yay, more 50 cent mythics... glad they just got a reprint in foil. i have so much money and i think buying double masters is more co2 friendly than just burning the money.
What had (has) the biggest impact in the format(s) they were (are) legal in: Maelstrom Nexus or The First Sliver?
They’re both EDH cards.
First Sliver is better in Sliver decks, MN is for other 5-color decks.
Sliver is nice though since it gives Cascade to all Slivers, not just the first each turn.
dilute dilute dilute, can't have too many people getting those good mythics.
gotta keep em buying lotto tickets. gamble! GAMBLE!
You are allowed to dislike Wizards' business model, but "no bulk rares" isn't a solution. That would just mean vendors would charge even more for packs. Many good cards in this set would be disappointing if you opened them in a $30 pack. If you really hate the gambling aspect but don't want to buy singles, advocate for a living card game model. Just be aware that that means a lower budget for R&D, and a lower quality game.
Please, mill me. Mill my important cards. Mill my lands. Mill it all. Because I will still deal 20 damage before you can mill 45 cards most every time.
You are allowed to dislike Wizards' business model, but "no bulk rares" isn't a solution. That would just mean vendors would charge even more for packs. Many good cards in this set would be disappointing if you opened them in a $30 pack. If you really hate the gambling aspect but don't want to buy singles, advocate for a living card game model. Just be aware that that means a lower budget for R&D, and a lower quality game.
You can CHARGE whatever you want for the product.
What matters is what people are actually willing to pay.
Making a tremendously great product sells, if you can charge super high prices for something thats actually worth it, fine.
Here we get a crap product and they STILL charge extra premium for it.
Just hope you open anything of value, otherwise its a money grave thats especially deep.
And speaking of charging, up until two days ago or so, Double Masters displays were starting at €233 on Cardmarket, and now they have suddenly jumped up hugely, to €270!!!
It's like there were a few more good spoilers among all the chaff people are complaining about, and that alone made everyone decide "Oh, people will pay much more for this!"
And speaking of charging, up until two days ago or so, Double Masters displays were starting at €233 on Cardmarket, and now they have suddenly jumped up hugely, to €270!!!
It's like there were a few more good spoilers among all the chaff people are complaining about, and that alone made everyone decide "Oh, people will pay much more for this!"
Vast majority of stores that would sell them did not order any, Corona and all.
People didnt pre-order these , as the spoiler cards looked so terrible (and still do).
If a big store puts in 100+ displays prices tank again, till then, tiny and mostly private people order a bunch to resell them.
You are allowed to dislike Wizards' business model, but "no bulk rares" isn't a solution. That would just mean vendors would charge even more for packs. Many good cards in this set would be disappointing if you opened them in a $30 pack. If you really hate the gambling aspect but don't want to buy singles, advocate for a living card game model. Just be aware that that means a lower budget for R&D, and a lower quality game.
You can CHARGE whatever you want for the product.
What matters is what people are actually willing to pay.
Making a tremendously great product sells, if you can charge super high prices for something thats actually worth it, fine.
Here we get a crap product and they STILL charge extra premium for it.
Just hope you open anything of value, otherwise its a money grave thats especially deep.
To my knowledge, the set has no MSRP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the retailers decide the price of the product, not Wizards. All Wizards has done wrong is make too good of a product.
Please, mill me. Mill my important cards. Mill my lands. Mill it all. Because I will still deal 20 damage before you can mill 45 cards most every time.
You are allowed to dislike Wizards' business model, but "no bulk rares" isn't a solution. That would just mean vendors would charge even more for packs. Many good cards in this set would be disappointing if you opened them in a $30 pack. If you really hate the gambling aspect but don't want to buy singles, advocate for a living card game model. Just be aware that that means a lower budget for R&D, and a lower quality game.
You can CHARGE whatever you want for the product.
What matters is what people are actually willing to pay.
Making a tremendously great product sells, if you can charge super high prices for something thats actually worth it, fine.
Here we get a crap product and they STILL charge extra premium for it.
Just hope you open anything of value, otherwise its a money grave thats especially deep.
To my knowledge, the set has no MSRP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the retailers decide the price of the product, not Wizards. All Wizards has done wrong is make too good of a product.
