popular sets always leak. i expect the same for the warhammer and lotr sets
Odd take. I don't think it really bears out that those that get leaked are also the most popular. Was there a big leak for Zendikar? Or Rise of the Eldrazi? or Innistrad? Or Ravnica? New Phyrexia was a popular set, but I don't remember Ixalan being particularly popular.
I think it has more to do with the person with the will to leak cards also being in the position to do so.
yes? (You know I was infact talking about mirrodin besieged block and not 2023/2024 right?)
no matter the system before or after of hiding/prevent cards from being leaked new phyrexia was the worst one. (Though I hear judgement was pretty close to a similar leveled leak)
The guy said "I haven't seen a leak this bad since 2017", and for some reason you decide to respond with "ACKCHYUALLY there was an even worse leak back in 2011!!"? Literally no one was talking about older leaks?
Judgment was just as bad, but unlike NPH, it was leaked by Wizards themselves.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
If I had to guess, I would say that the Backgrounds are kinda like partner, where you can pair a Background in the command zone with a legendary creature that has "Choose a Background".
New phyrexia pretty much the entire set got leaked
You... you do realize that New Phyrexia came out 6 years before Ixalan, right?
yes? (You know I was infact talking about mirrodin besieged block and not 2023/2024 right?)
no matter the system before or after of hiding/prevent cards from being leaked new phyrexia was the worst one. (Though I hear judgement was pretty close to a similar leveled leak)
Dominaria arguably had the nastiest, worst leak because it was Wizards who dropped the ball with its release notes. Say what you want about third parties leaking; first parties leaking has to feel even worse.
Baldr was the name of a Norse god , wasn·t it ? Seems like a solid place to do in a Kaldheim portal/crossover , especially with the Praetors roaming around .
Really good job with Nine-Fingers Keene. She requires 9 gates but can only play 4
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If I had to guess, I would say that the Backgrounds are kinda like partner, where you can pair a Background in the command zone with a legendary creature that has "Choose a Background".
New phyrexia pretty much the entire set got leaked
You... you do realize that New Phyrexia came out 6 years before Ixalan, right?
yes? (You know I was infact talking about mirrodin besieged block and not 2023/2024 right?)
no matter the system before or after of hiding/prevent cards from being leaked new phyrexia was the worst one. (Though I hear judgement was pretty close to a similar leveled leak)
Dominaria arguably had the nastiest, worst leak because it was Wizards who dropped the ball with its release notes. Say what you want about third parties leaking; first parties leaking has to feel even worse.
oh that’s right about a 4th of the set got leaked
i Remmeber when damping sphere got revealed and every body who saw the leak we were all
Really good job with Nine-Fingers Keene. She requires 9 gates but can only play 4
well, if you peruse the leak more that issue is solved within it.
It's not, you'll only get to 7. Even if they print a couple of "colorless" gates, having only 9 in a deck of 100 cards is pitiful and won't work.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Simply solution a colorless Basic Gate, like how there are snow lands that are both snow and basic.
Making a Basic Land - Gate is the farthest thing from a simple solution. You'd be creating a sixth basic land type. You'd functionally change Domain. You'd affect ramp spells and spells that say "basic land type." Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Prismatic Omen would now make all your lands Gates and allow Maze's End to win on the spot without a single Gate in your deck. Perilous Forays would now tutor every Gate.
secondly New phyrexia pretty much the entire set got leaked
Yeah, and that was long before Ixalan.
Don;t forget too that I think Judgment was leaked due to ppl able to see the coding in MTGO before it was released. Either Judgment or Scourge, one of those two.
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That’s what I want to know as well! I’m guessing that if your commander has the choose a background that it begins the game in the command zone, but can they also be in the 99 of regular decks. I’m assuming so cuz nothing about the templating would prevent it. I’m already sold on buying a box of this. I loved AFR and I think this looks awesome so far. I’m hoping that there will be some of the initiative mechanic in mono white because I have a nadaar blink deck that goes through dungeons pretty fast. I’m surprised no one is talking much about Gale. I think his ability to recure spells from the graveyard is pretty strong and I think with all the new adventures there’s some shinanagins he can pull off with them.
Edit: I don’t think Gale plays with adventures the same way as Lier does it looks like that’s an exclusive for him. Gale has a lot of potential though.
Nope, Gale exiles cards that he reuses from the graveyard IF they would go back to the graveyard, but the instant/sorcery side of adventure cards don't go back to the graveyard, they get directly exiles instead.
That why Gale pairs so well with Archeologist Background, which not only gets him access to red, but when he casts say Stomp from bone crusher, then Casts the creature, he deals half it's mana value in damage, then some kills it, so next turn he can cast a sorcery, then Casts stomp from the graveyard when exiles itself afterward instead of going to the graveyard, which means you can cast the creature side again, triggering Archeologist again. With somekind of red permanent granting you the ability to sacrifice creatures of a benefit, you can keep doing this.
This allows you to build a cool Adventures/Prismari/Izzet/Exile matters deck. Heck add in double vision for more craziness.
