Nykthos Exemplar 4WW
Enchantment Creature - Human Soldier (Rare)
Whenever you gain life, you may put that many +1/+1 counters on each creature you control. Do this only once per turn. Although Heliod betrayed humanity out of his lust for power, the ideals he formerly defended are still very present. (flavor text) Action: Start at 190C and design a spirit known as Eidolon that looks like a human soldier and wields a large shield (art direction)
4/6
Big yikes on that restriction. Maybe throw it in anything that has a massive lifegain boost once a turn (probably combat).
If or anybody complaining on the last part if you removed the last part you basicly just been a more busted Archangel of Thune
so they had to add that part or else it would have had to be printed in mythic rare rather than rare.
They didnt have to upgrade its rarity at all.
The restriction is just a hassle and as the cards without the restriction already exist, its completely unnecessary here.
Its just such a terrible way to "fix" cards this way, so it would be better to not have the card at all instead.
Does everyone ignores "that many" or is "that many" not enough for everyone? Gee, some cards can gain you 7 life. A healing salve single mana gives +3/+3 to all.
Awesome in Trostoni tokens. As long as Trostoni is on the battlefield, this dude gains you 6 life, makes all your tokens +6/6 and he himself comes in as a 10/12.
It's still jank, but every once in a while, this will cause an incredibly explosive win. Go wide with tiny soldier tokens, then suddenly attack with a whole army of 20+/20+ creatures.
Does everyone ignores "that many" or is "that many" not enough for everyone? Gee, some cards can gain you 7 life. A healing salve single mana gives +3/+3 to all.
In EDH I'll use either Heliod Sun Crowned or Soul of Theros. Heliod is especially nice. 1W, hit for 5, add 5 +1/+1 counters on ALL creatures. It's insane.
This is a strong commander card. Everyone who wanted this without restriction is a fool. You just have to plan around a big life gain. Even a creature with lifelink is enough. A creature with lifelink and vigilance can work both in your turn and in opponents' turn.
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This is a strong commander card. Everyone who wanted this without restriction is a fool. You just have to plan around a big life gain. Even a creature with lifelink is enough. A creature with lifelink and vigilance can work both in your turn and in opponents' turn.
Exactly. My only gripe with the card is being 6 mana, which delays the benefit. White especially needed some early aggression with lifegain. Frankly though, I'll make it work. It's 5 CMC with Starfield Mystic and possibly less if I go the GW or GWU (Kestia) route with the Enchantress deck I am planning.
Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
At the same time though, the effect can snowball quite well over successive turns. The larger your lifelink creature for example, the more life, the more power, etc. It's really so much fun. Being an enchantment gives it more synergy with cards than Archangel, including tutoring it, casting it for cheaper, and protecting it with cards like Sterling Grove.
Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.
Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
At the same time though, the effect can snowball quite well over successive turns. The larger your lifelink creature for example, the more life, the more power, etc. It's really so much fun. Being an enchantment gives it more synergy with cards than Archangel, including tutoring it, casting it for cheaper, and protecting it with cards like Sterling Grove.
Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.
Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
At the same time though, the effect can snowball quite well over successive turns. The larger your lifelink creature for example, the more life, the more power, etc. It's really so much fun. Being an enchantment gives it more synergy with cards than Archangel, including tutoring it, casting it for cheaper, and protecting it with cards like Sterling Grove.
Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.
Nykthos is a temple, not a character. Nyx is a character, but is female.
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Here is the problem. If you attack with a creature with big attack and lifelink you get the counter after your attack and you have to wait a full turn circle until you can attack with those again.
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
At the same time though, the effect can snowball quite well over successive turns. The larger your lifelink creature for example, the more life, the more power, etc. It's really so much fun. Being an enchantment gives it more synergy with cards than Archangel, including tutoring it, casting it for cheaper, and protecting it with cards like Sterling Grove.
Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.
Nykthos is a temple, not a character. Nyx is a character, but is female.
Not quite.
