I wish the sliver deck was using the better looking slivers :/
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Wait, if the Sliver commander is brand new, does he/she count among the 10 brand new cards in the deck?
I wonder if a new sliver legend will be a throwback to sliver queen and create tokens. I think an effective reprint with changing the cost to 3 to create the tokens or let you tap slivers to create more slivers is likely.
Not making a prediction, but the reserved list notably only forbids complete functional reprints and Sliver Queen is not exactly broken, so there's no particular reason they couldn't just print it as an otherwise identical 8/8.
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I'm pretty confident that they cannot make better versions of reserved list cards as it would almost certainly be against the spirit of the list.
They can colorshift the cards as we've seen with Ravenous Giant or make them similar but worse under specific conditions such as plague sliver. As it is, there are only a few ways to create sliver tokens, and none besides the queen can do it on a legendary creature.
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Wait, if the Sliver commander is brand new, does he/she count among the 10 brand new cards in the deck?
I wonder if a new sliver legend will be a throwback to sliver queen and create tokens. I think an effective reprint with changing the cost to 3 to create the tokens or let you tap slivers to create more slivers is likely.
Not making a prediction, but the reserved list notably only forbids complete functional reprints and Sliver Queen is not exactly broken, so there's no particular reason they couldn't just print it as an otherwise identical 8/8.
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I'm pretty confident that they cannot make better versions of reserved list cards as it would almost certainly be against the spirit of the list.
They can colorshift the cards as we've seen with Ravenous Giant or make them similar but worse under specific conditions such as plague sliver. As it is, there are only a few ways to create sliver tokens, and none besides the queen can do it on a legendary creature.
I wish the sliver deck was using the better looking slivers :/
Be nice If the new 5 color Sliver Commander's activated ability is the same as Sliver Queen's so that you can vomit your entire deck onto the battlefield with Primal Surge which should be in the Sliver Pre-Con IMO. One of my friends who used to play Commander built his Sliver Queen deck around that to where all the cards in the 99 were ALL permanent cards with no instants and sorceries. He allowed me to borrow the deck one time for a Commander game and I managed to get it off. It was gross. I remember having to tutor for Primal Surge to win the game via Vampiric Tutor. Just make sure to get Gemhide Sliver and Manaweft Sliver on the battlefield early to mid game to ramp like crazy with Intruder Alarm every time you make a Sliver.
I couldn't remember If the deck had any other win-cons but it did run Biomancer's Familiar, Training Grounds (also needs another reprint), and Zirda, the Dawnwaker to reduce Sliver Queen's ability to 1 or 0 colorless. It may also had Heartstone in the deck as well. Genesis Wave is another card that works similar to Primal Surge that I see doing really well in 5 color Slivers especially If you're able to get an infinite mana combo off just with permanents alone. I'm a bit curious on how my friend balanced the correct ratio of cards in the deck for it to get going. Of course my friend was running this deck before the pandemic but now he mostly just plays Warhammer 40k since Magic's gotten more expensive due to high market inflation.
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I'm here just waiting to see what thing in the eldrazi deck breaks legacy. There virtually has to be a new colorless land that produces multiple mana, and we already have Eye of Ugin and Eldrazi temple (both likely reprints I imagine, maybe even downshifts). I almost expect a colorless Sera's Sanctum/Cradle/Academy style thing. T reveal your hand, gain X colorless where X is the number of Eldrazi you reveal would be pretty fun, in line with Titans Presence style abilities that the Drazi had.
Likewise there are not a hell of a lot of purely colorless Sorceries and Instants, so I suspect they have to make one or 2 just to balance out the deck against the other precons. Exciting times for a player who REALLY wants to see eldrazi be a real deck in legacy again.
Hexproof would be amazing! Would a Sliver that creates stun counters be too good? They could price it one generic plus two hybrid U/W mana. Would they do hybrid Slivers in this set? That's still avenue of Sliver design not utilized yet.
So, Diffusion Sliver already basically does ward and I could see them being hesitant to make hexproof sliver, but a "Ward - pay X life" sliver seems very possible.
Given it's a commander deck, they might be inclined to focus new slivers on non-evergreen/non-deciduous mechanics that won't be good fits for potential future premier set slivers. Convoke, blitz, ninjutsu or eternalize come to mind as decent possibilities.
I might be pissed if all ten of those new cards AREN'T all Slivers. :lol
They've made Arcane Lighthouse as an answer to Shroud and Hexproof creatures, Diffusion Sliver gets around that card amusingly, or a future silver bullet that removes ward from creatures.
a future silver bullet that removes ward from creatures.
Hexproof and shroud need to be circumvented specifically, but there is no need to remove ward since there is already a fairlycommontext that overcomes ward.
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A ward Sliver with "Ward - Pay 3 life." would be amazing to sell this deck. As would a hexproof Sliver. If they can print True-Name Nemesis for merfolk, they can do a hexproof Sliver in this deck.
I know there's something amazing they're going to put on a sliver, that's going to come straight out of left field. Wonder what it is.
I also wonder if the eldrazi deck will continue the trend toward stuff like Devoid/Ingest, or hearken back a bit to the Annihilator mechanic.