Wizards didn't make too good a product. MSRP is a protection for both the consumer and the retailer. When a company sets an MSRP, they take the guesswork out of "what should I really be paying for this?" for the consumer and "what should I price this at to be competitive with store y" for the retailer. Industry standard for games is a 100% markup between what the store pays and sells a game for. (before you complain, specialty clothing is upwards of 400%! your coca-cola is a 200% markup, conversely a playstation 3 had an MSRP of literally the wholesale cost). You remove MSRP and you create a lot of unnecessary work for businesses and consumers. Furthermore, it pushes the consumer to check online to determine where to shop - and often that leads to a path away from patronizing an LGS.
WoTC is going to sell these packs to the store(or distributor probably) for probably 10$ a pack. Stores have already accepted that to remain slightly competitive, that 100% markup is gone, they are operating on a 50% markup. Factor in the costs of doing business (ebay/paypal/shipping fees for online, rent/utilities/salaries/shrinkage for brick and mortar) and those packs are costing the seller 13$ each. $310 bucks a box is pretty nearly the break even point. Isn't it wonderful that WOTC removed MSRP - now the stores can sell those packs at a loss and the consumer still feels like he got ripped off.
Ah, thank you for the information. Do we have confirmation that Wizards is charging retailers too much? It still seems like this could be another Modern Masters 2013 situation.
Please, mill me. Mill my important cards. Mill my lands. Mill it all. Because I will still deal 20 damage before you can mill 45 cards most every time.
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Spoiler EditorAnyone want big splashy mythics that aren't artifacts for once?
EDIT: How the hell is Maelstrom Nexus still $11, and Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund $15? Is this another Rolling Earthquake situation with Mystery Booster?
Source: Gaby Spartz
at least I can't say the same for the maelstrom Nexus
gotta keep em buying lotto tickets. gamble! GAMBLE!
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They’re both EDH cards.
First Sliver is better in Sliver decks, MN is for other 5-color decks.
Sliver is nice though since it gives Cascade to all Slivers, not just the first each turn.
You are allowed to dislike Wizards' business model, but "no bulk rares" isn't a solution. That would just mean vendors would charge even more for packs. Many good cards in this set would be disappointing if you opened them in a $30 pack. If you really hate the gambling aspect but don't want to buy singles, advocate for a living card game model. Just be aware that that means a lower budget for R&D, and a lower quality game.
You can CHARGE whatever you want for the product.
What matters is what people are actually willing to pay.
Making a tremendously great product sells, if you can charge super high prices for something thats actually worth it, fine.
Here we get a crap product and they STILL charge extra premium for it.
Just hope you open anything of value, otherwise its a money grave thats especially deep.
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It's like there were a few more good spoilers among all the chaff people are complaining about, and that alone made everyone decide "Oh, people will pay much more for this!"
Vast majority of stores that would sell them did not order any, Corona and all.
People didnt pre-order these , as the spoiler cards looked so terrible (and still do).
If a big store puts in 100+ displays prices tank again, till then, tiny and mostly private people order a bunch to resell them.
The true "whales" buy into VIP packs anyway.
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👮👮👮 #BlueLivesMatter 👮👮👮
To my knowledge, the set has no MSRP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the retailers decide the price of the product, not Wizards. All Wizards has done wrong is make too good of a product.
Wizards didn't make too good a product. MSRP is a protection for both the consumer and the retailer. When a company sets an MSRP, they take the guesswork out of "what should I really be paying for this?" for the consumer and "what should I price this at to be competitive with store y" for the retailer. Industry standard for games is a 100% markup between what the store pays and sells a game for. (before you complain, specialty clothing is upwards of 400%! your coca-cola is a 200% markup, conversely a playstation 3 had an MSRP of literally the wholesale cost). You remove MSRP and you create a lot of unnecessary work for businesses and consumers. Furthermore, it pushes the consumer to check online to determine where to shop - and often that leads to a path away from patronizing an LGS.
WoTC is going to sell these packs to the store(or distributor probably) for probably 10$ a pack. Stores have already accepted that to remain slightly competitive, that 100% markup is gone, they are operating on a 50% markup. Factor in the costs of doing business (ebay/paypal/shipping fees for online, rent/utilities/salaries/shrinkage for brick and mortar) and those packs are costing the seller 13$ each. $310 bucks a box is pretty nearly the break even point. Isn't it wonderful that WOTC removed MSRP - now the stores can sell those packs at a loss and the consumer still feels like he got ripped off.