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Quote from Timba »Where is Pioneer sub-forum??
Quote from SpeedGrapher »People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone.
Quote from Xcric »Quote from SpeedGrapher »People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone. prices will stabilize, but i absolutely agree. people in this very thread have complained about the cost to get into modern, and this will be no different in very short order. they can't just go and reprint tons of stuff without adversely effecting standard so they forced themselves yet again into a corner where they won't do anything about the secondary market but it consistently causes a problem because of their approach to reprints
Quote from leslak »Quote from Xcric »Quote from SpeedGrapher »People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone. prices will stabilize, but i absolutely agree. people in this very thread have complained about the cost to get into modern, and this will be no different in very short order. they can't just go and reprint tons of stuff without adversely effecting standard so they forced themselves yet again into a corner where they won't do anything about the secondary market but it consistently causes a problem because of their approach to reprints Every card in pioneer is also in modern. Once they do another modern masters they can reprint pioneer stuff.
Quote from Melkor »Quote from leslak »Quote from Xcric »Quote from SpeedGrapher »People have already started buying up cards for the format. Siege Rhino went from $1 to $4 two days after the announcement. A lot of high volume buyout gambling is happening right now. Makes me not want to even bother with the format. At this point they can print Pioneer Masters in Summer 2020 or just forget about the format. I also don't feel like playing against Siege Rhino anymore. Everyone was trilled when it was gone. prices will stabilize, but i absolutely agree. people in this very thread have complained about the cost to get into modern, and this will be no different in very short order. they can't just go and reprint tons of stuff without adversely effecting standard so they forced themselves yet again into a corner where they won't do anything about the secondary market but it consistently causes a problem because of their approach to reprints Every card in pioneer is also in modern. Once they do another modern masters they can reprint pioneer stuff. right, because they handled that so well. Remember Tarmogoyf getting the mythic treatment, despite the initial announcement of the new rarity sounding a lot like 'we will not do it to SPECIFICALLY Tarmogoyf type cards'? they will take Modern and Pioneer tournament staples (and not nearly enough of either) put anything with real value at mythic, and put them in $7-10 packs with a bunch of chaff that not even the drafters are happy to see. they discontinued the Masters series because aside from the last hurrah of Ultimate, they ran it into the ground through poor implementation, and Modern still has a bunch of cards approaching or exceeding $100 apiece. and most of the problem cards are from sets with relatively lower print runs. I am skeptical about anything in this new format holding a high price, but Wizards can't really fix it if something does. say a card from BFZ skyrockets, TKS perhaps. if that absurd print run didn't provide us with enough copies, a Masters set won't be able to touch it. idk what the print run numbers of ANY set was, but I would wager that even after multiple Masters set reprints, there are still fewer copies of Tarmogoyf in the world than a given BFZ mythic. they need to go back to real reprints in core sets
Quote from Qysas »The Mirage fetch lands would be great for pioneer. I do have one question though If they reprint or print anything for Pioneer would it also be legal in modern and other formats?
Quote from Timba »Quote from Qysas »The Mirage fetch lands would be great for pioneer. I do have one question though If they reprint or print anything for Pioneer would it also be legal in modern and other formats? There would be no fetch lands for pioneer. I'm 99% sure they will ban mirage fetches in pioneer when they release them in return to zendikar in a year.
Quote from Qysas »Quote from Timba »Quote from Qysas »The Mirage fetch lands would be great for pioneer. I do have one question though If they reprint or print anything for Pioneer would it also be legal in modern and other formats? There would be no fetch lands for pioneer. I'm 99% sure they will ban mirage fetches in pioneer when they release them in return to zendikar in a year. The Mirage fetch lands are about the same speed as evolving wilds are they not?
Quote from Timba »Quote from Qysas »Quote from Timba »Quote from Qysas »The Mirage fetch lands would be great for pioneer. I do have one question though If they reprint or print anything for Pioneer would it also be legal in modern and other formats? There would be no fetch lands for pioneer. I'm 99% sure they will ban mirage fetches in pioneer when they release them in return to zendikar in a year. The Mirage fetch lands are about the same speed as evolving wilds are they not? Oh sorry I googled Mirage fetch lands and the first pic was with Onslaught fetch lands so I mixed them up with modern legal fetches. My comment was about regular modern fetches - Onslaught/Zendikar. I dont know about Mirage fetches, looks like Wizards dont like fetches much and would like to keep them at minimum to minimize shuffling effects in new formats.
Quote from Qysas »What you say is true. It would be nice to get some budget friendly fetch lands. Also a forum to talk and discuss deck designs for Pioneer would be great.