How about don't get involved in politics at all, neither liberal nor conservative, and just be a card game company delivering a good fantasy product that is a fun escape for people from our modern dismal reality?
Also, I am pleased you put the bit concerning Jesus christ in quotes, because frankly, Christianity is a Arab/Jewish religion from the Middle East that clearly the West does not understand, and has clearly corrupted (erroneously utilizing it out of context to justify slavery for example) if it's being associated with homophobia, racism, or anything else hateful or divisive, considering its founding principles are love for all no matter what, forgiveness, lack of judgement etc. Jesus never even discusses homosexuality at all, presumably finding it irrelevent, and his followers are frequently alarmed throughout the entire New Testament, just from the events they recall, how he would dine with "sinners," save women from being stoned, treat them as equals (and often superiors) to men to the surprise of all, associated with people from various racial backgrounds giving no damn about societal rules (healing a Roman general's daughter despite them being the oppressors, the Samaritan woman at the well, etc.) I'll never forget when an annoying loud liberal atheist friend of mine kept trying to paint Jesus as some misogynist based on his personal experience with misogynist christians (who are therefore hypocrites) until I began referencing all the examples in which Jesus actually favors women in the Bible, including the scene between Mary and Martha, in which Mary actually has the right idea all along. Don't forget the three Marys at the foot of the cross - women are essential to Christianity with the Virgin Mary essentially occupying a goddess-like role in Catholicism (the original Christianity) - so do all Arab Christians who literally live where Jesus walked and prayed a favor and separate the flawed human western institution of religion and the church (and all their abhorrent and hypocritical sins) from the actual founder of Christianity, his message, and his actual doctrine.
"BUT TIRO SAID RACIST THINGS!" - Please also spare me from this indoctrinated mob mentality, that lynches people to compensate, repeating the same sins on new victims to somehow atone. People who are neutral want products independent of politics because we're sick of how divisive and militant people are, even when brandishing genuinely good causes. There is this tone of retribution and exclusion that makes a lot of these otherwise good virtues seem more like revenge than actual altruism, and that is the real reason it's opposed. Reasonable neutral people don't like supporting something that feels like it explicitly excludes people for social justice. Because the exclusion itself was the original issue that created the obvious disparities (which do indeed exist for racial and socio-economic groups, and not just Black Americans, but very much including them regardless) that we contend with now. If there seemed to be more attempts to address more than just the extremes, it would feel more genuine. Also, I criticized Planeswalkers in general in a Kaya thread, not her specifically, and I'll reiterate that this product appearing during Black History Month is appropriate, even if I feel not enough is being done to positively impact male development. People seem to think creating new disparities between men and women is somehow going to resolve the issue of "toxic masculinity" using force instead of proper development for young men to address the issue. Bullying or depriving men into submission is only creating new disparities instead of addressing the root cause - the healthy emotional development of young boys into good men. But I digress. I know better than to expect WOTC to fund raise anything supporting young boys - it's all about pulling the lever to the extreme other side for them, until it is inevitably too far, and then in a century or so we find ourselves yanking it to the next extreme all over again.
Anyway, my point is, conservatism is not racism, homophobia, or anything anyone is indoctrinated to believe it is. And if you're incapable of understanding what it really means for individual people, then that sounds like a good reason to keep politics out of games.
Ah, so you're one of those people that equates Black History Month with reverse racism.
Where did I explicitly say that?
This concept of "you are what I am indoctrinated to perceive you to be" and this judgment of people based on thoughts someone is inferred to have is what unravels the liberal platform for me. It's a dangerous precedent that people don't realize is actually very regressive and primal, literally a witch trial. Liberals justify it because they believe it's justice for a good cause (opposing racism) even thought fundamentally, it is rooted in the same twisted hatred from which racism itself is derived, applied to new victims.
"Being mean to racists is just as bad as being racist" is another yikes take.
There's a difference between someone who is actually racist, and people you're inferring to be for the convenience of justifying lust for violence. Trail of mob-inferred thoughts is a witch hunt.
So what would you say about the people on this site screaming that Kaya's inclusion in Kaldheim is terrible? Because screaming for someone to excluded entirely based on the color of their skin IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF RACISM.
Racist is as racist does. If an idea or policy you hold is harmful to a minority group - actively or passively, whether you mean it to or not - that idea or policy is most certainly racist (or homophobic, etc). This is true of many people who happen to believe otherwise simply because they ‘have a black friend,’ never use the n-word, or, in this case, admit that charity is a good idea but think it should be funneled elsewhere.
