Wow those Neon Inks are going to be record breaking expensive (especially the Red).
To quote : "These will be a prized find for players and collectors, and three of these colors are found only in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty Collector Boosters: less than 1% of boosters contain a neon ink card. There are about half as many green ink cards as blue ink cards, and about a quarter that many red ink cards as green ink cards."
So for easy math sake.
There are 1000 blue ink
500 green ink
125 red ink
Whoa mama let the chase begin.
Not so sure about that. It's only one card and not a ridiculously powerful one. What are the odds of getting a specific foil borderless mythic in a collector booster?
With that said the playability of the cards looks pretty good. Kaito seems pretty fair and not overwhelming like past 3 cmc walkers. Atsushi and Hidetsugu look very playable in Standard at least and in the case of the dragon you can even play another copy to get extra draws.
Tried Kaito in Modern in that Ephemerate Reanimator deck (in Cockatrice against myself). He was fairly good there - this is one of those rare decks where looting really matters, and he often can get in at least a Ninja and a loot/card before going down, partially thanks to his initial phasing out letting him dodge getting attacked for a turn. He should be great against UW Control, but I need to test against that deck (I mainly tested against midrange, which wasn't that kind to him).
Honestly, card draw/looting and token-making on the same 3-cmc walker looks nigh-unprecedented.
Wow those Neon Inks are going to be record breaking expensive (especially the Red).
To quote : "These will be a prized find for players and collectors, and three of these colors are found only in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty Collector Boosters: less than 1% of boosters contain a neon ink card. There are about half as many green ink cards as blue ink cards, and about a quarter that many red ink cards as green ink cards."
So for easy math sake.
There are 1000 blue ink
500 green ink
125 red ink
Whoa mama let the chase begin.
But it looks absolutely terrible, even if it's rare I don't know why people would pay premium for it
But it looks absolutely terrible, even if it's rare I don't know why people would pay premium for it
The prices of these will set a precedent.
Either rarity alone makes them worth something, or people simply dont care, and they dont carry much worth.
Anyone that just wants a copy to play has PLENTY of variations to choose from, which undermines the value substantially, but the guy that for whatever reason wants to collect all variations might pay a premium (but there cant be many of that group).
Wow those Neon Inks are going to be record breaking expensive (especially the Red).
To quote : "These will be a prized find for players and collectors, and three of these colors are found only in Kamigawa: Neon Dynasty Collector Boosters: less than 1% of boosters contain a neon ink card. There are about half as many green ink cards as blue ink cards, and about a quarter that many red ink cards as green ink cards."
So for easy math sake.
There are 1000 blue ink
500 green ink
125 red ink
Whoa mama let the chase begin.
But it looks absolutely terrible, even if it's rare I don't know why people would pay premium for it
I would not pay for sure. That artwork/coloration is borderline cheesy and far to juvenile to my tastes. With that said there are going to be a lot of players the exact opposite that this will be very attractive to them.
I'm going to have to be very discriminating of the artwork in this set to find cards that I can tolerate. Luckily for me its just a one off set. I don't want to dampen the enthusiasm that some may be getting from this.
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A black three generic one black mana 4/4 with only upside (albeit the legendary drawback). I thought really only green got stuff like that.
Like 5-10 years ago, sure. For rares nowadays we are way past that. And by current powercreep standards it isn't even that good, though I am intrigued by trying to combo with with an eldrazi on top of your deck to deal a ton of damage to someone.
I genuinely adore Kamigawa's aesthetics. Those basic lands are outright gorgeous and thematic, stunning. I will say, this is the first example of a set of Basics that I admire the Mountain and Swamp the most. Those are the most gorgeous Mountains ever. I would say the Forest set is the only one I do not appreciate much. The Islands are very beautiful, but I'd prefer to have seen the Naruto whirlpools or something, or crashing waves, since one Island looks more like a Forest. The Oragami lake island is remarkable though.
HIDETSUGU! I am so relieved to see that this set will feature continuity with the old (and highly revered) lore, and connect both the old and new Kamigawa once again. Perfect - they'd done their homework on behalf of Vorthos!
I LOVE that digital/tech Manga art for Kaito. Honestly, it's time for a 5c EDH deck so I can play him alongside some other legends and PWs I want
I am getting very clear and sincere vibes from this revisit. I am confident Kamigawa is going to be a hit for everyone
A black three generic one black mana 4/4 with only upside (albeit the legendary drawback). I thought really only green got stuff like that.
well... my go to card used to be Derelor from fallen empires 4/4 for 3b, but with the drawback that every subsequent black spell gets more expensive by b
I don't like the basic lands. To me they don't look lands or even Magic cards. If it wasn't for the mana symbol I on most of them I wouldn't have a clue what they are look wise. Bit of an eye sore if you ask me. Looks like crappy wall art hanged at a cheap run down Chinese restaurant that hasn't updated its look since the 70's. Ugly. Note remind me to not buy any the collectors packs as I know each pack contains an undesirable eye sore instead of usable basic. It is like those ugly lands like evolving wilds from Forgotten Realms. They were unusably ugly too.
