Still hoping for Gideon someday to return as human planeswalker. Felt so sad they have to kill him.
Im okay with him turned into a creature, Elsepth is alive so is Giddy can do it since his soul is a birth resident of Theros that has afterlife.
Elspeth isn’t from Theros, so that wasn't needed to get to the Underworld. Anyone can get to the Underworld simply by dying. Getting to Nyx wasn’t easily done by planeswalkers and required help from a God in the first place. Getting to the Elysian Fields analogue in Theros isn’t going to be easy either and would require a Gods help also.
As we have seen with Phenax and Ashiok before, some gods (specifically Phenax) are open to letting you do pretty much whatever if your tongue is silver enough.
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I’ve been dying to know who this Sexy boi is since the last leak. I’m really excited for this character. I hope he’s a plansewalker native of Theros, with a specialty in devotion magic, but I actually suspect he may be Nykthos himself, the divine artisan that fashioned the original Nykthos shrine by the same name (Greek myth and Theros love to do that with names, Arixmethes city and kraken as well for example)
Nykthos would be Legendary enchantment creature - human (artisan?)
Meitner way he is one of the cards I want and I absolutely adore everything we are seeing. The artworks on Ashiok and Elspeth are phenomenal, the promos as well which I love (I hope we get marble statue god cards as well. A marble Thassa is something I am not about to handle, but will)
That’s it. This freaking does it. I’m calling it. This is my favorite booster set in MtG of all time
Ashiok number 3 is amazing that combos with Ashiok, Dream Render and leyline of the void and that +1 is absurd with e creatures that cause exile mill whenever they attack or block with nice bodies
The god certain will see play in edh but that coin ability is not even close to good it needs to be faster with a activation cost rather than endstep but giga protection since it protects creatures from exile I want exile protection and to keep going
That new Ashiok looks powerful in a Dimir Control shell, which I happen to have, I'll definitely test it in that deck, and I hope we get more planeswalkers like that in the future, CMC 4+ finishers instead of 6-loyalty 3-mana mistakes or a crippling static ability that used to cost 5 mana getting a 2-mana discount.
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Hmmm seems to be a nyxborn thats maybe green. Many green red and weaving
yes I did just notice the weaving... the instrument he has appears to be for that as well. But the fates are female. Could he be like Tymna and control fate magic? But that doesn’t seem like a green ability. And building a shrine doesn’t appear to be a green desire either, so perhaps he isn’t Nykthos after all. Kruphix created Nykthos, who I imagine is a blue white or mono blue character.
I mean.... 6 mana.
then it puts 1 "regeneration shield" on a creature every turn.
If the CMC was any lower it would be broken with starfield mystic in the format.
Just imagine if Baral wasn't legendary or if marauding raptor was all upside with no drawback.
Starfield mystic will be great with Athreos and sagas... Just wait!
I mean.... 6 mana.
then it puts 1 "regeneration shield" on a creature every turn.
If the CMC was any lower it would be broken with starfield mystic in the format.
Just imagine if Baral wasn't legendary or if marauding raptor was all upside with no drawback.
Starfield mystic will be great with Athreos and sagas... Just wait!
I just saw the basics on Twitter. That said, are only Nux basics available for Theros? I really wanted some genuine Grecian landscape basics for Theros honestly... surely there will be some for at least the other products like planeswalker decks and all that? Perhaps?
Starfield Mystic is amazing. Him with Omen of the Sea is just remarkable. One mana instant scry 2, draw and +1 blue devotion with an activation cost waiting at any time is fire.
Ashiok, Nightmare Muse i think is a good card but probably needs more cards to see play. Maybe someone makes a Esper Exile list before the rotation, but after i can only see a graveyard cards metters deck, unless people use hin/her/it just for the value alone.
Also Atheros is probably really nice for commander as you can put a coin on any creature and they return to play in your control. Looks fun!
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Ashiok, Nightmare Muse i think is a good card but probably needs more cards to see play. Maybe someone makes a Esper Exile list before the rotation, but after i can only see a graveyard cards metters deck, unless people use hin/her/it just for the value alone.
With a return to Zendikar confirmed as the block after Theros: Beyond Death, I wonder if we’ll see a little bit of the exile matters stuff from what’s left of the eldrazi on Zendikar?
I know It’s probably unlikely, but some playable cards with ingest or something like ingest would be interesting. That or cards that feed on the Opponent’s graveyard rather than their library.
As it is Ashiok might see play in a deck that goes all in on control, using the opponent’s stuff exiled with unmoored ego and the like.
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again, no where does this say you can't cast cards from your yard. i dont see how you can't cast elspeth from the yard.
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again, no where does this say you can't cast cards from your yard. i dont see how you can't cast elspeth from the yard.