Ah, so you're one of those people that equates Black History Month with reverse racism.
Where did I explicitly say that?
This concept of "you are what I am indoctrinated to perceive you to be" and this judgment of people based on thoughts someone is inferred to have is what unravels the liberal platform for me. It's a dangerous precedent that people don't realize is actually very regressive and primal, literally a witch trial. Liberals justify it because they believe it's justice for a good cause (opposing racism) even thought fundamentally, it is rooted in the same twisted hatred from which racism itself is derived, applied to new victims.
"Being mean to racists is just as bad as being racist" is another yikes take.
There's a difference between someone who is actually racist, and people you're inferring to be for the convenience of justifying lust for violence. Trail of mob-inferred thoughts is a witch hunt.
So what would you say about the people on this site screaming that Kaya's inclusion in Kaldheim is terrible? Because screaming for someone to excluded entirely based on the color of their skin IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF RACISM.
Except I never said that. This may be the interpretation that is most convienent for you and your preconcieved agenda here, but I actually criticized Planeswalkers in general being Mary Sues that should be inferior to Legendary Creatures, especially after the Mending, but are not. This is an argument I've made in many threads in the past (Gideon vs. Ulamog, Gatewatch vs. Eldrazi, Kiora vs. Thassa, Jace, Sorin and Tamiyo vs. Avacyn, all Planeswalkers vs. Guild Leaders in War of the Spark, Nissa vs. Kefnet) and happened to make again in a thread about Kaya. People agreed with my stance that WOTC frequently kills off Legends instead of Planeswalkers to emphasize stakes, which feels cheap, but once that generalized statement was made in a Kaldheim thread that happened to have a black Planeswalker in it that I did not even specifically comment on, suddenly it became a topic of racism.
And that's why crying wolf is harming acknowledgement of genuine cases of racism. It's really juvenile.
You may have missed me making that statement so often because I did so in the Storyline threads more often, but it's been a consistent stance of mine.
You seem to be under the misapprehension that there is an incredibly high threshold for something to be considered ‘genuinely’ racist. Allow me to dispel that for you: there is not.
This concept of "you are what I am indoctrinated to perceive you to be" and this judgment of people based on thoughts someone is inferred to have is what unravels the liberal platform for me. It's a dangerous precedent that people don't realize is actually very regressive and primal, literally a witch trial. Liberals justify it because they believe it's justice for a good cause (opposing racism) even thought fundamentally, it is rooted in the same twisted hatred from which racism itself is derived, applied to new victims.
"Being mean to racists is just as bad as being racist" is another yikes take.
There's a difference between someone who is actually racist, and people you're inferring to be for the convenience of justifying lust for violence. Trail of mob-inferred thoughts is a witch hunt.
So what would you say about the people on this site screaming that Kaya's inclusion in Kaldheim is terrible? Because screaming for someone to excluded entirely based on the color of their skin IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF RACISM.
Except I never said that. This may be the interpretation that is most convienent for you and your preconcieved agenda here, but I actually criticized Planeswalkers in general being Mary Sues that should be inferior to Legendary Creatures, especially after the Mending, but are not. This is an argument I've made in many threads in the past (Gideon vs. Ulamog, Gatewatch vs. Eldrazi, Kiora vs. Thassa, Jace, Sorin and Tamiyo vs. Avacyn, all Planeswalkers vs. Guild Leaders in War of the Spark, Nissa vs. Kefnet) and happened to make again in a thread about Kaya. People agreed with my stance that WOTC frequently kills off Legends instead of Planeswalkers to emphasize stakes, which feels cheap, but once that generalized statement was made in a Kaldheim thread that happened to have a black Planeswalker in it that I did not even specifically comment on, suddenly it became a topic of racism.
And that's why crying wolf is harming acknowledgement of genuine cases of racism. It's really juvenile.
You may have missed me making that statement so often because I did so in the Storyline threads more often, but it's been a consistent stance of mine.
So you choose to ignore that actual racism that is happening to claim that people are just triggered lib looking for a fight?
You may not have made that statement, but other people on this site sure as hell have.
"Being mean to racists is just as bad as being racist" is another yikes take.
There's a difference between someone who is actually racist, and people you're inferring to be for the convenience of justifying lust for violence. Trail of mob-inferred thoughts is a witch hunt.
