This effect has been done before and it was very playable in Limited, Standard, and Commander. The issue with that life reset ability isn't hitting 11 mana, it's having 8 targets in your graveyard with different mana values.
8 targets may be tough, but in Commander that's a game changing move (IF they deck doesn't rely on life gain, by which if you are above 40 life, it's actually a hinderance opposed to a boon).
In a fast green Zoo deck w/ a lot of mana acceleration, this is a beast of a card. It'll find it's way into many decks, as it's not too limiting, as with deck that maxes out on 4 cmc, there's: 1, G, 2, 1G, GG, 2G, 3, 1GG, GGG, 4, 3G, 2GG, 1GGG (this cost is pretty rare though) & GGGG (also pretty rare).
It would be al ittle bit of a work around to mkae sure there's diversity, but then Seasons Past should/would get played.
8 targets may be tough, but in Commander that's a game changing move (IF they deck doesn't rely on life gain, by which if you are above 40 life, it's actually a hinderance opposed to a boon).
In a fast green Zoo deck w/ a lot of mana acceleration, this is a beast of a card. It'll find it's way into many decks, as it's not too limiting, as with deck that maxes out on 4 cmc, there's: 1, G, 2, 1G, GG, 2G, 3, 1GG, GGG, 4, 3G, 2GG, 1GGG (this cost is pretty rare though) & GGGG (also pretty rare).
It would be al ittle bit of a work around to mkae sure there's diversity, but then Seasons Past should/would get played.
Mana value doesn't work that way. It is simply a new term for converted mana cost.
8 targets may be tough, but in Commander that's a game changing move (IF they deck doesn't rely on life gain, by which if you are above 40 life, it's actually a hinderance opposed to a boon).
In a fast green Zoo deck w/ a lot of mana acceleration, this is a beast of a card. It'll find it's way into many decks, as it's not too limiting, as with deck that maxes out on 4 cmc, there's: 1, G, 2, 1G, GG, 2G, 3, 1GG, GGG, 4, 3G, 2GG, 1GGG (this cost is pretty rare though) & GGGG (also pretty rare).
It would be al ittle bit of a work around to mkae sure there's diversity, but then Seasons Past should/would get played.
Mana value doesn't work that way. It is simply a new term for converted mana cost.
I believe "mana value" includes mana weight, ie how much color to how much colorless, in addition to numerical value. I mentioned "cmc" because only going 4 deep has 14 different values this can can tackle to return the life total to the starting life total.
I believe "mana value" includes mana weight, ie how much color to how much colorless, in addition to numerical value. I mentioned "cmc" because only going 4 deep has 14 different values this can can tackle to return the life total to the starting life total.
Nope, mana value is a new term replacing converted mana cost, that's it. Mana cost and mana value are not the same thing.
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Spoiler EditorThis effect has been done before and it was very playable in Limited, Standard, and Commander. The issue with that life reset ability isn't hitting 11 mana, it's having 8 targets in your graveyard with different mana values.
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and for thr life reset you don't need to jump threw hoops with resolute archangel and Oketra's last mercy (for last mercy just throw in a seedborn muse or turnabout)
In a fast green Zoo deck w/ a lot of mana acceleration, this is a beast of a card. It'll find it's way into many decks, as it's not too limiting, as with deck that maxes out on 4 cmc, there's: 1, G, 2, 1G, GG, 2G, 3, 1GG, GGG, 4, 3G, 2GG, 1GGG (this cost is pretty rare though) & GGGG (also pretty rare).
It would be al ittle bit of a work around to mkae sure there's diversity, but then Seasons Past should/would get played.
Mana value doesn't work that way. It is simply a new term for converted mana cost.
I believe "mana value" includes mana weight, ie how much color to how much colorless, in addition to numerical value. I mentioned "cmc" because only going 4 deep has 14 different values this can can tackle to return the life total to the starting life total.
Nope, mana value is a new term replacing converted mana cost, that's it. Mana cost and mana value are not the same thing.