And the trend continues. Shove all the value in the mythic slot. Get those players to gamble.
Most of the rares I've seen so far could have been downgraded to uncommon as well. I'll say it again, every pack in this set should have a guaranteed mythic in it to justify the pack price.
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I thought so too, but according to Scryfall it's just a plain ol' Sphinx.
But awesome reprint. I bet a lot of these will depreciate in value once they're in circulation but still...more access is never something to whine about.
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Not adding "phyrexian" to the most relevant, powerful Sphinx ever made for EDH it's the worst mistake they could ever do. Not to mention the flavor fail. We can't be hostage of absurd niche reprints, this actively hurts future gameplay for any tribal phyrexian deck.
Not adding "phyrexian" to the most relevant, powerful Sphinx ever made for EDH it's the worst mistake they could ever do. Not to mention the flavor fail. We can't be hostage of absurd niche reprints, this actively hurts future gameplay for any tribal phyrexian deck.
i don't agree here.
not giving the phyrexian creature type allows for it to be reprint much more easily. boohoo your tribe doesn't get it, not everything needs to be phyrexianized just because one version of the art has it depicted that way. honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line because their whole schtick is compleating existing species anyway. so by including that type you just limit where things can show up again.
then again its not like they actually ******* reprint anything in sets that aren't at a premium markup or as some special super rare alt frame these days either so...
Not adding "phyrexian" to the most relevant, powerful Sphinx ever made for EDH it's the worst mistake they could ever do. Not to mention the flavor fail. We can't be hostage of absurd niche reprints, this actively hurts future gameplay for any tribal phyrexian deck.
i don't agree here.
not giving the phyrexian creature type allows for it to be reprint much more easily. boohoo your tribe doesn't get it, not everything needs to be phyrexianized just because one version of the art has it depicted that way. honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line because their whole schtick is compleating existing species anyway. so by including that type you just limit where things can show up again.
then again its not like they actually ******* reprint anything in sets that aren't at a premium markup or as some special super rare alt frame these days either so...
You piss and moan when the cards aren’t expensive and you piss and moan when the cards are expensive. Every post you’ve made re: 2xm2 has been a complaint, and 90% of those have been copy/paste whining regardless of the card. You realize when you complain about every card you’re just white noise, right?
Maybe this game isn’t for you. I couldn’t imagine sitting down at a table against someone so toxically miserable.
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Not adding "phyrexian" to the most relevant, powerful Sphinx ever made for EDH it's the worst mistake they could ever do. Not to mention the flavor fail. We can't be hostage of absurd niche reprints, this actively hurts future gameplay for any tribal phyrexian deck.
i don't agree here.
not giving the phyrexian creature type allows for it to be reprint much more easily. boohoo your tribe doesn't get it, not everything needs to be phyrexianized just because one version of the art has it depicted that way. honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line because their whole schtick is compleating existing species anyway. so by including that type you just limit where things can show up again.
then again its not like they actually ******* reprint anything in sets that aren't at a premium markup or as some special super rare alt frame these days either so...
You piss and moan when the cards aren’t expensive and you piss and moan when the cards are expensive. Every post you’ve made re: 2xm2 has been a complaint, and 90% of those have been copy/paste whining regardless of the card. You realize when you complain about every card you’re just white noise, right?
Maybe this game isn’t for you. I couldn’t imagine sitting down at a table against someone so toxically miserable.
thats what im wondering about card slinger and a few other members here
why even talk about it or play the game if you retiring or always negative on cards.
not giving the phyrexian creature type allows for it to be reprint much more easily.
That isn't true at all at least for supplemental sets. Even with "phyrexian" word, Sphinx can be still printed in literally any commander / battlebond / conspiracy type product and would be plenty available for anyone. Also, Sphinx was never reprinnted for over a decade in a standard legal set even before the phyrexian update and when was simply a "sphinx", so what you are saying doesn't hold water with how facts are at all. (and even there, you could simply reprint the sphinx in any core set with or without the phyrexian creature type, literally nothing prevents that since core sets have reprints from any world and lore).
boohoo your tribe doesn't get it, not everything needs to be phyrexianized just because one version of the art has it depicted that way.
