And finally, here is the rest of the Forces of the Imperium precon. As with the previous preocn list threads, there will be a lot of cards in this thread, between new cards and reprints with new art. Decklist is here.
First off, more legends. We have the big representatives from the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Inquisitors, and the Rogue Traders.
As was expected from the Imperium deck, there is a big showing of the Space Marines. The Firstborn Space Marines are mostly monowhite (and one multicolor card), while the Primaris Space Marines are mostly black-based (except for the colorless Dreadnought).
The Adepta Sororitas get a surprising amount of cards too, with all but one carrying the miracle mechanic. They even have their weird Arco-Flagellators around.
The Adeptus Mechanicum have a few extra options too, along with a lot of Vehicles to bolster them and the rest of the deck. This includes a card depicting one of the most expensive kits in the game.
As a deck led by an Inquisitor, the deck does have some extra options flavored for them. Okay, anyone can hire the Callidus Assassins.
The rest of the Imperium factions represented in the deck are the Custodes, the Sisters of Silence, the Grey Knights, and the Imperial Guard. While the first two are limited to one card each (matching the Saga lol), the Grey Knights get a quote on one reprint, while the Imperial Guard is covered by most of the monowhite reprints.
And now, the reprints. White's reprints are almost all flavored for the Imperial Guard, barring Lord Commander of the Imperium/Imperial Regent/Primarch Roboute Guilliman and his Ultramarines in Collective Effort, the Cannoness Lucretia of the Adepta Sororitas in Fell the Mighty and the Knights of Blood chapter in Hour of Reckoning. Funnily enough, those are from the same campaign against the Tyranids. The reprints also have the one creature card reprint across all the precons.
As with the other precons with blue, we get exactly one blue reprint and two multicolor reprints. Unlike the other precons with blue, neither of these multicolor cards are blue.
The tokens of the set represent the numerous armies of the Imperium across its multiple branches, distributed among ten double-faced tokens. Here, each Soldier token has a Squad token on its back, while the Astartes Warriors have the other tokens (including the Clue) on their backsides. Note that each row of tokens presented here moving forward represents 1 double-faced token.
Man, 40k aesthetics are so unpleasant. The "good guys" are even uglier and more unsympathetic than the bad guys.
Wait chaos, tyranids and necrons are more sympathetic to you than empire?
Interesting take for sure
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Man, 40k aesthetics are so unpleasant. The "good guys" are even uglier and more unsympathetic than the bad guys.
Wait chaos, tyranids and necrons are more sympathetic to you than empire?
Interesting take for sure
Tyranids are probably the most sympathetic of all 40k races since they're driven almost entirely by instinct as an invasive predator species. The Imperium of Man are basically space nazis, the Tau are every bad stereotype about communists rolled into one, the Eldar are hyper-douche space elves who started all the problems, the Dark Eldar are the same, but proud of the latter, Chaos are just violence junkies, Necrons are pure death machines, and the Orks are... well Orks.
Man, 40k aesthetics are so unpleasant. The "good guys" are even uglier and more unsympathetic than the bad guys.
Wait chaos, tyranids and necrons are more sympathetic to you than empire?
Interesting take for sure
It's not an unreasonable take. I'd prefer mass murderers that are fully aware they are evil over self-righteous, holier-than-thou mass murderers. So I like the Necrons the best.
Please, mill me. Mill my important cards. Mill my lands. Mill it all. Because I will still deal 20 damage before you can mill 45 cards most every time.
This entire 40K product competes with the DND sets for title of most repulsive product in MTG for me
Its better than sets that feature Planes that are just straight lifting of Mythology rather than something more unique like Dominaria imo.
Even when they do "real world mythology, but in Magic" they usually add some unique elements that I can be excited about. Meanwhile, this whole thing is just "I don't care and I wish it didn't exist" material to me.
This entire 40K product competes with the DND sets for title of most repulsive product in MTG for me
Its better than sets that feature Planes that are just straight lifting of Mythology rather than something more unique like Dominaria imo.