With Fires of Invention, you can cast her from your graveyard only for her escape cost, not without paying. @ForgottenPlaneswalker was talking about casting Elspeth with Fires of Invention from the graveyard. @Minoke correctly pointed out that Fires of Invention doesn't allow you to skip paying for alternate costs and that the cost skipping doesn't apply to Escape cards from the graveyard because Escape card's ability to be cast from the graveyard is conditional on paying the alternate cost.
Athreos looks cool. He's not super good, which is good for me because he might be cheap to pick up.
I'm interested in seeing the other Gods. I predict it will only be the primary 5 mono colored ones in the set though.
Athreos is good though. He works at end step, the “death” of your turn and is all about controlling death. It’s super thematic and I love the consistent template with devotion.
I prefer only having the mono color gods. I’m excited to see Thassa and what she will do this time
Athreos is super good in EDH. If debtors' knell is playable in your playgroup, this Athreos will be very strong
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That Ashiok fills me with so much joy, easily goes in my PW EDH deck and my 4 color "Your Deck" EDH, although I'm not sure what to take out for it. The tokens are annoying, the -3 is annoying, and the ultimate is the ultimate annoyance for your opponent.
He’s sort of a Charon-like underworld ferryman, but this time he requires the creature to pay in “coins” instead of your opponent paying in life. Very interesting design. I’d run it.
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As we have seen with Phenax and Ashiok before, some gods (specifically Phenax) are open to letting you do pretty much whatever if your tongue is silver enough.
Nykthos would be Legendary enchantment creature - human (artisan?)
Meitner way he is one of the cards I want and I absolutely adore everything we are seeing. The artworks on Ashiok and Elspeth are phenomenal, the promos as well which I love (I hope we get marble statue god cards as well. A marble Thassa is something I am not about to handle, but will)
That’s it. This freaking does it. I’m calling it. This is my favorite booster set in MtG of all time
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
The god certain will see play in edh but that coin ability is not even close to good it needs to be faster with a activation cost rather than endstep but giga protection since it protects creatures from exile I want exile protection and to keep going
Oh one more thing
The basics were real
They are also showing off theros beyond death cards at the video game awards
https://magic.wizards.com/en
So very classy I get theros cards shown off and the last fighter pack of the first package of super smash brothers ultimate dlc
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
If the CMC was any lower it would be broken with starfield mystic in the format.
Just imagine if Baral wasn't legendary or if marauding raptor was all upside with no drawback.
Starfield mystic will be great with Athreos and sagas... Just wait!
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Starfield Mystic is amazing. Him with Omen of the Sea is just remarkable. One mana instant scry 2, draw and +1 blue devotion with an activation cost waiting at any time is fire.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
1) where does it say you cant cast spells from the grave??
2) you can still just pay mana directly
in no way does fire stop you from casting elspeth, am i missing something??
Maybe after rotation of RtRtR block and m20 those cards can see play.
With Eldraine forward Fires of Invention will probably use Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis and Kenrith, the returned king as the cards to go (top end)(looks like) when Cavalier of Flame and most of the top end cards leave standard.
Ashiok, Nightmare Muse i think is a good card but probably needs more cards to see play. Maybe someone makes a Esper Exile list before the rotation, but after i can only see a graveyard cards metters deck, unless people use hin/her/it just for the value alone.
Also Atheros is probably really nice for commander as you can put a coin on any creature and they return to play in your control. Looks fun!
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With a return to Zendikar confirmed as the block after Theros: Beyond Death, I wonder if we’ll see a little bit of the exile matters stuff from what’s left of the eldrazi on Zendikar?
I know It’s probably unlikely, but some playable cards with ingest or something like ingest would be interesting. That or cards that feed on the Opponent’s graveyard rather than their library.
As it is Ashiok might see play in a deck that goes all in on control, using the opponent’s stuff exiled with unmoored ego and the like.
I like the new Athreos. Less combo worthy, but the benefit is LONG. And you get to steal opponent's creatures.
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That Nyx legendary border is sweet
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Confirmation that Athreos is not an outlier and the other god cards is Theros will also reuse the devotion activation from original Theros block. Not surprising, but still.
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again, no where does this say you can't cast cards from your yard. i dont see how you can't cast elspeth from the yard.
With Fires of Invention, you can cast her from your graveyard only for her escape cost, not without paying. @ForgottenPlaneswalker was talking about casting Elspeth with Fires of Invention from the graveyard. @Minoke correctly pointed out that Fires of Invention doesn't allow you to skip paying for alternate costs and that the cost skipping doesn't apply to Escape cards from the graveyard because Escape card's ability to be cast from the graveyard is conditional on paying the alternate cost.
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I'm interested in seeing the other Gods. I predict it will only be the primary 5 mono colored ones in the set though.
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I prefer only having the mono color gods. I’m excited to see Thassa and what she will do this time
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
He’s sort of a Charon-like underworld ferryman, but this time he requires the creature to pay in “coins” instead of your opponent paying in life. Very interesting design. I’d run it.