Well we could add an argument that Enter the God-Eternals actually is a enabler for Elspeth and the mechanic as well. Will it be enough for a esper control to be good? Idk. But i will keep an eye on the cards with that mechanic.
They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
Elspeth Tirel (the seccond elspeth) had tokens as a - minus. Also this Elspeth can only minus lul.
I was obviously referring to the 2 broken elspeths and not the crappy one.
The reason why token creation should never be a plus ability is that it makes it virtually impossible for aggro decks to remove the walker unless you have trample.
They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
Elspeth Tirel (the seccond elspeth) had tokens as a - minus. Also this Elspeth can only minus lul.
I was obviously referring to the 2 broken elspeths and not the crappy one.
The reason why token creation should never be a plus ability is that it makes it virtually impossible for aggro decks to remove the walker unless you have trample.
I mean, the “weak” Elspeth saw play as well. It was in 2 lists of that “era” and later. Even in some spotlights of the protuor. Fast mana made it good. In Theros big Elspeth would probably be killed by rats or not protect you from capitalism or from some fish
They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
Elspeth Tirel (the seccond elspeth) had tokens as a - minus. Also this Elspeth can only minus lul.
I was obviously referring to the 2 broken elspeths and not the crappy one.
The reason why token creation should never be a plus ability is that it makes it virtually impossible for aggro decks to remove the walker unless you have trample.
Or just a bigger board, removal spells, damage spells, bounce spells etc. We are still talking about 1/1 tokens right? There is manace or the "can't be blocked by creatures with 2 or less atk", flying.
Aggro decks are usually fast. Most of the time spending 4 mana for a 1/1 should put you behind against an aggro deck.
We have a crazy Questing Beast in standard right now. I don't think 1/1 token generation can be too broken.
The other elspeth has a +1 ability that gives +3/+3 and flying and that was far superior to the 1/1 token.
They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
Elspeth Tirel (the seccond elspeth) had tokens as a - minus. Also this Elspeth can only minus lul.
I was obviously referring to the 2 broken elspeths and not the crappy one.
The reason why token creation should never be a plus ability is that it makes it virtually impossible for aggro decks to remove the walker unless you have trample.
Or just a bigger board, removal spells, damage spells, bounce spells etc. We are still talking about 1/1 tokens right? There is manace or the "can't be blocked by creatures with 2 or less atk", flying.
Aggro decks are usually fast. Most of the time spending 4 mana for a 1/1 should put you behind against an aggro deck.
We have a crazy Questing Beast in standard right now. I don't think 1/1 token generation can be too broken.
The other elspeth has a +1 ability that gives +3/+3 and flying and that was far superior to the 1/1 token.
You obviously never played against it then, cause the +3/+3 ability is almost never used.
Any token provides a blocker, and making it a plus ability is like getting two plus abilities for one since you stop an attack.
I hope Theros has a novel release as well, especially if it’s written by Either Kate Elliott, Jenna Heland again (please yes) or Kelly Digges (come on already just throw the guy a bone, he was among your best authors).
idk about you guys but Sagas make this set feel more like Theros than the original Theros did haha I just love it!
I hope Theros has a novel release as well, especially if it’s written by Either Kate Elliott, Jenna Heland again (please yes) or Kelly Digges (come on already just throw the guy a bone, he was among your best authors).
idk about you guys but Sagas make this set feel more like Theros than the original Theros did haha I just love it!
I love the Sagas as well. I hope one day we get Kamigawa Sagas. And with Commander Legends it's possible.
Flicker of Fate is a great enabler with the black aura that draws you 3 upon entering the battlefield. And that red aura that deals 4 damage upon entry. Wow...
This is kinda poetic...complete silence and tightlipped-ness during the War of the Spark arc and now leaks are flowing like a bladder infection. Can't help but grin at this. I mean remember what happened when we got the leaked sheets of Ixalan like a few months in advance? Look at what it did for interest and excitement in the set (to some extent).
Edit: It feels like they're finally doing teh enchantment theme right this time around.
Escape looks really good in limited; at least from looking at the two cards shown. The Spider does a LOT. An Escape deck, however, requires cards in the graveyard, so if that's easy to do then maybe we can start talking.
Also excited to see some Krakens. Wish we could have had a new Kraken spoiled.
Also, I want to like the lands, but they feel kind of boring to me. I would have liked it if they weren't so "on the nose" about it. Maybe somehow blend the symbol in more with a little bit of landscape beneath them? Kind of like how the original Gods looked? I feel like this is kind of lazy.
