I played Zendikar pre-release. Only the first edition printings contained the treasures.
One guy 2 rows down opened a Scrubland. That's the only card I ever saw in person (we were also not allowed to play with them).
You can find some vids on YT of some openings with some treasures. Some could be fake, it's hard to tell. But it was true, this did happen.
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
It's a cool gimmick that will have no impact on pack prices.
"Guys! We just had players buy $16 packs, what should we do next?"
"Well the whales bought $50 packs and normals paid $16, so we can easily do $20 packs"
"Let the whaling begin!" *Sea shanty intensifies.*
I wasn't interested before in these and now I'm less interested in them. Even if I was rich I can't imaging buying these for a $2 legend.
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
I am more interested in the cards not included - there can't be some sort of licensing issue as they are just repackaging the cards (It seemed that Harold McNeil was left out for one - possibly because of his political leanings). Gwendlyn because of her profession? But craw giant, pyrotechnics? It's not artist (they would have mentioned crookshank kobolds, spinal villain, etc)
And what of the cards they didn't include - did they just bonfire Cleanse/pradesh gypsies/imprison cards - cards that were much more questionable bannings than say invoke prejudice (I mean seriously - we all knew that card was wrong in 94).
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
I am more interested in the cards not included - there can't be some sort of licensing issue as they are just repackaging the cards (It seemed that Harold McNeil was left out for one - possibly because of his political leanings). Gwendlyn because of her profession? But craw giant, pyrotechnics? It's not artist (they would have mentioned crookshank kobolds, spinal villain, etc)
And what of the cards they didn't include - did they just bonfire Cleanse/pradesh gypsies/imprison cards - cards that were much more questionable bannings than say invoke prejudice (I mean seriously - we all knew that card was wrong in 94).
I can guess at a couple possibilities. On one hand, there's a few of the cards that might have been revoked for similar reasons to Pradesh et al, even if they didn't hit the threshold for banning from the card image gallery entirely. Stuff like Barbary Apes and Pyrotechnics (due to featuring the name Navajo, which may not the be preferred naming for the tribe) strike me as likely candidates for that. On the other hand, for a promotion where they know players are going to probably compare notes/post stories on line, they may have set a minimum number of a card opened to include it? If (due to similar print run weirdness) they only opened say, 3 Sylvan Libraries, leaving it on the list of cards in the set might get them blasted later if none of those 3 are opened by someone who posts it online. ...That said, I only just noticed that all the money cards on the list of "opened but left out" are Harold's, so I'm leaning away from the second reason.
Original Legends Sylvan Library was an uncommon, and considering they cracked at least several dozen boxes, maybe a lot more, there should be enough to go around.
I was under the impression that with those older RL cards that the artists owned to rights to the art. It’s highly possible, if this is the case, that Harold didn’t grant WOTC permission to use his art. He has stated publicly that he regrets having done art for “something so cracky”.
Although it more likely that WOTC has no interest in financially supporting him, if this is indeed the case.
Well, if we assume these are real Legends boxes (and as has been stated many times, trying to newly print original Legends-like cards is essentially impossible), then Wizards owns them, can do with them whatever they want. I don't think that involves royalties in any form or fashion, the artists got paid - potentially, at least - in some form connected to the print run and these boxes are part of that print run.
I think it's much more likely WotC didn't want to give McNeill any more exposure whatsoever.
One guy 2 rows down opened a Scrubland. That's the only card I ever saw in person (we were also not allowed to play with them).
You can find some vids on YT of some openings with some treasures. Some could be fake, it's hard to tell. But it was true, this did happen.
Anyways, now that we know its confirmed to be Legends, most folks only think about the RL stuff, but don't realize that Legends was a gargantuan set with an insane amount of chaff. Plus I heard a rumour that they were boxes that had been sent back to WotC for being defective back in the day (either containing cards from Sheet A or B but not both).
It's a cool gimmick that will have no impact on pack prices.
"Well the whales bought $50 packs and normals paid $16, so we can easily do $20 packs"
"Let the whaling begin!" *Sea shanty intensifies.*
I wasn't interested before in these and now I'm less interested in them. Even if I was rich I can't imaging buying these for a $2 legend.
They confirmed exactly which cards will be available. There's a list of cards they just didn't open due to print run weirdness: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/lost-legends-2022-07-21
Good to see some transparency.
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That errata existed from day one of the cards release.
I am more interested in the cards not included - there can't be some sort of licensing issue as they are just repackaging the cards (It seemed that Harold McNeil was left out for one - possibly because of his political leanings). Gwendlyn because of her profession? But craw giant, pyrotechnics? It's not artist (they would have mentioned crookshank kobolds, spinal villain, etc)
And what of the cards they didn't include - did they just bonfire Cleanse/pradesh gypsies/imprison cards - cards that were much more questionable bannings than say invoke prejudice (I mean seriously - we all knew that card was wrong in 94).
True, but kinda like saying Jeffrey Dahmer was imprisoned for his eating habits.
Although it more likely that WOTC has no interest in financially supporting him, if this is indeed the case.
I think it's much more likely WotC didn't want to give McNeill any more exposure whatsoever.