Even when they do "real world mythology, but in Magic" they usually add some unique elements that I can be excited about. Meanwhile, this whole thing is just "I don't care and I wish it didn't exist" material to me.
Yeah, original source material that has stood the test of time for millennia, no less. I admire Magic's unique interpretations and adaptations. Perhaps there is an audience for this 40K nonsense, but it certainly isn't me. What a waste of Commander products this year. At least the Dominaria ones were good. But I miss when the decks pulled from various Magic planes and lore, not outside franchises and/or were locked to one set.
Its better than sets that feature Planes that are just straight lifting of Mythology rather than something more unique like Dominaria imo.
While yes, more original ideas are better than "this idea, but with my spin on it", I will say that using other IP is nowhere near better than using mythology.
Imagine complaining about a product for a niche audience while they already have a niche product for a hobby. Quite a few people are warhammer 40k fans who also play magic.
Imagine complaining about a product for a niche audience while they already have a niche product for a hobby. Quite a few people are warhammer 40k fans who also play magic.
But this isn't just one product, UB is a series of them to try and make a quick buck by turning Magic into yet another IP train, 'cause apparently you can't have a product anymore, you have to have cross promotional thing to attract some short term buyers.
I bought the MLP promo set, but the difference is those are silver border cards and aren't really meant for normal play. I don't know about you, but I don't need to see Gandalf wielding the nail bat from Walking Dead while crewing spaceship from 40k in Vintage/Legacy.
Imagine complaining about a product for a niche audience while they already have a niche product for a hobby. Quite a few people are warhammer 40k fans who also play magic.
But this isn't just one product, UB is a series of them to try and make a quick buck by turning Magic into yet another IP train, 'cause apparently you can't have a product anymore, you have to have cross promotional thing to attract some short term buyers.
I bought the MLP promo set, but the difference is those are silver border cards and aren't really meant for normal play. I don't know about you, but I don't need to see Gandalf wielding the nail bat from Walking Dead while crewing spaceship from 40k in Vintage/Legacy.
You have some high hopes if you think anything here other than the basics will see play in Legacy or Vintage.
Its better than sets that feature Planes that are just straight lifting of Mythology rather than something more unique like Dominaria imo.
While yes, more original ideas are better than "this idea, but with my spin on it", I will say that using other IP is nowhere near better than using mythology.
Imagine complaining about a product for a niche audience while they already have a niche product for a hobby. Quite a few people are warhammer 40k fans who also play magic.
But this isn't just one product, UB is a series of them to try and make a quick buck by turning Magic into yet another IP train, 'cause apparently you can't have a product anymore, you have to have cross promotional thing to attract some short term buyers.
I bought the MLP promo set, but the difference is those are silver border cards and aren't really meant for normal play. I don't know about you, but I don't need to see Gandalf wielding the nail bat from Walking Dead while crewing spaceship from 40k in Vintage/Legacy.
You have some high hopes if you think anything here other than the basics will see play in Legacy or Vintage.
Give it time. Eventually a card will slip through.
Imagine complaining about a product for a niche audience while they already have a niche product for a hobby. Quite a few people are warhammer 40k fans who also play magic.
But this isn't just one product, UB is a series of them to try and make a quick buck by turning Magic into yet another IP train, 'cause apparently you can't have a product anymore, you have to have cross promotional thing to attract some short term buyers.
I bought the MLP promo set, but the difference is those are silver border cards and aren't really meant for normal play. I don't know about you, but I don't need to see Gandalf wielding the nail bat from Walking Dead while crewing spaceship from 40k in Vintage/Legacy.
You have some high hopes if you think anything here other than the basics will see play in Legacy or Vintage.
Give it time. Eventually a card will slip through.
How about we do that when the problem is already obvious? This is like everyone going around for the past two years thinking every set has that one card that broke Vintage because Lurrus existed. Right now, the most likely card to make it into Legacy and/or Vintage is Poxwalkers for being one of those creatures that brings itself back from the graveyard for free, however it is a three-drop that ETBs tapped. If that's the ceiling, then there's nothing to be afraid of for this product in particular.