Simply solution a colorless Basic Gate, like how there are snow lands that are both snow and basic.
Making a Basic Land - Gate is the farthest thing from a simple solution. You'd be creating a sixth basic land type. You'd functionally change Domain. You'd affect ramp spells and spells that say "basic land type." Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Prismatic Omen would now make all your lands Gates and allow Maze's End to win on the spot without a single Gate in your deck. Perilous Forays would now tutor every Gate.
There is already a sixth basic land, Wastes. This would be the Seventh.
Simply solution a colorless Basic Gate, like how there are snow lands that are both snow and basic.
Making a Basic Land - Gate is the farthest thing from a simple solution. You'd be creating a sixth basic land type. You'd functionally change Domain. You'd affect ramp spells and spells that say "basic land type." Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Prismatic Omen would now make all your lands Gates and allow Maze's End to win on the spot without a single Gate in your deck. Perilous Forays would now tutor every Gate.
There is already a sixth basic land, Wastes. This would be the Seventh.
Technically, Wastes are basic lands but Waste is not a basic land type.
secondly New phyrexia pretty much the entire set got leaked
Yeah, and that was long before Ixalan.
Don;t forget too that I think Judgment was leaked due to ppl able to see the coding in MTGO before it was released. Either Judgment or Scourge, one of those two.
Also:
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Did they explain how backgrounds and choosing one works?
'buster
That’s what I want to know as well! I’m guessing that if your commander has the choose a background that it begins the game in the command zone, but can they also be in the 99 of regular decks. I’m assuming so cuz nothing about the templating would prevent it. I’m already sold on buying a box of this. I loved AFR and I think this looks awesome so far. I’m hoping that there will be some of the initiative mechanic in mono white because I have a nadaar blink deck that goes through dungeons pretty fast. I’m surprised no one is talking much about Gale. I think his ability to recure spells from the graveyard is pretty strong and I think with all the new adventures there’s some shinanagins he can pull off with them.
Edit: I don’t think Gale plays with adventures the same way as Lier does it looks like that’s an exclusive for him. Gale has a lot of potential though.
Nope, Gale exiles cards that he reuses from the graveyard IF they would go back to the graveyard, but the instant/sorcery side of adventure cards don't go back to the graveyard, they get directly exiles instead.
That why Gale pairs so well with Archeologist Background, which not only gets him access to red, but when he casts say Stomp from bone crusher, then Casts the creature, he deals half it's mana value in damage, then some kills it, so next turn he can cast a sorcery, then Casts stomp from the graveyard when exiles itself afterward instead of going to the graveyard, which means you can cast the creature side again, triggering Archeologist again. With somekind of red permanent granting you the ability to sacrifice creatures of a benefit, you can keep doing this.
This allows you to build a cool Adventures/Prismari/Izzet/Exile matters deck. Heck add in double vision for more craziness.
I’ve done a little bit of research and from what I’ve gathered online and it only works with Lier because he isn’t targeting them or counting them as instant or sorceries. It’s still very confusing and I was hoping it worked the way I initially thought but here’s the sources I found.
It would have been awesome but I think because Gale has to target the instant or sorcery it doesn’t work because the adventure is only an instant or sorcery when you are casting it as an adventure and when it’s on the stack and is a creature the rest of the time. I’m hoping that makes sense it’s very confusing and I’m still trying to understand it lol.
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They might as well give us functional reprints of the 2 colored gates as uncommons or something
This could work and be nice, but i don't think wotc will do it
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Simply solution a colorless Basic Gate, like how there are snow lands that are both snow and basic.
Making a Basic Land - Gate is the farthest thing from a simple solution. You'd be creating a sixth basic land type. You'd functionally change Domain. You'd affect ramp spells and spells that say "basic land type." Dryad of the Ilysian Grove and Prismatic Omen would now make all your lands Gates and allow Maze's End to win on the spot without a single Gate in your deck. Perilous Forays would now tutor every Gate.
There is already a sixth basic land, Wastes. This would be the Seventh.
Technically, Wastes are basic lands but Waste is not a basic land type.
Roll for initiative, monkey boy!Yeah, and that was long before Ixalan.
Don;t forget too that I think Judgment was leaked due to ppl able to see the coding in MTGO before it was released. Either Judgment or Scourge, one of those two.
Also:
TLDR
Did they explain how backgrounds and choosing one works?
'buster
That’s what I want to know as well! I’m guessing that if your commander has the choose a background that it begins the game in the command zone, but can they also be in the 99 of regular decks. I’m assuming so cuz nothing about the templating would prevent it. I’m already sold on buying a box of this. I loved AFR and I think this looks awesome so far. I’m hoping that there will be some of the initiative mechanic in mono white because I have a nadaar blink deck that goes through dungeons pretty fast. I’m surprised no one is talking much about Gale. I think his ability to recure spells from the graveyard is pretty strong and I think with all the new adventures there’s some shinanagins he can pull off with them.
