and Mishra has multiple CREATURE CARD representation in the recent sets
WAR is a unique case in 30 years of history of game, and could only happened because it was a 36 PW set, which is something that this set is NOT. Repeating it won't make you more right.
Urza and Mishra were the absolute main protagonists of Brother War set, exactly as Chandra was the main protagonist of Core Set 20 and thats why she appeared also multiple times. Thalia, as all the episodes of march of the machines proves, it's so marginal she barely is even mentioned at all. If even this doesn't convince you, is not my problem bud.
there is no point to persist of whether she not or will be because there is a rumor and im just asking of thought about her being dual color PW
Everybody already answered and already gave their toughts on the matter. It's a rumor that doesn't make any sense for this set. She's monowhite as usual and her card is in Abzan color exclusively because of the Gitrog Monster, which is BG. There's nothing that should make us think that she will be a PW or dual colored for this set. Period.
First I ask the same question in the other thread and it's fine
look your the one who doesn't makes sense WHY?
because your persistent and obseses on like your claiming that there is rule and everything is set on stone and that format or pattern is something in every standard set. lol
WAR? come on theros before having enchantment creatures is unique too
artifact lands are also before unique to mirrodin
colored artifact were previously unique for alara
textless standard lands was before unique to zendikar
stop making thing up that their is some sort pattern or format for Thalia not or something.
I'm just asking question if people still think that thalia would became walker?
and im not saying she will be or not.
i have did the same question in elspeth thread but your the one tbat seems on gatekeeping so much on thalia posibilities.
With a new artwork of a Kaldheim Angel striking some tentacles.
Are you sure those aren’t braids? She seems to be fighting the realm breaker.
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A legacy of lies,
A familiar disguise
Sing with me a song of conquest and fate
The black pillar cracks beneath its weight
Night breaks through the day, hard as a stone
Lost in thoughts all alone
"Yes, ours." Della turned her face skyward as well as a mass of angels rose to the vacant portals, charging after the branches and into planes beyond.
"What's happening?"
"The angels are being unleashed into the Multiverse, bringing the power of Halo with them." Della's wings stretched further as her feet finally touched a solid rooftop and she released Errant.
"Is it the end?" Errant remained focused on the angels leaving New Capenna. They took their magic and might with them. But something assured her that New Capenna would be all right even without them. For once, they'd managed to work together. Perhaps it was the start of a bright new future.
"No," Della admitted, somewhat sadly. "This alone will not be enough to end this war . . . but it might give us the chance to win. You—New Capenna have played your part and made your sacrifices. Now it's our turn."
"Yes, ours." Della turned her face skyward as well as a mass of angels rose to the vacant portals, charging after the branches and into planes beyond.
"What's happening?"
"The angels are being unleashed into the Multiverse, bringing the power of Halo with them." Della's wings stretched further as her feet finally touched a solid rooftop and she released Errant.
"Is it the end?" Errant remained focused on the angels leaving New Capenna. They took their magic and might with them. But something assured her that New Capenna would be all right even without them. For once, they'd managed to work together. Perhaps it was the start of a bright new future.
"No," Della admitted, somewhat sadly. "This alone will not be enough to end this war . . . but it might give us the chance to win. You—New Capenna have played your part and made your sacrifices. Now it's our turn."
the other tribe might be angels
Maybe some additional combo potential with Elspeth -2 ability.
"Yes, ours." Della turned her face skyward as well as a mass of angels rose to the vacant portals, charging after the branches and into planes beyond.
"What's happening?"
"The angels are being unleashed into the Multiverse, bringing the power of Halo with them." Della's wings stretched further as her feet finally touched a solid rooftop and she released Errant.
"Is it the end?" Errant remained focused on the angels leaving New Capenna. They took their magic and might with them. But something assured her that New Capenna would be all right even without them. For once, they'd managed to work together. Perhaps it was the start of a bright new future.
"No," Della admitted, somewhat sadly. "This alone will not be enough to end this war . . . but it might give us the chance to win. You—New Capenna have played your part and made your sacrifices. Now it's our turn."
the other tribe might be angels
The Zendikar story has Linvala experience some inexplicable glowing, which is probably connected.
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Why is it a choice between clerics and soldiers? It's a phyrexian in a set that is known to have phyrexian tribal elements, so it would probably trigger off phyrexians.
I think you mean Baral, Chief of Compliance.
Do you guys still believe the RUMOR on Thalia becoming a MONO White walker too?
Or She might be turned as a Selenya Walker or a Boros Walker instead of being MONO.
or she be just a creature.
Correct me if im wrong the last standard set that I see white has multiple MONO WALKER was WAR of the spark.
So do you think their would be 2 white walker in this set or not?
We literally have Thalia appear in Thalia and the Gitrog Monster as a creature, so there's literally zero reason we should see her appear in another card or as a planeswalker.
WAR was also a 36 planeswalkers set. It was not a normal set. We can't use it as reference for nothing for normal sets.
Also yes, Elsepth is already revealed as the monowhite PW of the set, so that put the final nail in the coffin for color balance reasons.
For all that we know those might be the battles
I was pointing out the RUMOR in this thread (earlier pages) that Thalia might be turned into a planeswalker regarding Gitrog
that Thalia and Gitrog was not a normal set too it is a COMMANDER release so it's not an "ordinary set" too
while about WAR was more of an ordinary set than where Thalia and Gitrog is gonna be release because it was in Standard.
