Firbolg Flautist 4RR
Creature - Giant Bard (Rare) Captivating Performance — When Firbolg Flautist enters the battlefield, gain control of target creature you don't control until end of turn. Untap it. It gains haste and myriad until end of turn.
4/4
What's better than swinging a creature you stole off your opponent at them? Swinging that same creature at every opponent.
Ummm , weren·t the Firbolg the sworn enemies of the Tuatha de Danaan ? While i·m not saying there couldn·t have been Firbolg bards , blatantly cutting and pasting an actual culture seems like what they just resolved to not do .
Ummm , weren·t the Firbolg the sworn enemies of the Tuatha de Danaan ? While i·m not saying there couldn·t have been Firbolg bards , blatantly cutting and pasting an actual culture seems like what they just resolved to not do .
firbolg in forgotten realms are just good-aligned giants. The fir bolg in irish myth were regular people who the tuatha (thinly veiled nords, tbh) overthrew.
Ah , so it·s okay to pirate cultural intellectual property as long it·s grandfathered in and too ancient for any of them to fight back . Good to know . What a precident for them to set so early on .
Ah , so it·s okay to pirate cultural intellectual property as long it·s grandfathered in and too ancient for any of them to fight back . Good to know . What a precident for them to set so early on .
Pretty much, yeah. That's why it's okay for them to do a set like Theros.
My complaint is that we have no idea how tall he is. He could be six feet tall or twenty, and we can't tell from the art.
Ah , so it·s okay to pirate cultural intellectual property as long it·s grandfathered in and too ancient for any of them to fight back . Good to know . What a precident for them to set so early on .
Technically the "they" here isn't the magic team but gary gygax in monster manual 2 (1983) and the "cultural intellectual property" only shares a differently spelled name with them. But also anyway this is a weird thing to say about a game with elves and dwarves and zombi.
For DnD not being able to tell the size is the point, they have a trait that allows them to look as if they were normal sized, while being a much larger being. The art making it hard to tell is actually perfect in that case.
@desruprot You got me there. I can't help but accept that answer.
@Giianzha, I'm confused by what you mean. Appropriating mythological creatures is the basis of the fantasy setting. I don't think any Greeks are upset that you can find pegasus and cyclops creatures in MtG and DnD. The Scandinavians aren't complaining that they made dwarves and elves. And the Japanese aren't mad that they made Kappas in Kamigawa. I don't think this is a thing that many people find problematic.
The Scandinavians aren't complaining that they made dwarves and elves.
As one of the leading members of a Scandanavian Catholic sisterhood with ties to Vatican City , i can assure you that the Scandinavians are very mad about this .
The Scandinavians aren't complaining that they made dwarves and elves.
As one of the leading members of a Scandanavian Catholic sisterhood with ties to Vatican City , i can assure you that the Scandinavians are very mad about this .
Oh. Sorry about the dwarves and elves. Shall we start apologizing for the dragons, unicorns, vampires, werewolves spirits, demons, devils, griffins, goblins, cyclopses, sirens, chimeras, and gorgons, or should we wait until after apologizing for all the basalisks, centaurs, trolls, satyrs, kobolds, hags, fairies, harpies, djinni, efreeti, ogres, giants, and sphinxes?
Is your argument that there should be no fantasy genre? It's built on this concept. The public domain is a beautiful thing. Or would you rather everything were offbrand, like the Eldrazis are offbrand Lovecraft?
Are you truly offended by dwarves and elves? I ask this genuinely. I've never heard of such a thing.
The Scandinavians aren't complaining that they made dwarves and elves.
As one of the leading members of a Scandanavian Catholic sisterhood with ties to Vatican City , i can assure you that the Scandinavians are very mad about this .
Oh. Sorry about the dwarves and elves. Shall we start apologizing for the dragons, unicorns, vampires, werewolves spirits, demons, devils, griffins, goblins, cyclopses, sirens, chimeras, and gorgons, or should we wait until after apologizing for all the basalisks, centaurs, trolls, satyrs, kobolds, hags, fairies, harpies, djinni, efreeti, ogres, giants, and sphinxes?
Is your argument that there should be no fantasy genre? It's built on this concept. The public domain is a beautiful thing. Or would you rather everything were offbrand, like the Eldrazis are offbrand Lovecraft?
Are you truly offended by dwarves and elves? I ask this genuinely. I've never heard of such a thing.
