Waiting for a dog or demon in a Zoot Suit. You know its coming.
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I don't play the game anymore, and at this point I've stopped caring about what feels and doesn't feel like Magic. Looking forward to this for some cool worldbuilding and art, and so far it looks interesting.
I wonder how they're going to flavor the Bant faction. It seems like they're going for a Wall Street kind of vibe.
The ikoria triomes don’t have the original names (femur, sultai, etc) so why does it matter if these do?
I think, it matters less whether they are Grixis Triome etc. and more whether they are triomes to begin with. If they made a new plane with arc colors that makes sense with triomes that probably would be fine, too. It's just weird that one half of the cycle adheres to such a strict naming convention and the other half doesn't.
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Planar Chaos was not a mistake neither was it random. You might want to look at it again.
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The ikoria triomes don’t have the original names (femur, sultai, etc) so why does it matter if these do?
I think, it matters less whether they are Grixis Triome etc. and more whether they are triomes to begin with. If they made a new plane with arc colors that makes sense with triomes that probably would be fine, too. It's just weird that one half of the cycle adheres to such a strict naming convention and the other half doesn't.
Same thing happened with the reveal lands, but backwards, plus the Refuges from Zendikar got replaced with generic named lands.
I love it. These last few sets have been a great reminder of how limited magic has been artistically in the last twenty years or so. That alt-art Brokers Ascendancy is stunning.
Heck, the fact that a couple of you associate it with the 90s bruce timm batman more than 'art deco' as a style (really, not even bioshock?) is a reminder of how limited magic has been artistically.
Absolutely love everything about this so far. Really like the showcase frames, and loving getting unique full-arts in every set. It lets everyone be unique and choose their favorite lands. When the only full-arts were Zendikar you only had a couple options and they were expensive.
Honestly, and don't hate, but the high fantasy general setting of MtG is hands down my least favorite aspect of the game. I love that they're branching out into these other aesthetics.
I'm fine with them not doing "Triomes." The word has a specific connotation as a type of landscape (biomes being stuff like deserts, grassland, tundra, marshland, etc.), which wouldn't have made any sense in a city-themed set. Not being able to call them triomes doesn't seem like a legitimate reason to not include them here.
Little surprised they kept Friends Forever and didn't just change it to partner.
That would be a functional change, since FF cards can only partner with each other, and not the wider collection of Partner cards. And Partner With wouldn't work either, since that includes a tutoring mechanic that these don't have.
Playing since 1994: Currently MAGS (HomeBrew),Standard & Pauper (Pioneer and Modern are degenerate trash formats)
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
They said the family leaders would have additional creature types besides demon and the UBR family was described as vampiric in a similar way the BRG family was draconic and them seemly having dragon demon as a leader.
Couldn't it be an Azra? I thought they were on this plane.
People think they are but they haven't said if the demonic looking people we seen are Azra or fully demons (or maybe devils).
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"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Strangely, I think the Kylem Azra claim they're descended from dragons, not demons, despite their looks. If New Capenna wants any consistency with Kylem, I think the Jund-coloured leader has a better claim to being an Azra than the Grixis-coloured leader does.
I don't play the game anymore, and at this point I've stopped caring about what feels and doesn't feel like Magic. Looking forward to this for some cool worldbuilding and art, and so far it looks interesting.
I wonder how they're going to flavor the Bant faction. It seems like they're going for a Wall Street kind of vibe.
I think they actually did a fairly good job with the Bant faction's flavour already - and they may have had to reveal that faction's flavour first to dispel all our (IMO, justified) doubts about that faction in advance.
You can glean a lot from the flavour text of Brokers Ascendancy:
"This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. And more importantly, a profitable one. Now sign here."
The Bant-aligned Brokers may be out for the sustained prosperity of both their own side and yours, but they will be completely insufferable to deal with. Their penchant for getting papers signed will rival that of the old-school Azorius. And the other 4 families will want Brokers killed because deals, as always, went sour. (Even if it was neither side's fault.)