I was asking if they are still thinking if there was a chance that this MOTM would have two white walkers?
Was there even a RULE that it is only require to have one walker per mono color in a standard set?
things are unpredicatable with mtg nowadays thats kinda like early 2k when core set are just reprints and 3 expansion comes in one block. things change now you get textless lands and foil token nowadays.
•A creature card with Thalia on it
•A very, very story-hyped PW with Thalia's color identity
•Eight full episodes (and several side chapters) of story up, and no mention of Thalia, even in the Innistrad chapter
Considering all those factors, I really don't think WotC is going to pull something out of left field here.
White: Elspeth, Basri, Teyo, The Wanderer
Blue: Teferi, Tezzeret, Will, Mu Yanling
Red: Chandra, Koth, Sarkhan, Rowan
Green: Vivien, Garruk, Wrenn, Jiang
Black: Liliana, Sorin, Ob Nixilis, Davriel
I only picked up Planeswalker which had a representation as a mono-colored card and where we can assume the core color. Teferi and Tezzeret have the same amount of mono-blue or multicolor cards for example. Kasmina could be core blue but we only saw her twice and one was her uncommon card in War of the Spark. Narset is multicolor I think her one mono-colored card was in War of the spark. I am not sure with Davriel I would assume he is core black. Maybe black is a little short on Planeswalkers.
Black only has two PW's: Morally Ambiguous Murder Lady, and Cartoon Villain.
Okay I didnt double checked it, but still there is no such thing that one planeswalker pero mono.
Im not arguing or pointing see will strongly mono or she be a planeswalker, Im asking what are your thoughts about here from the initial rumor after the reveal of elspeth?
Plus I don't initially said she gonna be MONO. that she could be SELENYA or BOROS if not MONO because of Elspeth?
I was asking what are there thoughts about Thalia Rumor initially in the thread becoming a planeswalker?
not specifically abiut her being MONO but i was pointing out if she be DUAL color because of ELspeth reveal? do they still believe that Thalia would become a planeswalker or not because of Elspeth.
I never pointing out that she gonna be a mono white walker i was just stating that Elspeth not being walker in this set doesnt mean we couldnt have 2 walkers and that thalia could.be DUAL colored.
another to think about was the LASt set had tons of Urza and Mishra cards too.
So that Gitrog with Thalia doesn't nail the coffin possibility of Thalia becoming a WALKER.
FIRST of all your claim of a definite color balance is not some kind of FIX
and WAR is a also a STANDARD set like MOM/MOTM
my mistake is not looking into that thalia and gitrog was not a commander of MOTM yet that doesn't enought to invalidate the rumor
Urza and Mishra has multiple CREATURE CARD representation in the recent sets
lol why are you mad? Im not hoping she be a planeswalker im just askin what are the other thoughts about it
if she be turned Selenya or Boros after elspeth being revealed as white lol.
I dont really care whether she be Mono? I am asking if they turn her SELENYA or BOROS? what are their thoughts
thete no such delusional in that way? I didnt even started that rumor haha
there is no point to persist of whether she not or will be because there is a rumor and im just asking of thought about her being dual color PW
WAR is a unique case in 30 years of history of game, and could only happened because it was a 36 PW set, which is something that this set is NOT. Repeating it won't make you more right.
Urza and Mishra were the absolute main protagonists of Brother War set, exactly as Chandra was the main protagonist of Core Set 20 and thats why she appeared also multiple times. Thalia, as all the episodes of march of the machines proves, it's so marginal she barely is even mentioned at all. If even this doesn't convince you, is not my problem bud.
Everybody already answered and already gave their toughts on the matter. It's a rumor that doesn't make any sense for this set. She's monowhite as usual and her card is in Abzan color exclusively because of the Gitrog Monster, which is BG. There's nothing that should make us think that she will be a PW or dual colored for this set. Period.
First I ask the same question in the other thread and it's fine
look your the one who doesn't makes sense WHY?
because your persistent and obseses on like your claiming that there is rule and everything is set on stone and that format or pattern is something in every standard set. lol
WAR? come on theros before having enchantment creatures is unique too
artifact lands are also before unique to mirrodin
colored artifact were previously unique for alara
textless standard lands was before unique to zendikar
stop making thing up that their is some sort pattern or format for Thalia not or something.
I'm just asking question if people still think that thalia would became walker?
and im not saying she will be or not.
i have did the same question in elspeth thread but your the one tbat seems on gatekeeping so much on thalia posibilities.
I don't think there needs to be a big argument about it, either way.
Oh hey, I didn't catch that! Good eye.
Phyrexian instants/sorceries/enchantments seems ominous...but I feel like the typing is much more apt to be applied to Battles.
you mean phyrexian instant and sorceries?
like destroy all non-phyrexian creatures?
or target phyrexian creature get +3/+3 until eot?
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/where-to-find-march-of-the-machine-previews
With a new artwork of a Kaldheim Angel striking some tentacles.
Are you sure those aren’t braids? She seems to be fighting the realm breaker.
Gaze upon an empty, white throne
A legacy of lies,
A familiar disguise
Sing with me a song of conquest and fate
The black pillar cracks beneath its weight
Night breaks through the day, hard as a stone
Lost in thoughts all alone
look At this
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/magic-story/the-fall-of-park-heights
the other tribe might be angels
Maybe some additional combo potential with Elspeth -2 ability.
The Zendikar story has Linvala experience some inexplicable glowing, which is probably connected.