In One Bite W
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target tapped creature. Put a +1/+1 counter on the creature tapped to cast this spell. "The world is a better place with one less poacher in it."
—Winota, Heartbonder
I wonder if this can eat its way into Constructed playability.
I am not sure WotC has thoroughly considered the flavour implications of this card in other respects, either. Unless they are furtively marketing towards certain niche tastes to which the notion of having your Thalia, Heretic Cathar gulp down your opponent's (humanoid) creatures whole specifically appeals. That seems rather unlikely, though, unless someone in R&D has a personal investment in such things.
Pioneer Mono White Humans may want to give this one a go???
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This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
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WOut of the ground,I rise to grace...W BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Really nice card. It's exactly what I wanted White to get - efficient removal, but something that Azorius Control can't just stick into their decks and call it a day. It's not amazing, but it's solid.
As for the flavor being more G rather than W... well that's the payback for Green creeping into White's color pie, I guess?
Huh, I figured that card to mean that the dino was baffled by the human's end. As in the dino going "Huh, wonder what it was that just made this human go 'Poof!' like that. Too bad, I really wante to eat this one. Oh well..."
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
I’m not arguing that its a mechanical fail. Its a huge flavor fail from the name. It’s completely idiotic to have that name when the guy in said art could turn around and casually eat the behemoth he’s falling to. Flavor wise how are you justifying a 1/1 human eating an 8/7 behemoth when cannibalism isn’t how white deals with that?
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Mechanically? Hell no this is definitely white
I know mechanical it’s more white or black(wait why wasn’t this black!!!!) but sometimes you have to borrow from another color but put restrictions on how its done.
For example
Swallowed Whole G
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast ~, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target creature if it has less power than the creature you tapped to cast ~. If the target was exiled, put a +1/+1 counter on the creature you tapped to cast ~.
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WOut of the ground,I rise to grace...W BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
Huh, I figured that card to mean that the dino was baffled by the human's end. As in the dino going "Huh, wonder what it was that just made this human go 'Poof!' like that. Too bad, I really wante to eat this one. Oh well..."
More specifically, that seems to be a vampire that got serious sunburn and then a confused dinosaur wandering on the scene to smell the ashes. But I suppose this tangent is beside the point.
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Weren't they just getting flak a couple months ago how the green side of the color pie was taking more from the other segments?
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
I’m not arguing that its a mechanical fail. Its a huge flavor fail from the name. It’s completely idiotic to have that name when the guy in said art could turn around and casually eat the behemoth he’s falling to. Flavor wise how are you justifying a 1/1 human eating an 8/7 behemoth when cannibalism isn’t how white deals with that?
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Mechanically? Hell no this is definitely white
I know mechanical it’s more white or black(wait why wasn’t this black!!!!) but sometimes you have to borrow from another color but put restrictions on how its done.
For example
Swallowed Whole G
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast ~, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target creature if it has less power than the creature you tapped to cast ~. If the target was exiled, put a +1/+1 counter on the creature you tapped to cast ~.
Turning a white card into a green card is a pretty clear example of how design for magic sets doesn't work. This was likely filling a "cheap white removal with a drawback that plays into the flavor/mechanics of the set" role. You don't solve that by making it green, you'd have to solve that by creating a different white, powerful cheap removal spell, that preferably would have synergy with the set mechanics.
Huh, I figured that card to mean that the dino was baffled by the human's end. As in the dino going "Huh, wonder what it was that just made this human go 'Poof!' like that. Too bad, I really wante to eat this one. Oh well..."
More specifically, that seems to be a vampire that got serious sunburn and then a confused dinosaur wandering on the scene to smell the ashes. But I suppose this tangent is beside the point.
I don't necessarily see it as beside the point. We are discussing a card's flavor and someone used another card as a supposed precedent, which doesn't seem to actually be accurate. Unless we discard flavor as an essential aspect of this game's popularity, even if it doesn't factor into gameplay, I believe this aspect of the card's discussion is perfectly fine.
Huh, I figured that card to mean that the dino was baffled by the human's end. As in the dino going "Huh, wonder what it was that just made this human go 'Poof!' like that. Too bad, I really wante to eat this one. Oh well..."
More specifically, that seems to be a vampire that got serious sunburn and then a confused dinosaur wandering on the scene to smell the ashes. But I suppose this tangent is beside the point.
I don't necessarily see it as beside the point. We are discussing a card's flavor and someone used another card as a supposed precedent, which doesn't seem to actually be accurate. Unless we discard flavor as an essential aspect of this game's popularity, even if it doesn't factor into gameplay, I believe this aspect of the card's discussion is perfectly fine.
If you want a more direct instance of this flavor in white, Trapjaw Tyrant is mono white from the same set, and definitely involves white flavored eating as removal.
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
I’m not arguing that its a mechanical fail. Its a huge flavor fail from the name. It’s completely idiotic to have that name when the guy in said art could turn around and casually eat the behemoth he’s falling to. Flavor wise how are you justifying a 1/1 human eating an 8/7 behemoth when cannibalism isn’t how white deals with that?
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Mechanically? Hell no this is definitely white
I know mechanical it’s more white or black(wait why wasn’t this black!!!!) but sometimes you have to borrow from another color but put restrictions on how its done.
For example
Swallowed Whole G
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast ~, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target creature if it has less power than the creature you tapped to cast ~. If the target was exiled, put a +1/+1 counter on the creature you tapped to cast ~.
