People still play Constructed formats anymore? (Besides Commander)
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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Also rotpriest needs a ban in standard. Ridiculously overpowered for one mana and makes for incredibly unfun play experience.
Rotpriest doesn't show up in tournaments anymore, just clogging the lower tiers of Arena ranked play. Green is currently unplayable in Standard, and you want to shoot down a green card?
I have quite different experience.
I am playing only unranked, and face them several times a day, either blue-green with Ivy, or mono green with Defend the Celestus.
They should ban it at least in Bo1, or ban it and replace with alchemy version: "Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell an opponent controls, target opponent gets a poison counter."
I have quite different experience.
I am playing only unranked, and face them several times a day, either blue-green with Ivy, or mono green with Defend the Celestus.
They should ban it at least in Bo1, or ban it and replace with alchemy version: "Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell an opponent controls, target opponent gets a poison counter."
Then maybe they need to adjust Rotpriest's unranked matchmaking weight. The banlist is meant to control decks and cards with excessive winrates or tournament dominance and Alchemy changes are for Alchemy.
Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone play Defend the Celestus period. If someone found a niche home for it, I say let them have their fun.
lol no bans for modern... Wizards should just say the format is officially dead instead of the house on fire "this is fine" stuff. It's pretty clear they want it to go away.
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Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone play Defend the Celestus period. If someone found a niche home for it, I say let them have their fun.
I play it in my werewolf deck usually as a combat surprise.
And this particularly I'm seeing a lot in unranked:
Turn 1 Forest + Rotpriest
Turn 2 Forest + second Rotpriest (or March of Burgeoning Life -> second Priest), green mana open for Tamiyo/Tyvar's "safekeeping"
Turn 4 Defend the Celestus - get from 6 to 12 poison counters, and cannot be responded to (countering/destroying won't help)
Maybe my unranked decks have similar matchmaking weight to Rotpriests...
Nothing to see here. Modern keeps being the garbage format since 2019.
As a casual modern player, can I ask you what changed in 2019 exactly that make you so upset?
latest modern masters. the format is currently based around free spells, nearly free spells and ragavan. meta is very hostile to anything less than the most afficient decks. being on the draw puts you far behind if only because of the number of times this means facing t1 monke.
this also made prices of cards from mm to be prohibitively high so financial barrier to entry is impossible for new players to overcome.
sadly reprinting ragavan in mom seems to indicate this will not change anytime soon.
Nothing to see here. Modern keeps being the garbage format since 2019.
As a casual modern player, can I ask you what changed in 2019 exactly that make you so upset?
2019 was the first Modern Horizons and War of the Spark. WAR was where they stopped caring about power balance in Standard, and while I felt MH1 was fine, it opened the door for MH2, which deliberately power crept hard enough to push most of the old format out, and has a case to be made as the most powerful 'no Moxen' set of all time, with the majority of that being at mythic.
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Nothing to see here. Modern keeps being the garbage format since 2019.
As a casual modern player, can I ask you what changed in 2019 exactly that make you so upset?
Disrespectful cashgrabbing powercreep?…
Powercreep happens all the time in Magic, it's a physiological process of every TCG honestly. This answer is not very informative. Can you be a bit more specific on what cards and/or decks your not happy with, specifically?
Nothing to see here. Modern keeps being the garbage format since 2019.
As a casual modern player, can I ask you what changed in 2019 exactly that make you so upset?
Disrespectful cashgrabbing powercreep?…
Powercreep happens all the time in Magic, it's a physiological process of every TCG honestly. This answer is not very informative. Can you be a bit more specific on what cards and/or decks your not happy with, specifically?
How long have you been playing Modern?
Since inception, but nowadays I just play it online on cockatrice. But why you are avoiding answering my question?
2019 was the first Modern Horizons and War of the Spark. WAR was where they stopped caring about power balance in Standard, and while I felt MH1 was fine, it opened the door for MH2, which deliberately power crept hard enough to push most of the old format out, and has a case to be made as the most powerful 'no Moxen' set of all time, with the majority of that being at mythic.
Thank you this is an actual answer. Yeah many of my old decks died, but always because WotC banned a key piece of them and never because I was suffering of power creep. The only deck I keep playing consistently are burn and mill because are pretty much one of the few archetypes that it get stronger in the last years, even if they are not tier 1 (but I said I am a casual player), and honestly I don't mind how's the meta currently, I've seen much worse in the past.
I say this is good news. I was worried they would change the actual Undercity dungeons (either move them around or nerf Trap!) instead of banning anything. WPA may be slightly weaker than Seasoned Dungeoneer in a vacuum, but with a lower density of enablers at a higher cost, White Initiative will likely shift to more RW to stay competitive, although I still don't feel like people have nailed down Archon of Emeria vs. Elite Spellbinder vs. Anointed Peacekeeper. Sad that RW loses out on the hard-to-pull-off but hilarious interaction of Reflection of Kiki-Jiki with WPA. But a sensible ban that cuts down those 'get the initiative on turn one and mash you for 11 unblockable on turn 2' games.
Also a little sad to see EI gone - RIP Hot Bant, we hardly knew ye. But if you're not banning Daze (and they're never banning Daze), you've got to keep cheap card advantage away from Delver or you pay the consequences. It'll still be a Tier 1 deck, of course. But hopefully a little less oppressive. And definitely not RIP to those turn sequences that went from an empty hand, board and graveyard to 'EI into EI next turn into Mystic Sanctuary, get EI, into EI, Daze my own EI, pick up Sanctuary, pay for Daze, into 6/6 Murktide, ready to play spells and Sanctuary again the next turn, just in case you didn't have enough cards yet. And that's without playing a DRC or anything. Good riddance.