Dude, first of all, is not "one version", but the original printing of the card, with her original flavor, that even f**king has in flavor text "Blessed from the hands of Jin-Gitaxias", which means that the Consecrated Sphinx is canonically phyrexian in the lore and was compleated indeed from Gitaxias hands in New Phyrexia, unlike the stupid secret lair and amonkhet printings wich were made anyway before phyrexian type was a thing yet.
honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line
No, the biggest **** up is that the Sphinx is currently the only creature card in existence with a phyrexian watermark that isn't a phyrexian, try to explain that to players that own the card and wants to make phyrexian tribal deck that some niche and obscure exclusve reprints have more relevance than that. And please don't do mirror climbing quoting other reprinting because the kaladesh reprint of Wurmcoil Engine just show WotC the incompetent inconsistency and can't be excused.
honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line
No, the biggest **** up is that the Sphinx is currently the only creature card in existence with a phyrexian watermark that isn't a phyrexian, try to explain that to players that own the card and wants to make phyrexian tribal deck that some niche and obscure exclusve reprints have more relevance than that. And please don't do mirror climbing quoting other reprinting because the kaladesh reprint of Wurmcoil Engine just show WotC the incompetent inconsistency and can't be excused.
Since it looks like any plane with sphinxes and god-tier entities can consecrate their sphinxes, I'm actually perfectly fine with creatures with Phyrexian watermarks without the Phyrexian creature type, including Consecrated Sphinx. Now them putting the Phyrexian creature type on Wurmcoil Engine given the existing Kaladesh reprint looks like the real mess-up.
Both Consecrated Sphinx and Wurmcoil Engine can be Phyrexian Brand, Trademark And Watermark And Flavour Text Included. Neither of them must have the Phyrexian creature type.
. Now them putting the Phyrexian creature type on Wurmcoil Engine given the existing Kaladesh reprint looks like the real mess-up.
Yes, it is a real mess up. That's why WoTC have literally no excuse. This is just wrong, in one way or another, no matter how you see it.
Since it looks like any plane with sphinxes and god-tier entities can consecrate their sphinxes,
Sure, but use that flavor for another new damn made up Sphinx , like, I don't know, Dedicated Sphinx, Hallow Sphinx, Sphinx of Consecration or whatever equivalent synonimous you can come up with. Not with a god-tier level Sphinx like this one. It's almost like True-Name Nemesis wouldn't be a merfolk anymore. Would be still a great card, but not being merfolk would give a severe damage to any legacy merfolk deck (of course it's not exactly the same, just to give the idea of how much the Sphinx would be such a great boon for phyrexian tribal - and we will have our phyrexian tribal commander, it's just a matteer of time.)
Both Consecrated Sphinx and Wurmcoil Engine can be Phyrexian Brand, Trademark And Watermark And Flavour Text Included. Neither of them must have the Phyrexian creature type.
Having the phyrexian watermark was exactly one of the main criterias they used to recognize what should be phyrexian in the game and what not. The most simple, intuitive and elegant one also. And the Sphinx was still a phyrexian on MTGO when they revealed us for the first time the phyrexian update. I really don't understand how they could mess up this one this badly.
Despite being consumed by the black oil, it's still wise enough to know not to openly associate with the Phyrexians, so it hides its affiliation with subtle deception and mind games.
Good lord. There are reasonable things to complain about here, but not typing Consecrated Sphinx as phyrexian for a really obvious reason is not one of them. Oh no, one of the top commander cards won't have perfect synergy with a hypothetical future deck you might build some day with cards that don't exist yet! Tragic!
Good lord. There are reasonable things to complain about here, but not typing Consecrated Sphinx as phyrexian for a really obvious reason is not one of them. Oh no, one of the top commander cards won't have perfect synergy with a hypothetical future deck you might build some day with cards that don't exist yet! Tragic!
Yes, it is one of them, no it is not obvious at all and was already explainend why, and yes, it is indeed tragic in my book, because I can't just ask players to "house-rule" this stuff, I expect to be able to play in official tournaments of any format this sinergy. Just because you won't care about phyrexian tribal doesn't mean for other players is not important for their gameplay and flavor experience. I'm both disappointed as a Vorthos and as a player for whoever is responsible of this unforgivable mistake.
(And by the way, I don't even care this is a master product, I would complain about this change in the same identical way in any random product they would print the Sphinx without the phyrexian type)
Another downshift, another big Commander mythic. This might just be how preview season goes.
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Most of the rares I've seen so far could have been downgraded to uncommon as well. I'll say it again, every pack in this set should have a guaranteed mythic in it to justify the pack price.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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I thought so too, but according to Scryfall it's just a plain ol' Sphinx.
But awesome reprint. I bet a lot of these will depreciate in value once they're in circulation but still...more access is never something to whine about.