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Spoiler EditorFirst off, more legends. We have the big representatives from the Adeptus Mechanicus, the Inquisitors, and the Rogue Traders.
As was expected from the Imperium deck, there is a big showing of the Space Marines. The Firstborn Space Marines are mostly monowhite (and one multicolor card), while the Primaris Space Marines are mostly black-based (except for the colorless Dreadnought).
The Adepta Sororitas get a surprising amount of cards too, with all but one carrying the miracle mechanic. They even have their weird Arco-Flagellators around.
The Adeptus Mechanicum have a few extra options too, along with a lot of Vehicles to bolster them and the rest of the deck. This includes a card depicting one of the most expensive kits in the game.
As a deck led by an Inquisitor, the deck does have some extra options flavored for them. Okay, anyone can hire the Callidus Assassins.
The rest of the Imperium factions represented in the deck are the Custodes, the Sisters of Silence, the Grey Knights, and the Imperial Guard. While the first two are limited to one card each (matching the Saga lol), the Grey Knights get a quote on one reprint, while the Imperial Guard is covered by most of the monowhite reprints.
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Spoiler EditorAs with the other precons with blue, we get exactly one blue reprint and two multicolor reprints. Unlike the other precons with blue, neither of these multicolor cards are blue.
Skullclamp is joined by mana rocks for the deck's artifact reprints. This includes new flavor for three reprints found in other decks: Commander's Sphere, Mind Stone, and Talisman of Dominance. The mot important (and expensive) reprint here is Talisman of Progress, reprinted for the first time in 11 years.
Here are the nonbasic land reprints of the set. This deck shares Choked Estuary, Dismal Backwater, and Sunken Hollow with the Chaos precon; and Evolving Wilds, Exotic Orchard, Path of Ancestry, and Terramorphic Expanse with the Tyranid precon.
As with the previous precons, there is a set of basic lands with unique art in the deck. The distribution is 8 Plains, 5 Islands, and 7 Swamps.
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Spoiler Editorthe finally listen to us on stoping putting skullclamps on heads in thr art and put the clamp…
ON A ACTUAL SKULL!
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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Spoiler EditorI wouldn't call the Imperium the good guys.
Wait chaos, tyranids and necrons are more sympathetic to you than empire?
Interesting take for sure
Tyranids are probably the most sympathetic of all 40k races since they're driven almost entirely by instinct as an invasive predator species. The Imperium of Man are basically space nazis, the Tau are every bad stereotype about communists rolled into one, the Eldar are hyper-douche space elves who started all the problems, the Dark Eldar are the same, but proud of the latter, Chaos are just violence junkies, Necrons are pure death machines, and the Orks are... well Orks.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Its better than sets that feature Planes that are just straight lifting of Mythology rather than something more unique like Dominaria imo.
Current EDH Decks:
Dakkon Blackblade 2WUUB
More than the whole black and white set?
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Yeah, original source material that has stood the test of time for millennia, no less. I admire Magic's unique interpretations and adaptations. Perhaps there is an audience for this 40K nonsense, but it certainly isn't me. What a waste of Commander products this year. At least the Dominaria ones were good. But I miss when the decks pulled from various Magic planes and lore, not outside franchises and/or were locked to one set.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
While yes, more original ideas are better than "this idea, but with my spin on it", I will say that using other IP is nowhere near better than using mythology.
But this isn't just one product, UB is a series of them to try and make a quick buck by turning Magic into yet another IP train, 'cause apparently you can't have a product anymore, you have to have cross promotional thing to attract some short term buyers.
I bought the MLP promo set, but the difference is those are silver border cards and aren't really meant for normal play. I don't know about you, but I don't need to see Gandalf wielding the nail bat from Walking Dead while crewing spaceship from 40k in Vintage/Legacy.
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Spoiler EditorAnything's better than Theros tbh.
Current EDH Decks:
Dakkon Blackblade 2WUUB
Give it time. Eventually a card will slip through.
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