Then you shouldn’t cite two cards that are mechanical color pie failures as examples. That’s the issue with those cards. Using this as an example of a third card like the other two shows a fundamental misunderstanding of why those two cards are issues.
Granted, looking at what you think a fixed Beast Within looks like I’m not sure you get the mechanical concerns in general.
I'd personally argue that Beast Within/Chaos Warp are acceptable cards. Yeah, green creature kill and red enchantment kill are kind of no nos, but Beast Within leaves them with a 3/3 creature that from the flavor burst out of the other creature. It's weird in general but perfectly fitting for New Phyrexia. Chaos Warp also is a very random effect that can backfire on you big time. Yeah, it gives you enchantment removal but they might get a Blightsteel instead. As far as In One Bite, it's perfectly fine. A guy is getting eaten by a dinosaur. Nothing is ever going to be perfect flavor. Even if you make it green, you have birds, bees, butterflies, ants, saprolings, all kinds of things eating a 50 foot tall statue. Most creatures couldn't realistically wield a Loxodon Warhammer, nevermind Colossus Hammer, but they can in the card game. An ice elemental can wield a flaming sword. A snake can wear boots. You can murder vampires, zombies, and spirits. A plane can drive a race car that's driving a train.
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
I’m not arguing that its a mechanical fail. Its a huge flavor fail from the name. It’s completely idiotic to have that name when the guy in said art could turn around and casually eat the behemoth he’s falling to. Flavor wise how are you justifying a 1/1 human eating an 8/7 behemoth when cannibalism isn’t how white deals with that?
This honestly just need a slight tweak and should have been green. Like only being able to exile a creature with less power than the one you tapped to cast the spell and being able to target an untapped creature. Like damn WotC how it it that player can look at your ideas you spent years on making and point out the flaws and fix them in short order.
Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember. Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands. Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Mechanically? Hell no this is definitely white
I know mechanical it’s more white or black(wait why wasn’t this black!!!!) but sometimes you have to borrow from another color but put restrictions on how its done.
For example
Swallowed Whole G
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast ~, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target creature if it has less power than the creature you tapped to cast ~. If the target was exiled, put a +1/+1 counter on the creature you tapped to cast ~.
Then you shouldn’t cite two cards that are mechanical color pie failures as examples. That’s the issue with those cards. Using this as an example of a third card like the other two shows a fundamental misunderstanding of why those two cards are issues.
Granted, looking at what you think a fixed Beast Within looks like I’m not sure you get the mechanical concerns in general.
Oh wow, I didn't even notice that their "player reaction" to the problem with Beast Within is... make it even more explicitly a color pie break? The issue with Beast within isn't hitting enchantments and planeswalkers, it's the fact that it's a mono-green card killing creatures.
In One Bite W
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target tapped creature. Put a +1/+1 counter on the creature tapped to cast this spell.
"The world is a better place with one less poacher in it."
—Winota, Heartbonder
I wonder if this can eat its way into Constructed playability.
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BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
Its decent removal, its just feels odd
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Seriously this is at least the third big one i can remember.
Beast Within Players- This should just hit artifacts, creatures and lands.
Chaos Warp Players- Why doesn’t this keep going until it finds another permanent to put in play?
BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
Why is this a mechanical color pie failure? The examples you listed both are, while White can exile things, and add +1 counters. Combining the two isn’t an issue, it doesn’t violate any mechanical limits for White.
Flavorwise yes, the name should have made it green.
Mechanically? Hell no this is definitely white
It makes a baconator look like quiche.
That's a cool flavour (:D) win. Being a sorcery hurts it but overall a cool card to have.
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As for the flavor being more G rather than W... well that's the payback for Green creeping into White's color pie, I guess?
Huh, I figured that card to mean that the dino was baffled by the human's end. As in the dino going "Huh, wonder what it was that just made this human go 'Poof!' like that. Too bad, I really wante to eat this one. Oh well..."
I’m not arguing that its a mechanical fail. Its a huge flavor fail from the name. It’s completely idiotic to have that name when the guy in said art could turn around and casually eat the behemoth he’s falling to. Flavor wise how are you justifying a 1/1 human eating an 8/7 behemoth when cannibalism isn’t how white deals with that?
I know mechanical it’s more white or black(wait why wasn’t this black!!!!) but sometimes you have to borrow from another color but put restrictions on how its done.
For example
Swallowed Whole G
Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast ~, tap an untapped creature you control.
Exile target creature if it has less power than the creature you tapped to cast ~. If the target was exiled, put a +1/+1 counter on the creature you tapped to cast ~.
BAfter the lights go out on you, after your worthless life is through. I will remember how you scream...B
More specifically, that seems to be a vampire that got serious sunburn and then a confused dinosaur wandering on the scene to smell the ashes. But I suppose this tangent is beside the point.
I don't necessarily see it as beside the point. We are discussing a card's flavor and someone used another card as a supposed precedent, which doesn't seem to actually be accurate. Unless we discard flavor as an essential aspect of this game's popularity, even if it doesn't factor into gameplay, I believe this aspect of the card's discussion is perfectly fine.
Then you shouldn’t cite two cards that are mechanical color pie failures as examples. That’s the issue with those cards. Using this as an example of a third card like the other two shows a fundamental misunderstanding of why those two cards are issues.
Granted, looking at what you think a fixed Beast Within looks like I’m not sure you get the mechanical concerns in general.