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I can explain that
wizards opened Pandora’s box and thought phyrexian typing would never happen
It couldn't get the typing because of these 2 arts
In my opinion it’s not a excuse since wurmcoil engine, Eastern Paladin, and Western Paladin also has non-phyrexian art and still got the phyrexian typing.
i don't agree here.
not giving the phyrexian creature type allows for it to be reprint much more easily. boohoo your tribe doesn't get it, not everything needs to be phyrexianized just because one version of the art has it depicted that way. honestly i think the biggest ****up was even adding the phyrexian type line because their whole schtick is compleating existing species anyway. so by including that type you just limit where things can show up again.
then again its not like they actually ******* reprint anything in sets that aren't at a premium markup or as some special super rare alt frame these days either so...
You piss and moan when the cards aren’t expensive and you piss and moan when the cards are expensive. Every post you’ve made re: 2xm2 has been a complaint, and 90% of those have been copy/paste whining regardless of the card. You realize when you complain about every card you’re just white noise, right?
Maybe this game isn’t for you. I couldn’t imagine sitting down at a table against someone so toxically miserable.
thats what im wondering about card slinger and a few other members here
why even talk about it or play the game if you retiring or always negative on cards.
That isn't true at all at least for supplemental sets. Even with "phyrexian" word, Sphinx can be still printed in literally any commander / battlebond / conspiracy type product and would be plenty available for anyone. Also, Sphinx was never reprinnted for over a decade in a standard legal set even before the phyrexian update and when was simply a "sphinx", so what you are saying doesn't hold water with how facts are at all. (and even there, you could simply reprint the sphinx in any core set with or without the phyrexian creature type, literally nothing prevents that since core sets have reprints from any world and lore).
Dude, first of all, is not "one version", but the original printing of the card, with her original flavor, that even f**king has in flavor text "Blessed from the hands of Jin-Gitaxias", which means that the Consecrated Sphinx is canonically phyrexian in the lore and was compleated indeed from Gitaxias hands in New Phyrexia, unlike the stupid secret lair and amonkhet printings wich were made anyway before phyrexian type was a thing yet.
No, the biggest **** up is that the Sphinx is currently the only creature card in existence with a phyrexian watermark that isn't a phyrexian, try to explain that to players that own the card and wants to make phyrexian tribal deck that some niche and obscure exclusve reprints have more relevance than that. And please don't do mirror climbing quoting other reprinting because the kaladesh reprint of Wurmcoil Engine just show WotC the incompetent inconsistency and can't be excused.
Since it looks like any plane with sphinxes and god-tier entities can consecrate their sphinxes, I'm actually perfectly fine with creatures with Phyrexian watermarks without the Phyrexian creature type, including Consecrated Sphinx. Now them putting the Phyrexian creature type on Wurmcoil Engine given the existing Kaladesh reprint looks like the real mess-up.
Both Consecrated Sphinx and Wurmcoil Engine can be Phyrexian Brand, Trademark And Watermark And Flavour Text Included. Neither of them must have the Phyrexian creature type.
Yes, it is a real mess up. That's why WoTC have literally no excuse. This is just wrong, in one way or another, no matter how you see it.
Sure, but use that flavor for another new damn made up Sphinx , like, I don't know, Dedicated Sphinx, Hallow Sphinx, Sphinx of Consecration or whatever equivalent synonimous you can come up with. Not with a god-tier level Sphinx like this one. It's almost like True-Name Nemesis wouldn't be a merfolk anymore. Would be still a great card, but not being merfolk would give a severe damage to any legacy merfolk deck (of course it's not exactly the same, just to give the idea of how much the Sphinx would be such a great boon for phyrexian tribal - and we will have our phyrexian tribal commander, it's just a matteer of time.)
Having the phyrexian watermark was exactly one of the main criterias they used to recognize what should be phyrexian in the game and what not. The most simple, intuitive and elegant one also. And the Sphinx was still a phyrexian on MTGO when they revealed us for the first time the phyrexian update. I really don't understand how they could mess up this one this badly.
Maybe they Errata it even ? Possible in my book.
It should be Phyrexian, without question.
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Yes, it is one of them, no it is not obvious at all and was already explainend why, and yes, it is indeed tragic in my book, because I can't just ask players to "house-rule" this stuff, I expect to be able to play in official tournaments of any format this sinergy. Just because you won't care about phyrexian tribal doesn't mean for other players is not important for their gameplay and flavor experience. I'm both disappointed as a Vorthos and as a player for whoever is responsible of this unforgivable mistake.
(And by the way, I don't even care this is a master product, I would complain about this change in the same identical way in any random product they would print the Sphinx without the phyrexian type)