Strangely, I think the Kylem Azra claim they're descended from dragons, not demons, despite their looks. If New Capenna wants any consistency with Kylem, I think the Jund-coloured leader has a better claim to being an Azra than the Grixis-coloured leader does.
Azra are a new race in Magic. Their distant demonic ancestry is reflected in their facial horns, but their facial shape can shift into a purely demonic snarl when they feel threatened.
I think your confusing them with the naga on Tarkir.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Little surprised they kept Friends Forever and didn't just change it to partner.
That would be a functional change, since FF cards can only partner with each other, and not the wider collection of Partner cards. And Partner With wouldn't work either, since that includes a tutoring mechanic that these don't have.
They could say Partner With if they listed all those cards, but that's painfully inelegant and space-consuming.
So the Stranger things cards are being reprinted as normal Magic cards....... but in a Secret Lair, not a set? Ok then
Nah, they're on the list and if I recall correctly they show up more frequently than other list cards.
The List appears in 1 out of every 4 set boosters, and half of those slots for New Capenna will be these cards. Theoretically, you need two set booster boxes to get all of them.
So the Stranger things cards are being reprinted as normal Magic cards....... but in a Secret Lair, not a set? Ok then
This is completely factually inaccurate. Like, bafflingly so.
Wizards: "The Stranger Things cards are being reprinted as normal cards on the List in 1 out of every 8 set boosters!"
You: "So they're appearing in a Secret Lair and not a set?"
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Little surprised they kept Friends Forever and didn't just change it to partner.
That would be a functional change, since FF cards can only partner with each other, and not the wider collection of Partner cards. And Partner With wouldn't work either, since that includes a tutoring mechanic that these don't have.
They could say Partner With if they listed all those cards, but that's painfully inelegant and space-consuming.
That still wouldn't work, because Partner With has an additional element that Friends Forever/Partner lacks: A tutoring element. A card with "Partner With" gets to look for their other half from a deck as soon as it enters the battlefield.
Edit: Obviously that doesn't matter if they're your commander, but since they've established Partner With, which works outside of Commander, and in the 99 of a Commander Deck, they can't just use the same wording.
Second Edit: It just hit me why Ziatora looks so familiar: she's got a lot of similarities with Larfleeze, the Orange Lantern. Particularly the image where he's holding the power battery for the orange ring.
So the Stranger things cards are being reprinted as normal Magic cards....... but in a Secret Lair, not a set? Ok then
This is completely factually inaccurate. Like, bafflingly so.
Wizards: "The Stranger Things cards are being reprinted as normal cards on the List in 1 out of every 8 set boosters!"
You: "So they're appearing in a Secret Lair and not a set?"
No seriously, where did you even get this idea?
So sorry to offend you that I forgot about the blog post and article update from 6 months ago. Lots of things going on in the world and lots of things going on in the Magic world that it slipped my mind. I saw Innistrad theme with SLDX on the bottom of cards and the Lack of the "The list" planeswalker symbol in the bottom left corner and for a second, thought it would be a new secret lair. Since that seems something they might do, I forgot.
My sincerest apologies for the blatantly baffling inaccurate statement
So sorry to offend you that I forgot about the blog post and article update from 6 months ago. Lots of things going on in the world and lots of things going on in the Magic world that it slipped my mind. I saw Innistrad theme with SLDX on the bottom of cards and the Lack of the "The list" planeswalker symbol in the bottom left corner and for a second, thought it would be a new secret lair. Since that seems something they might do, I forgot.
My sincerest apologies for the blatantly baffling inaccurate statement
Oh yeah? And what about the article and video updates from two (2) days ago?
But it's okay, at least you apologized.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Nah, they're on the list and if I recall correctly they show up more frequently than other list cards.
Waiting for a dog or demon in a Zoot Suit. You know its coming.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I wonder how they're going to flavor the Bant faction. It seems like they're going for a Wall Street kind of vibe.
I think, it matters less whether they are Grixis Triome etc. and more whether they are triomes to begin with. If they made a new plane with arc colors that makes sense with triomes that probably would be fine, too. It's just weird that one half of the cycle adheres to such a strict naming convention and the other half doesn't.
