Looking at that art for Elspeth, it's looking like the left background image depicts her killing Xenagos, while the right one shows her stabbing Heliod in a very similar fashion. I mean, it's hardly an unexpected revelation, but it's neat to have it somewhat confirmed!
And yeah yeah, the basics look like Energy cards. I don't care, I think they're still really cool and I'm sure they'll look super amazing in foil!
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
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"Should we return to Theros!"
"Bingo!"
They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
It depends. If the Planeswalker cost like 6 mana or if it is just one token than a +ability is alright in the right color. White planeswalker doesn't generate card or mana advantage. They are all about field control/advantage.
The -3 ability is the worse ability I have seen on a planeswalker. The other two abilities are okayish. Escape is greate.
The card Furious Rise seem to picture a new God, doesn't it? The story text mentions Klothys. Do we know something about it?
Why is it I like the lands but don't like them at the same time?
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They finally realized that making tokens should always be a minus ability and not a plus.too bad we are stuck with the two older broken elsepeths.
It depends. If the Planeswalker cost like 6 mana or if it is just one token than a +ability is alright in the right color. White planeswalker doesn't generate card or mana advantage. They are all about field control/advantage.
The -3 ability is the worse ability I have seen on a planeswalker. The other two abilities are okayish. Escape is greate.
The card Furious Rise seem to picture a new God, doesn't it? The story text mentions Klothys. Do we know something about it?
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ITS EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED AND MORE
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First she creates 3 soldiers, second she has a built in finisher with her ultimate at -7 and a good board wipe at -3. She was strong with every ability.
We had standard iterations dominated by Planeswalkers that doesn't create any tokens. So nah. I don't think that a token generation need to be a minus ability.
First she creates 3 soldiers, second she has a built in finisher with her ultimate at -7 and a good board wipe at -3. She was strong with every ability.
We had standard iterations dominated by Planeswalkers that doesn't create any tokens. So nah. I don't think that a token generation need to be a minus ability.
Giving Elspeth a + ability in conjunction with Oko's +1 ability is a 3/3 creature and a 1/1 every turn with no draw back. Everyone would just play both. WOTC was not going to do this after banning Field of the Dead
What I like about this too is how they sort of borrowed Ferocious for this set without directly referencing it by ability word. I guess they did the same with Heroic in a sense too.
Nice to see devotion back too.
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First she creates 3 soldiers, second she has a built in finisher with her ultimate at -7 and a good board wipe at -3. She was strong with every ability.
We had standard iterations dominated by Planeswalkers that doesn't create any tokens. So nah. I don't think that a token generation need to be a minus ability.
Giving Elspeth a + ability in conjunction with Oko's +1 ability is a 3/3 creature and a 1/1 every turn with no draw back. Everyone would just play both. WOTC was not going to do this after banning Field of the Dead
Well he was talking about planeswalker abilities in general. I don't think that token generation has to be a minus ability. I am not talking about this Elspeth and I think powerwise the -2 token-ability is alright.
I am happy that she is still mono white.
If Oko is warping the format too much than he should be banned.
And yeah yeah, the basics look like Energy cards. I don't care, I think they're still really cool and I'm sure they'll look super amazing in foil!
You say that as if Underworld Dreams hasn't already been around since 1994
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I mean, so were Mana Drain, Karakas, Land Tax, and Sylvan Library. "Uncommon in Legends means fine at uncommon now" isn't really a sound foundation.
Not to mention the way the cards are distributed doesn't make much sense. I agree, the Walgreens story is probably just a cover up.
Packs, tokens a couple more cards
https://imgur.com/a/RDqgeB7#BKv7vpt
Edit oh and Constellation back too I almosted missed that.
Much happier for this than I was with Eldraine.
It depends. If the Planeswalker cost like 6 mana or if it is just one token than a +ability is alright in the right color. White planeswalker doesn't generate card or mana advantage. They are all about field control/advantage.
The -3 ability is the worse ability I have seen on a planeswalker. The other two abilities are okayish. Escape is greate.
The card Furious Rise seem to picture a new God, doesn't it? The story text mentions Klothys. Do we know something about it?
Now, I peronally hope that we see more "weird adaptations"- like for instance the sirens in Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dl2L4v6ecM
Troy: Total War is coming out soon, and we are seeing that minotaurs are really just humans with bull headdresses-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaSkIVpp_mI
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Elspeth and Jhoira rock my world.
ITS EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED AND MORE
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EVEN GOT SOME THASSA CASTING SPELLS ART AND ELYSIAN FIELDS REFERENCE!!!!! HAVE SOME SWEET DAMN MERCY ON MY DECREPIT SOUL I CANT TAKE THE WAIT ANY LONGER
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Cards I still want to see created:
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We had standard iterations dominated by Planeswalkers that doesn't create any tokens. So nah. I don't think that a token generation need to be a minus ability.
Giving Elspeth a + ability in conjunction with Oko's +1 ability is a 3/3 creature and a 1/1 every turn with no draw back. Everyone would just play both. WOTC was not going to do this after banning Field of the Dead
Klothys sounds a lot like Clotho, one of the Fates.
Nice to see devotion back too.
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Elspeth and Jhoira rock my world.
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Elspeth Tirel (the seccond elspeth) had tokens as a - minus. Also this Elspeth can only minus lul.
Well he was talking about planeswalker abilities in general. I don't think that token generation has to be a minus ability. I am not talking about this Elspeth and I think powerwise the -2 token-ability is alright.
I am happy that she is still mono white.
If Oko is warping the format too much than he should be banned.
Seems like they may be combining the fates with the furies for this, given the whole angry rising example.
it all depends on how the meta shapes up.
she's pretty great if some of the best decks in the meta are aggro, she'll be pretty good fighting that.
but in a vacuum, for me, she will be a weirder, slower but more flexible Lingering Souls lol.
weird card is weird, not bad for sure, but shouldn't be warping any metagames.