Something I admire about Theros Creative is that they brought the real-world concept of "myths are embellished realities" to the design of the plane.
Playing on the trope, Nykthos is the main shrine to the gods, but is also actually named after Nykthos,the Divine Artisan who built and designed the temple, who was the very first Nyxborn, created by Kruphix and tasked with constructing the temple to honor the pantheon. Nkythos was slain on the Four Winds Plateau, which is a major historical event in Theros history.
Nyx is the night sky where the gods dwell. Therefore, there is in fact a Legend named Nykthos, without a card.
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Get a round of +1/+1 counters just about every turn for your whole team. On your turn, if you have a lifelink creature, the lifegain grows dramatically.
Nykthos Exemplar 4WW
Enchantment Creature - Human Soldier (Rare)
Whenever you gain life, you may put that many +1/+1 counters on each creature you control. Do this only once per turn.
Although Heliod betrayed humanity out of his lust for power, the ideals he formerly defended are still very present. (flavor text)
Action: Start at 190C and design a spirit known as Eidolon that looks like a human soldier and wields a large shield (art direction)
4/6
Big yikes on that restriction. Maybe throw it in anything that has a massive lifegain boost once a turn (probably combat).
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so they had to add that part or else it would have had to be printed in mythic rare rather than rare.
They didnt have to upgrade its rarity at all.
The restriction is just a hassle and as the cards without the restriction already exist, its completely unnecessary here.
Its just such a terrible way to "fix" cards this way, so it would be better to not have the card at all instead.
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|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Beacon of Immortality
And I'm sure there are others.
It's still jank, but every once in a while, this will cause an incredibly explosive win. Go wide with tiny soldier tokens, then suddenly attack with a whole army of 20+/20+ creatures.
It could have been 4 CMC though
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Angelic Chorus, Path of Bravery, Proper Burial, Mastery of the Unseen, Orim's Prayers among other various cards that benefits from gaining chuncks of life instead of lots of tiny life gains
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
The best way to use this is with Trostani like effects. So he does something when you cast him for freaky 6 mana or you have some way to get big life numbers in the same turn. Which can be problematic because those high life number cards cost a ton of mana. If you are able to cheat him to the battlefield and use some of those expensive big life gain cards good for you. If you already have access to 12 mana than great.
Small life gain cards just works better because they come in form of enchantments and with CC of max 3... sticking around granting you much more life in the end and adding some additional effects (like graveyard hate, control etc). As a cleric he would have been a little better. In my casual edh group he would be to slow in a lifegain deck other than Trostani.
In addition he needs another card to work. Archangel of Thune has lifelink and doesn't feels so clunky.
Man this makes me wish we had Nykthos himself, the character, as a card.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
without the restriction its insanely over powered and would make even the smallest amount of lifegain go wildly out of control.
if both of those things are true, then it just shouldn't have been printed at rare, or at all really. another turd of a rare.
Wasn't Nykthos the Space where the God Dwell???
Nykthos is a temple, not a character. Nyx is a character, but is female.
Something I admire about Theros Creative is that they brought the real-world concept of "myths are embellished realities" to the design of the plane.
Playing on the trope, Nykthos is the main shrine to the gods, but is also actually named after Nykthos,the Divine Artisan who built and designed the temple, who was the very first Nyxborn, created by Kruphix and tasked with constructing the temple to honor the pantheon. Nkythos was slain on the Four Winds Plateau, which is a major historical event in Theros history.
Nyx is the night sky where the gods dwell. Therefore, there is in fact a Legend named Nykthos, without a card.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
its a second archangel of thune
pucatrade
big receipts
alpha mox emerald
beta time walk
4 goyfs received
3 liliana of the veil
4 karn liberated
3 force of will
4 grove of the burnwillows
snapcaster mage
3 horizon canopy
2 full art damnation
Get a round of +1/+1 counters just about every turn for your whole team. On your turn, if you have a lifelink creature, the lifegain grows dramatically.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||