Edit: I don’t think Gale plays with adventures the same way as Lier does it looks like that’s an exclusive for him. Gale has a lot of potential though.
Nope, Gale exiles cards that he reuses from the graveyard IF they would go back to the graveyard, but the instant/sorcery side of adventure cards don't go back to the graveyard, they get directly exiles instead.
That why Gale pairs so well with Archeologist Background, which not only gets him access to red, but when he casts say Stomp from bone crusher, then Casts the creature, he deals half it's mana value in damage, then some kills it, so next turn he can cast a sorcery, then Casts stomp from the graveyard when exiles itself afterward instead of going to the graveyard, which means you can cast the creature side again, triggering Archeologist again. With somekind of red permanent granting you the ability to sacrifice creatures of a benefit, you can keep doing this.
This allows you to build a cool Adventures/Prismari/Izzet/Exile matters deck. Heck add in double vision for more craziness.
I’ve done a little bit of research and from what I’ve gathered online and it only works with Lier because he isn’t targeting them or counting them as instant or sorceries. It’s still very confusing and I was hoping it worked the way I initially thought but here’s the sources I found.
It would have been awesome but I think because Gale has to target the instant or sorcery it doesn’t work because the adventure is only an instant or sorcery when you are casting it as an adventure and when it’s on the stack and is a creature the rest of the time. I’m hoping that makes sense it’s very confusing and I’m still trying to understand it lol.
I guess we will find out when he hits MTGO and Arena.
Really good job with Nine-Fingers Keene. She requires 9 gates but can only play 4
well, if you peruse the leak more that issue is solved within it.
It's not, you'll only get to 7. Even if they print a couple of "colorless" gates, having only 9 in a deck of 100 cards is pitiful and won't work.
Bold assumption when this is a tiny fraction of the set leaked and it already shows new gates being printed. There couldnt possibly be even more gates in the set. No way. Please share with the rest of us the entire set reveal you clearly have access to.
I think it has more to do with the person with the will to leak cards also being in the position to do so.
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The guy said "I haven't seen a leak this bad since 2017", and for some reason you decide to respond with "ACKCHYUALLY there was an even worse leak back in 2011!!"? Literally no one was talking about older leaks?
Judgment was just as bad, but unlike NPH, it was leaked by Wizards themselves.
Dominaria arguably had the nastiest, worst leak because it was Wizards who dropped the ball with its release notes. Say what you want about third parties leaking; first parties leaking has to feel even worse.
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well, if you peruse the leak more that issue is solved within it.
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With the current spoilers it's 7, but there is likely some colorless gates coming that could bring her to 9 or 10.
oh that’s right about a 4th of the set got leaked
i Remmeber when damping sphere got revealed and every body who saw the leak we were all
“What the hell?! That’s a uncommon?!”
It's not, you'll only get to 7. Even if they print a couple of "colorless" gates, having only 9 in a deck of 100 cards is pitiful and won't work.
They might as well give us functional reprints of the 2 colored gates as uncommons or something
Simply solution a colorless Basic Gate, like how there are snow lands that are both snow and basic.
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Nope, Gale exiles cards that he reuses from the graveyard IF they would go back to the graveyard, but the instant/sorcery side of adventure cards don't go back to the graveyard, they get directly exiles instead.
That why Gale pairs so well with Archeologist Background, which not only gets him access to red, but when he casts say Stomp from bone crusher, then Casts the creature, he deals half it's mana value in damage, then some kills it, so next turn he can cast a sorcery, then Casts stomp from the graveyard when exiles itself afterward instead of going to the graveyard, which means you can cast the creature side again, triggering Archeologist again. With somekind of red permanent granting you the ability to sacrifice creatures of a benefit, you can keep doing this.
This allows you to build a cool Adventures/Prismari/Izzet/Exile matters deck. Heck add in double vision for more craziness.
There is already a sixth basic land, Wastes. This would be the Seventh.
Technically, Wastes are basic lands but Waste is not a basic land type.
I’ve done a little bit of research and from what I’ve gathered online and it only works with Lier because he isn’t targeting them or counting them as instant or sorceries. It’s still very confusing and I was hoping it worked the way I initially thought but here’s the sources I found.
https://www.reddit.com/r/mtgrules/comments/q3k01w/lier_disciple_of_the_drowned_and_cards_with/
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/the-cube-forum/cube-card-and-archetype/813725-cube-eld-psa-adventure-interactions
It would have been awesome but I think because Gale has to target the instant or sorcery it doesn’t work because the adventure is only an instant or sorcery when you are casting it as an adventure and when it’s on the stack and is a creature the rest of the time. I’m hoping that makes sense it’s very confusing and I’m still trying to understand it lol.
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This could work and be nice, but i don't think wotc will do it
Couldn't they do something simular with Gates?
I guess we will find out when he hits MTGO and Arena.
Bold assumption when this is a tiny fraction of the set leaked and it already shows new gates being printed. There couldnt possibly be even more gates in the set. No way. Please share with the rest of us the entire set reveal you clearly have access to.
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