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Same thing happened with the reveal lands, but backwards, plus the Refuges from Zendikar got replaced with generic named lands.
Heck, the fact that a couple of you associate it with the 90s bruce timm batman more than 'art deco' as a style (really, not even bioshock?) is a reminder of how limited magic has been artistically.
Honestly, and don't hate, but the high fantasy general setting of MtG is hands down my least favorite aspect of the game. I love that they're branching out into these other aesthetics.
I'm fine with them not doing "Triomes." The word has a specific connotation as a type of landscape (biomes being stuff like deserts, grassland, tundra, marshland, etc.), which wouldn't have made any sense in a city-themed set. Not being able to call them triomes doesn't seem like a legitimate reason to not include them here.
Isn't that an Azra?
That would be a functional change, since FF cards can only partner with each other, and not the wider collection of Partner cards. And Partner With wouldn't work either, since that includes a tutoring mechanic that these don't have.
Good, they shouldn't be special. They should be the norm.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
They said the family leaders would have additional creature types besides demon and the UBR family was described as vampiric in a similar way the BRG family was draconic and them seemly having dragon demon as a leader.
People think they are but they haven't said if the demonic looking people we seen are Azra or fully demons (or maybe devils).
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Strangely, I think the Kylem Azra claim they're descended from dragons, not demons, despite their looks. If New Capenna wants any consistency with Kylem, I think the Jund-coloured leader has a better claim to being an Azra than the Grixis-coloured leader does.
I think they actually did a fairly good job with the Bant faction's flavour already - and they may have had to reveal that faction's flavour first to dispel all our (IMO, justified) doubts about that faction in advance.
You can glean a lot from the flavour text of Brokers Ascendancy:
"This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. And more importantly, a profitable one. Now sign here."
The Bant-aligned Brokers may be out for the sustained prosperity of both their own side and yours, but they will be completely insufferable to deal with. Their penchant for getting papers signed will rival that of the old-school Azorius. And the other 4 families will want Brokers killed because deals, as always, went sour. (Even if it was neither side's fault.)
Yeah draconic...
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/world-battlebond-2018-06-06
I think your confusing them with the naga on Tarkir.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
The List appears in 1 out of every 4 set boosters, and half of those slots for New Capenna will be these cards. Theoretically, you need two set booster boxes to get all of them.
This is completely factually inaccurate. Like, bafflingly so.
Wizards: "The Stranger Things cards are being reprinted as normal cards on the List in 1 out of every 8 set boosters!"
You: "So they're appearing in a Secret Lair and not a set?"
No seriously, where did you even get this idea?
That still wouldn't work, because Partner With has an additional element that Friends Forever/Partner lacks: A tutoring element. A card with "Partner With" gets to look for their other half from a deck as soon as it enters the battlefield.
Edit: Obviously that doesn't matter if they're your commander, but since they've established Partner With, which works outside of Commander, and in the 99 of a Commander Deck, they can't just use the same wording.
Second Edit: It just hit me why Ziatora looks so familiar: she's got a lot of similarities with Larfleeze, the Orange Lantern. Particularly the image where he's holding the power battery for the orange ring.
So sorry to offend you that I forgot about the blog post and article update from 6 months ago. Lots of things going on in the world and lots of things going on in the Magic world that it slipped my mind. I saw Innistrad theme with SLDX on the bottom of cards and the Lack of the "The list" planeswalker symbol in the bottom left corner and for a second, thought it would be a new secret lair. Since that seems something they might do, I forgot.
My sincerest apologies for the blatantly baffling inaccurate statement
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Oh yeah? And what about the article and video updates from two (2) days ago?
But it's okay, at least you apologized.
from your reaction to the DJ in kamigawa
You clearly didn't see the actual cars and actual trains on both plains
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I saw it all....
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im Sorry but your minority of caring about stuff like motorcycles/cars/trains/fedoras/DJ in magic people are adapting already sorry.