I don't like the basic lands. To me they don't look lands or even Magic cards. If it wasn't for the mana symbol I on most of them I wouldn't have a clue what they are look wise. Bit of an eye sore if you ask me. Looks like crappy wall art hanged at a cheap run down Chinese restaurant that hasn't updated its look since the 70's. Ugly. Note remind me to not buy any the collectors packs as I know each pack contains an undesirable eye sore instead of usable basic. It is like those ugly lands like evolving wilds from Forgotten Realms. They were unusably ugly too.
You're really making me miss Chinese restaurants right now.... Haven't been to one in ages.
I don't like the basic lands. To me they don't look lands or even Magic cards. If it wasn't for the mana symbol I on most of them I wouldn't have a clue what they are look wise. Bit of an eye sore if you ask me. Looks like crappy wall art hanged at a cheap run down Chinese restaurant that hasn't updated its look since the 70's. Ugly. Note remind me to not buy any the collectors packs as I know each pack contains an undesirable eye sore instead of usable basic. It is like those ugly lands like evolving wilds from Forgotten Realms. They were unusably ugly too.
Traditional basic lands are also an option for those who are critical of this iteration. I welcome to variety and personally love the full art Japanese basics.
I don't like the basic lands. To me they don't look lands or even Magic cards. If it wasn't for the mana symbol I on most of them I wouldn't have a clue what they are look wise. Bit of an eye sore if you ask me. Looks like crappy wall art hanged at a cheap run down Chinese restaurant that hasn't updated its look since the 70's. Ugly. Note remind me to not buy any the collectors packs as I know each pack contains an undesirable eye sore instead of usable basic. It is like those ugly lands like evolving wilds from Forgotten Realms. They were unusably ugly too.
If you get any and want to give them away I will take them off your hands.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
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Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
I never knew someone could be so miserable over something so small!
The lands are unique and not for everyone, but I think that's cool. They will have regular basics in the set as well so don't get so bent out of shape.
Kaito s tanuki is a reference to Back40 KushMint cannabis vape cartridges .
The manga art Kaito is a reference to MegaMan X .
The anime art Kaito is a reference to the climax scene of Ninja Scroll .
Is it just me, or does phasing not trigger ETB abilities ka? Which means loads of n00bs are going to be bouncing him every turn , until a rules professional comes along and tells them otherwise ,
leading to a million different renditions of "What?! Only once?!"
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Not so sure about that. It's only one card and not a ridiculously powerful one. What are the odds of getting a specific foil borderless mythic in a collector booster?
Tried Kaito in Modern in that Ephemerate Reanimator deck (in Cockatrice against myself). He was fairly good there - this is one of those rare decks where looting really matters, and he often can get in at least a Ninja and a loot/card before going down, partially thanks to his initial phasing out letting him dodge getting attacked for a turn. He should be great against UW Control, but I need to test against that deck (I mainly tested against midrange, which wasn't that kind to him).
Honestly, card draw/looting and token-making on the same 3-cmc walker looks nigh-unprecedented.
But it looks absolutely terrible, even if it's rare I don't know why people would pay premium for it
The prices of these will set a precedent.
Either rarity alone makes them worth something, or people simply dont care, and they dont carry much worth.
Anyone that just wants a copy to play has PLENTY of variations to choose from, which undermines the value substantially, but the guy that for whatever reason wants to collect all variations might pay a premium (but there cant be many of that group).
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I would not pay for sure. That artwork/coloration is borderline cheesy and far to juvenile to my tastes. With that said there are going to be a lot of players the exact opposite that this will be very attractive to them.
I'm going to have to be very discriminating of the artwork in this set to find cards that I can tolerate. Luckily for me its just a one off set. I don't want to dampen the enthusiasm that some may be getting from this.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Like 5-10 years ago, sure. For rares nowadays we are way past that. And by current powercreep standards it isn't even that good, though I am intrigued by trying to combo with with an eldrazi on top of your deck to deal a ton of damage to someone.
HIDETSUGU! I am so relieved to see that this set will feature continuity with the old (and highly revered) lore, and connect both the old and new Kamigawa once again. Perfect - they'd done their homework on behalf of Vorthos!
I LOVE that digital/tech Manga art for Kaito. Honestly, it's time for a 5c EDH deck so I can play him alongside some other legends and PWs I want
I am getting very clear and sincere vibes from this revisit. I am confident Kamigawa is going to be a hit for everyone
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
well... my go to card used to be Derelor from fallen empires 4/4 for 3b, but with the drawback that every subsequent black spell gets more expensive by b
but ya it used to come with drawbacks
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You're really making me miss Chinese restaurants right now.... Haven't been to one in ages.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
If you get any and want to give them away I will take them off your hands.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
The lands are unique and not for everyone, but I think that's cool. They will have regular basics in the set as well so don't get so bent out of shape.
The manga art Kaito is a reference to MegaMan X .
The anime art Kaito is a reference to the climax scene of Ninja Scroll .
Is it just me, or does phasing not trigger ETB abilities ka? Which means loads of n00bs are going to be bouncing him every turn , until a rules professional comes along and tells them otherwise ,
leading to a million different renditions of "What?! Only once?!"
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