These decks would be legacy format legal, that format could handle Slivers getting a crazy ability. Most competitive commander decks don't appear to use The First Sliver and it's modern legal, despite what Evil Never Dies says. He/She could prove me wrong on that.
I know there's something amazing they're going to put on a sliver, that's going to come straight out of left field. Wonder what it is.
I also wonder if the eldrazi deck will continue the trend toward stuff like Devoid/Ingest, or hearken back a bit to the Annihilator mechanic.
These decks would be legacy format legal, that format could handle Slivers getting a crazy ability. Most competitive commander decks don't appear to use The First Sliver and it's modern legal, despite what Evil Never Dies says. He/She could prove me wrong on that.
The First Sliver was in competitive Commander decks mostly as a 5-color Food Chain commander, as a different option to Niv-Mizzet Reborn. However, the latter's decks got better over time, and the Sliver got vastly outnumbered.
I don't know a damn thing about what works best in competitive MtG, and I like it that way. But when I say "amazing but completely out of left field," I mean something like:
○ "Slivers you control have 'when this creature enters the battlefield, create a creature token that's a copy of target nontoken Sliver you control'."
○ "Slivers you control have 'when this creature enters the battlefield, destroy target nonbasic land."
○ "Slivers you control have '3: Exile this creature, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control."
Et cetera. At this point I consider a sliver that grants Toxic 1 to be a given, but maybe there'll be other keywords in there like Undying or Ninjutsu. Still no idea what crazy ability they'll put on the commander.
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Why would a blink effect on a Sliver be crazy, outside of Dregscape Sliver?
Lavabelly Sliver was the first one that came to mind. I was also thinking about stuff like Molten Echoes or Warstorm Surge. You're right, though; apart from Lavabelly and Dregscape, there's not that much synergy with other slivers.
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I'm pretty confident that they cannot make better versions of reserved list cards as it would almost certainly be against the spirit of the list.
They can colorshift the cards as we've seen with Ravenous Giant or make them similar but worse under specific conditions such as plague sliver. As it is, there are only a few ways to create sliver tokens, and none besides the queen can do it on a legendary creature.
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Guided Strike is a better Lightning Blow, Mercurial Spelldancer is a better River Merfolk, Doom Whisperer is better than both Morinfen and Gallowbraid.
Also, reprints with different backs was against the "spirit of the reserved list."
actually that’s a good point
They could reprints these with the proper slivers bodies
https://scryfall.com/search?q=type:sliver (set:m14 or set:m15)&unique=cards&as=grid&order=edhrec
It'll be rare, for sure, but that should still bring the price down on it.
I couldn't remember If the deck had any other win-cons but it did run Biomancer's Familiar, Training Grounds (also needs another reprint), and Zirda, the Dawnwaker to reduce Sliver Queen's ability to 1 or 0 colorless. It may also had Heartstone in the deck as well. Genesis Wave is another card that works similar to Primal Surge that I see doing really well in 5 color Slivers especially If you're able to get an infinite mana combo off just with permanents alone. I'm a bit curious on how my friend balanced the correct ratio of cards in the deck for it to get going. Of course my friend was running this deck before the pandemic but now he mostly just plays Warhammer 40k since Magic's gotten more expensive due to high market inflation.
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Likewise there are not a hell of a lot of purely colorless Sorceries and Instants, so I suspect they have to make one or 2 just to balance out the deck against the other precons. Exciting times for a player who REALLY wants to see eldrazi be a real deck in legacy again.
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from the new cards unless they are too scared because of the shroud sliver we will see a ward or hexproof sliver
Outside of the Starter Commander decks that just came out? Don't believe so.
Given it's a commander deck, they might be inclined to focus new slivers on non-evergreen/non-deciduous mechanics that won't be good fits for potential future premier set slivers. Convoke, blitz, ninjutsu or eternalize come to mind as decent possibilities.
They've made Arcane Lighthouse as an answer to Shroud and Hexproof creatures, Diffusion Sliver gets around that card amusingly, or a future silver bullet that removes ward from creatures.
Hexproof and shroud need to be circumvented specifically, but there is no need to remove ward since there is already a fairly common text that overcomes ward.
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I also wonder if the eldrazi deck will continue the trend toward stuff like Devoid/Ingest, or hearken back a bit to the Annihilator mechanic.
These decks would be legacy format legal, that format could handle Slivers getting a crazy ability. Most competitive commander decks don't appear to use The First Sliver and it's modern legal, despite what Evil Never Dies says. He/She could prove me wrong on that.
○ "Slivers you control have 'when this creature enters the battlefield, create a creature token that's a copy of target nontoken Sliver you control'."
○ "Slivers you control have 'when this creature enters the battlefield, destroy target nonbasic land."
○ "Slivers you control have '3: Exile this creature, then return it to the battlefield under its owner's control."
Et cetera. At this point I consider a sliver that grants Toxic 1 to be a given, but maybe there'll be other keywords in there like Undying or Ninjutsu. Still no idea what crazy ability they'll put on the commander.
Lavabelly Sliver was the first one that came to mind. I was also thinking about stuff like Molten Echoes or Warstorm Surge. You're right, though; apart from Lavabelly and Dregscape, there's not that much synergy with other slivers.