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Modern is healthy. As in. healthy for Wizards profit since every competitive deck needs to put down tons of cash to buy the newly expensive cards from the latest modern-specific set. IOW, the for,mat works as planned as a money cow. We don't actually care if players stopped playing a format they had dozens of decks which we made obsolete by printing OP cards or banning their key cards in the past even though new cards are more powerful. Yeah, meaning Ragavan, Urza, pitch-card creatures existence does not mean Deathrite, birthing pod or twin are coming back. Pay up or shut up.
Modern is healthy. As in. healthy for Wizards profit since every competitive deck needs to put down tons of cash to buy the newly expensive cards from the latest modern-specific set. IOW, the for,mat works as planned as a money cow. We don't actually care if players stopped playing a format they had dozens of decks which we made obsolete by printing OP cards or banning their key cards in the past even though new cards are more powerful. Yeah, meaning Ragavan, Urza, pitch-card creatures existence does not mean Deathrite, birthing pod or twin are coming back. Pay up or shut up.
This is why I expect LotR to basically be Modern Horizons 3, so far every straight to Modern set has more or less flipped the format on its head and I'm expecting it to happen here too.
Modern is healthy. As in. healthy for Wizards profit since every competitive deck needs to put down tons of cash to buy the newly expensive cards from the latest modern-specific set. IOW, the for,mat works as planned as a money cow. We don't actually care if players stopped playing a format they had dozens of decks which we made obsolete by printing OP cards or banning their key cards in the past even though new cards are more powerful. Yeah, meaning Ragavan, Urza, pitch-card creatures existence does not mean Deathrite, birthing pod or twin are coming back. Pay up or shut up.
This is why I expect LotR to basically be Modern Horizons 3, so far every straight to Modern set has more or less flipped the format on its head and I'm expecting it to happen here too.
Based on the cards that got leaked and the fact it's Alchemy legal, I have my doubts that it's at Modern Horizons power level.
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Expressive Iteration and White Plume Adventurer got banned in legacy, no other changes.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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Also rotpriest needs a ban in standard. Ridiculously overpowered for one mana and makes for incredibly unfun play experience.
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Spoiler EditorI am playing only unranked, and face them several times a day, either blue-green with Ivy, or mono green with Defend the Celestus.
They should ban it at least in Bo1, or ban it and replace with alchemy version: "Whenever a creature you control becomes the target of a spell an opponent controls, target opponent gets a poison counter."
Then maybe they need to adjust Rotpriest's unranked matchmaking weight. The banlist is meant to control decks and cards with excessive winrates or tournament dominance and Alchemy changes are for Alchemy.
Also, I don't think I've ever seen anyone play Defend the Celestus period. If someone found a niche home for it, I say let them have their fun.
I play it in my werewolf deck
And this particularly I'm seeing a lot in unranked:
Turn 1 Forest + Rotpriest
Turn 2 Forest + second Rotpriest (or March of Burgeoning Life -> second Priest), green mana open for Tamiyo/Tyvar's "safekeeping"
Turn 4 Defend the Celestus - get from 6 to 12 poison counters, and cannot be responded to (countering/destroying won't help)
Maybe my unranked decks have similar matchmaking weight to Rotpriests...
this also made prices of cards from mm to be prohibitively high so financial barrier to entry is impossible for new players to overcome.
sadly reprinting ragavan in mom seems to indicate this will not change anytime soon.
2019 was the first Modern Horizons and War of the Spark. WAR was where they stopped caring about power balance in Standard, and while I felt MH1 was fine, it opened the door for MH2, which deliberately power crept hard enough to push most of the old format out, and has a case to be made as the most powerful 'no Moxen' set of all time, with the majority of that being at mythic.
I could hear Beavis & Butthead laughing when I read that card name. Uhuhuhuu
Disrespectful cashgrabbing powercreep?…
Correlation =/= causation, but if you've seen someone use Descent into Avernus in Legacy, I would love to know how they managed to make it work.
How long have you been playing Modern?
Since inception, but nowadays I just play it online on cockatrice. But why you are avoiding answering my question?
Thank you this is an actual answer. Yeah many of my old decks died, but always because WotC banned a key piece of them and never because I was suffering of power creep. The only deck I keep playing consistently are burn and mill because are pretty much one of the few archetypes that it get stronger in the last years, even if they are not tier 1 (but I said I am a casual player), and honestly I don't mind how's the meta currently, I've seen much worse in the past.
Also a little sad to see EI gone - RIP Hot Bant, we hardly knew ye. But if you're not banning Daze (and they're never banning Daze), you've got to keep cheap card advantage away from Delver or you pay the consequences. It'll still be a Tier 1 deck, of course. But hopefully a little less oppressive. And definitely not RIP to those turn sequences that went from an empty hand, board and graveyard to 'EI into EI next turn into Mystic Sanctuary, get EI, into EI, Daze my own EI, pick up Sanctuary, pay for Daze, into 6/6 Murktide, ready to play spells and Sanctuary again the next turn, just in case you didn't have enough cards yet. And that's without playing a DRC or anything. Good riddance.
This is why I expect LotR to basically be Modern Horizons 3, so far every straight to Modern set has more or less flipped the format on its head and I'm expecting it to happen here too.
Based on the cards that got leaked and the fact it's Alchemy legal, I have my doubts that it's at Modern Horizons power level.