Of course they continue to give Green things it doesn't need. Is it "Green"? I mean sure, Green can make Clues and Food, and dabbled with Treasures, and it is the color of mana production, so sure this fits. But does Green need to get yet another great Treasure engine (glares at Old Gnawbones)??? I was highly suspicious when the Gruul Treasure cards were spoiled (the one that only costs RG with Treasure mana and the Treasure Dork that hurts you) along with Ziatora creating Treasures, but now they are going to be solidly in Green from here. This is so stupid. Not only does the mana stick around, but Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on, and these are artifact tokens, so this can be splashed in every deck that wants high artifact counts/token creation. This and Doubling Season is just stupid. This and Chatterfang, Squirrel General is just stupid. This is just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development.
Bah, it’s a big artifact that like will often do nothing the turn it comes down and only start generating mana two turns later.
This thing is only really exciting if you untap with this card and Korvold… or Mayhem Devil… or Marrionette Master… or disciple of the vault… or reckless fireweaver… or xorn… or academy manufacturer… or chatterfang… or the new card that turns treasures into impulse draw… or token doublers
whatever, its stupid with all the doubling season effects out there but otherwise is just kind of win more for green, you know, the ramp color that doesn't interact with artifacts except to blow them up.
Bah, it’s a big artifact that like will often do nothing the turn it comes down and only start generating mana two turns later.
This thing is only really exciting if you untap with this card and Korvold… or Mayhem Devil… or Marrionette Master… or disciple of the vault… or reckless fireweaver… or xorn… or academy manufacturer… or chatterfang… or the new card that turns treasures into impulse draw… or token doublers
I get the thought that green doesn't need treasures to ramp, but from a mechanical standpoint nothing stop green from having them and as the color of mana making and ramp and Wotc has been saying since Ixalan that green could get treasure for these reasons.
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"Yeah?"
"We lied. But on the plus side we made this totally unnecessary Green card that ramps you when you don't need it!"
It's a decent Timmy card all right. I doubt any formats are going to be shaken up by this though, it's just too slow without adding additional pieces that don't also push towards victory. Like, sure, I can have this and Seedborn Muse, but then I need a third card to accomplish anything after my eleven mana 2 turn investment.
As usual with 6 mana mythics, this card becomes a lot more explosive the more casual your commander meta is.
Of course they continue to give Green things it doesn't need. Is it "Green"? I mean sure, Green can make Clues and Food, and dabbled with Treasures, and it is the color of mana production, so sure this fits. But does Green need to get yet another great Treasure engine (glares at Old Gnawbones)??? I was highly suspicious when the Gruul Treasure cards were spoiled (the one that only costs RG with Treasure mana and the Treasure Dork that hurts you) along with Ziatora creating Treasures, but now they are going to be solidly in Green from here. This is so stupid. Not only does the mana stick around, but Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on, and these are artifact tokens, so this can be splashed in every deck that wants high artifact counts/token creation. This and Doubling Season is just stupid. This and Chatterfang, Squirrel General is just stupid. This is just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development.
I really would like to know, what does green 'need'? What does any colour 'need'?
Of course they continue to give Green things it doesn't need. Is it "Green"? I mean sure, Green can make Clues and Food, and dabbled with Treasures, and it is the color of mana production, so sure this fits. But does Green need to get yet another great Treasure engine (glares at Old Gnawbones)??? I was highly suspicious when the Gruul Treasure cards were spoiled (the one that only costs RG with Treasure mana and the Treasure Dork that hurts you) along with Ziatora creating Treasures, but now they are going to be solidly in Green from here. This is so stupid. Not only does the mana stick around, but Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on, and these are artifact tokens, so this can be splashed in every deck that wants high artifact counts/token creation. This and Doubling Season is just stupid. This and Chatterfang, Squirrel General is just stupid. This is just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development.
"Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on"
Uh yeah, that's how this works? Things get better as more cards are printed to support them.
"This token-making card is really good with things that care about tokens being made!" Well damn dude, you're right! I guess that's just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development! Maybe they should just stop printing cards that interact with preexisting cards!
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
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Of course they continue to give Green things it doesn't need. Is it "Green"? I mean sure, Green can make Clues and Food, and dabbled with Treasures, and it is the color of mana production, so sure this fits. But does Green need to get yet another great Treasure engine (glares at Old Gnawbones)??? I was highly suspicious when the Gruul Treasure cards were spoiled (the one that only costs RG with Treasure mana and the Treasure Dork that hurts you) along with Ziatora creating Treasures, but now they are going to be solidly in Green from here. This is so stupid. Not only does the mana stick around, but Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on, and these are artifact tokens, so this can be splashed in every deck that wants high artifact counts/token creation. This and Doubling Season is just stupid. This and Chatterfang, Squirrel General is just stupid. This is just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development.
Six mana is load for that effect, but good lord.
This thing is only really exciting if you untap with this card and Korvold… or Mayhem Devil… or Marrionette Master… or disciple of the vault… or reckless fireweaver… or xorn… or academy manufacturer… or chatterfang… or the new card that turns treasures into impulse draw… or token doublers
But other than that, it’s not the best card /s
Damn, what a card.
why did green need this?
whatever, its stupid with all the doubling season effects out there but otherwise is just kind of win more for green, you know, the ramp color that doesn't interact with artifacts except to blow them up.
or awakening or seedborn muse
So the effect is certainly green, as it makes a ton of mana.
Treasures mainly being a "red" mechanic hurts the entire treasure theme.
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This will also be nuts with the new Caberetti legend that lets you replace any token production with 2/2 haste cats.
it’s nothing like Upwelling, which benefits your opponents as well.
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On the other hand....this is absolutely amazing.
"Yeah?"
"We lied. But on the plus side we made this totally unnecessary Green card that ramps you when you don't need it!"
As usual with 6 mana mythics, this card becomes a lot more explosive the more casual your commander meta is.
I really would like to know, what does green 'need'? What does any colour 'need'?
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"Treasure strats are only going to get better as Magic goes on"
Uh yeah, that's how this works? Things get better as more cards are printed to support them.
"This token-making card is really good with things that care about tokens being made!" Well damn dude, you're right! I guess that's just a truly awful, yet sadly inevitable, development! Maybe they should just stop printing cards that interact with preexisting cards!
Here's the official English wording and showcase frame.
I will update the thread title to match
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