Escape looks really good in limited; at least from looking at the two cards shown. The Spider does a LOT. An Escape deck, however, requires cards in the graveyard, so if that's easy to do then maybe we can start talking.
Also excited to see some Krakens. Wish we could have had a new Kraken spoiled.
Escape looks really good in limited; at least from looking at the two cards shown. The Spider does a LOT. An Escape deck, however, requires cards in the graveyard, so if that's easy to do then maybe we can start talking.
Also excited to see some Krakens. Wish we could have had a new Kraken spoiled.
I absolutely agree. Here’s to hoping there’s some sea monster support. Last visit to Theros gave us whelming wave and many new ocean critters
Pegasus and Medusa (well, not in MTG, but in many other media) welcome Typhon to the club.
There's a difference, I think. For one both of those have been made generic by culture for years. Secondly there are myths where Medusa isn't the only gorgon. Typhon, however is a different matter. It's not something that culture has made generic. It's not even something a lot of people would know about off hand. Typhon is a cataclysmic creature, father to monsters. To make Typhon into a kind of creature rather than a specific one is an odd choice. Notably I'm not complaining. Just an observation.
Escape is really strong. Once it's recursive, imagine that you would cast that black spell many times, over and over, if the escape cost was low on the mana.
I really hope they do at least one vanilla black cheap creature with an alternative escape cost.. something like CMC 1, 2/1, and the escape cost as "discard two cards, exile two other cards".
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I was obviously referring to the 2 broken elspeths and not the crappy one.
The reason why token creation should never be a plus ability is that it makes it virtually impossible for aggro decks to remove the walker unless you have trample.
I mean, the “weak” Elspeth saw play as well. It was in 2 lists of that “era” and later. Even in some spotlights of the protuor. Fast mana made it good. In Theros big Elspeth would probably be killed by rats or not protect you from capitalism or from some fish
Or just a bigger board, removal spells, damage spells, bounce spells etc. We are still talking about 1/1 tokens right? There is manace or the "can't be blocked by creatures with 2 or less atk", flying.
Aggro decks are usually fast. Most of the time spending 4 mana for a 1/1 should put you behind against an aggro deck.
We have a crazy Questing Beast in standard right now. I don't think 1/1 token generation can be too broken.
The other elspeth has a +1 ability that gives +3/+3 and flying and that was far superior to the 1/1 token.
You obviously never played against it then, cause the +3/+3 ability is almost never used.
Any token provides a blocker, and making it a plus ability is like getting two plus abilities for one since you stop an attack.
idk about you guys but Sagas make this set feel more like Theros than the original Theros did haha I just love it!
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
rest of the commons from the TBH leak
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I love the Sagas as well. I hope one day we get Kamigawa Sagas. And with Commander Legends it's possible.
What a disastrous leak. Not as bad as Dominaria's, but bad enough. And wth, no Bestow?
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black aura that draws you 3 upon entering the battlefield.And that red aura that deals 4 damage upon entry. Wow...This is kinda poetic...complete silence and tightlipped-ness during the War of the Spark arc and now leaks are flowing like a bladder infection. Can't help but grin at this. I mean remember what happened when we got the leaked sheets of Ixalan like a few months in advance? Look at what it did for interest and excitement in the set (to some extent).
Edit: It feels like they're finally doing teh enchantment theme right this time around.
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The black aura that has a condition that sacrifices it whenever you try to cast a spell on it to do any kind of shenanigans with it? That one?
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Also excited to see some Krakens. Wish we could have had a new Kraken spoiled.
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The other cards is a bet "meh" though. I hope they do other things than escaping with counters
They probably look cool in foil.
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|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Pegasus and Medusa (well, not in MTG, but in many other media) welcome Typhon to the club.
There's a difference, I think. For one both of those have been made generic by culture for years. Secondly there are myths where Medusa isn't the only gorgon. Typhon, however is a different matter. It's not something that culture has made generic. It's not even something a lot of people would know about off hand. Typhon is a cataclysmic creature, father to monsters. To make Typhon into a kind of creature rather than a specific one is an odd choice. Notably I'm not complaining. Just an observation.
I really hope they do at least one vanilla black cheap creature with an alternative escape cost.. something like CMC 1, 2/1, and the escape cost as "discard two cards, exile two other cards".
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