The strangest thing about all this is this isn't even the most egregious thing Gygax took. The rakshasa are actual demons in Hinduism, and they got turned into tiger-men with hands on backwards.
I mean I think it's worth talking about cultural sensitivity but if you're doing it for a social justicey purpose I think we'd want to start with the haitian zombi or the great deal of shaman in the sets. Or I dunno the djinni or the efreet. or the rakshasa. Anything that came out of a book called "mysterious monsters or the orient" or whatever was acceptable in the 80s. "these are jungle creatures from the deep dark southern continent" was real popular in fantasy for a hot minute.
How is it that every one of these puppets has the exact same brand of viscious snark when cornered ?
The internet is a snarky place. But I'm not trying to be a snarky puppet. I'm trying to interrogate the strange thing you said because it seems strange.
And yeah, there's plenty of grossness. 80's sword and sorcery does this thing where green people (orcs and goblins) are coded as stupid, ugly, smelly, uncivilized, primitive, cowardly, and illiterate. And humans are coded as beautiful, strong, civilized, educated, literate, clean, brave, and intelligent. It's pretty textbook othering. Green people represent "primative peoples" and humans/elves/dwarves (usually represented as white) represent "the civilized world". Green people are bad guys, white people are good guys. This goes right into the fabric of the fantasy genre. I don't pretend there's no grossness. But I like living in a world where you don't have to apologize for using dragons.
Even though we·ve already established that ever since Neon Genesis Kamigawa the Wizards AutoAI considers humans to be goblins and The Thran to be the Actual Humans .
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Firbolg Flautist 4RR
Creature - Giant Bard (Rare)
Captivating Performance — When Firbolg Flautist enters the battlefield, gain control of target creature you don't control until end of turn. Untap it. It gains haste and myriad until end of turn.
4/4
What's better than swinging a creature you stole off your opponent at them? Swinging that same creature at every opponent.
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firbolg in forgotten realms are just good-aligned giants. The fir bolg in irish myth were regular people who the tuatha (thinly veiled nords, tbh) overthrew.
That ability is nice esp. with the Myriad attached. Makes the cost that much worthwhile esp. if it means taking someone's top creature.
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My complaint is that we have no idea how tall he is. He could be six feet tall or twenty, and we can't tell from the art.
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Technically the "they" here isn't the magic team but gary gygax in monster manual 2 (1983) and the "cultural intellectual property" only shares a differently spelled name with them. But also anyway this is a weird thing to say about a game with elves and dwarves and zombi.
If the Cultural Intellectual Property didn·t have any intrinsic value , why would they be working so hard at appropriating it ?
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@Giianzha, I'm confused by what you mean. Appropriating mythological creatures is the basis of the fantasy setting. I don't think any Greeks are upset that you can find pegasus and cyclops creatures in MtG and DnD. The Scandinavians aren't complaining that they made dwarves and elves. And the Japanese aren't mad that they made Kappas in Kamigawa. I don't think this is a thing that many people find problematic.
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As one of the leading members of a Scandanavian Catholic sisterhood with ties to Vatican City , i can assure you that the Scandinavians are very mad about this .
-Irini Sengir
Oh. Sorry about the dwarves and elves. Shall we start apologizing for the dragons, unicorns, vampires, werewolves spirits, demons, devils, griffins, goblins, cyclopses, sirens, chimeras, and gorgons, or should we wait until after apologizing for all the basalisks, centaurs, trolls, satyrs, kobolds, hags, fairies, harpies, djinni, efreeti, ogres, giants, and sphinxes?
Is your argument that there should be no fantasy genre? It's built on this concept. The public domain is a beautiful thing. Or would you rather everything were offbrand, like the Eldrazis are offbrand Lovecraft?
Are you truly offended by dwarves and elves? I ask this genuinely. I've never heard of such a thing.
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And yeah, there's plenty of grossness. 80's sword and sorcery does this thing where green people (orcs and goblins) are coded as stupid, ugly, smelly, uncivilized, primitive, cowardly, and illiterate. And humans are coded as beautiful, strong, civilized, educated, literate, clean, brave, and intelligent. It's pretty textbook othering. Green people represent "primative peoples" and humans/elves/dwarves (usually represented as white) represent "the civilized world". Green people are bad guys, white people are good guys. This goes right into the fabric of the fantasy genre. I don't pretend there's no grossness. But I like living in a world where you don't have to apologize for using dragons.
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