So what would you say about the people on this site screaming that Kaya's inclusion in Kaldheim is terrible? Because screaming for someone to excluded entirely based on the color of their skin IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF RACISM.
Except I never said that. This may be the interpretation that is most convienent for you and your preconcieved agenda here, but I actually criticized Planeswalkers in general being Mary Sues that should be inferior to Legendary Creatures, especially after the Mending, but are not. This is an argument I've made in many threads in the past (Gideon vs. Ulamog, Gatewatch vs. Eldrazi, Kiora vs. Thassa, Jace, Sorin and Tamiyo vs. Avacyn, all Planeswalkers vs. Guild Leaders in War of the Spark, Nissa vs. Kefnet) and happened to make again in a thread about Kaya. People agreed with my stance that WOTC frequently kills off Legends instead of Planeswalkers to emphasize stakes, which feels cheap, but once that generalized statement was made in a Kaldheim thread that happened to have a black Planeswalker in it that I did not even specifically comment on, suddenly it became a topic of racism.
And that's why crying wolf is harming acknowledgement of genuine cases of racism. It's really juvenile.
You may have missed me making that statement so often because I did so in the Storyline threads more often, but it's been a consistent stance of mine.
So you choose to ignore that actual racism that is happening to claim that people are just triggered lib looking for a fight?
You may not have made that statement, but other people on this site sure as hell have.
I am not responsible for the statements of others, only my own, and when I am called racist (despite being the victim of racism IRL, actually) for making an argument I have consistently made about Magic Lore for years, yes, I will be offended that something I know for a fact is real, and that I experience, is being trivialized and that people are crying wolf with it. Because that harms me more if racism isn't seen as a serious issue.
Listen, we've had this conversation already about other products Wizards has released. Everyone on this website is an extreme liberal. Two generations are brainwashed extreme liberals. If you argue against extreme liberalism you will be shouted down. You will be hunted to the point of losing your job or worse. There are all kinds of news stories like that and it's disgusting.
You have to understand the rational arguments are over. Just enjoy the societal collapse. Arguing against the ideology behind this product is a massive waste of time.
In the context of a product available for purchase that you disagree with there is only one solution of not buying the product. Solution: Don't buy the product.
You’re projecting.
Yup. There is also insufficient understanding in the post as to what the word Liberalism actually means.
This is so far off the rails from discussing Magic at this point; I'm shutting this down.
It's Black History Month, people... Making a product themed to that is not pandering, nor political. It's literally the theme of the month, and a Nationally recognized cultural event.
I am going to take this moment to reiterate that MTGS stands behind inclusion initiatives, and increased diversity in Magic, these forums, and in life in general. Statements made against inclusion or diversity hold no place here.
I am also going to reiterate that MTGS is not a place to argue about politics or social issues. Period.
So what would you say about the people on this site screaming that Kaya's inclusion in Kaldheim is terrible? Because screaming for someone to excluded entirely based on the color of their skin IS THE TEXTBOOK DEFINITION OF RACISM.
Racist is as racist does. If an idea or policy you hold is harmful to a minority group - actively or passively, whether you mean it to or not - that idea or policy is most certainly racist (or homophobic, etc). This is true of many people who happen to believe otherwise simply because they ‘have a black friend,’ never use the n-word, or, in this case, admit that charity is a good idea but think it should be funneled elsewhere.
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And that's why crying wolf is harming acknowledgement of genuine cases of racism. It's really juvenile.
You may have missed me making that statement so often because I did so in the Storyline threads more often, but it's been a consistent stance of mine.
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Cards I still want to see created:
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#BLM
#DefundThePolice
So you choose to ignore that actual racism that is happening to claim that people are just triggered lib looking for a fight?
You may not have made that statement, but other people on this site sure as hell have.
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Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Wish these conversations could be had without going quite this far off the rails.
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Yup. There is also insufficient understanding in the post as to what the word Liberalism actually means.
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— Teferi
It's Black History Month, people... Making a product themed to that is not pandering, nor political. It's literally the theme of the month, and a Nationally recognized cultural event.
I am going to take this moment to reiterate that MTGS stands behind inclusion initiatives, and increased diversity in Magic, these forums, and in life in general. Statements made against inclusion or diversity hold no place here.
I am also going to reiterate that MTGS is not a place to argue about politics or social issues. Period.
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