MTG Salvation

There is a deluxe edition of Throne that contains the following:
-16 Collector Boosters
-1 set-themed binder
-1 foil Garruk borderless card
-1 art print of Garruk
-1 non-foil Kenrith Buy-a-Box promo
-1 3x3 strip from a Throne foil sheet
-1 Arena online code for a digital Garruk sleeve and 1 digital copy each of Garruk, Charming Prince, Magic Mirror, Witch's Vengeance, Bonecrusher Giant, and Questing Beast

MSRP $449.99 starting October 2

$450 is ******* insane for that.

Easy pass (mostly because of the price, not worth). The binder is cool.

hahahahahahaha....hahaha..haha...ha....yeah, hard pass. $100-150, sure, but nothing you can possibly pull in this set will be worth that much

It took me a sec to realize these were collector boosters. Still overpriced, but I understand a little more now.

Oh those stupid idiots

Haven’t they learned from the mythic editions in all 3 ravnica sets

Why do they keep doing this?

I'd really hoped the fact that stores were getting Collectors Boosters meant they were coming to their senses, even though it's a crap product. Then they announce this.

Ugh.

Quote from Ryperior74 »

Oh those stupid idiots

Haven’t they learned from the mythic editions in all 3 ravnica sets

They haven't otherwise they would just have collector's boosters on this and on a very limited collector's booster boxes. At least people can buy those boosters, open in other products, etc. But imo if they had included some masterpieces on this Deluxe Edition then the product would sell easy... Imsgine if they had made a special foil version of any of these: Mana Echoes any of the tutors, Amulet of Vigor, Prismatic Omen, Rhystic Study, etc the inclusion of a promo that is only available by the box would make those sell really fast.

Quote from Mishotem »

Why do they keep doing this?

If people buy something that costs very little to make, they'll do it. They've got to have a way to pay for the extreme cost of these trailers somehow.

Quote from leslak »

Imsgine if they had made a special foil version of any of these: Mana Echoes any of the tutors, Amulet of Vigor, Prismatic Omen, Rhystic Study, etc the inclusion of a promo that is only available by the box would make those sell really fast.

I personally would hate it if Rhystic Study became easier to acquire in any way.

Quote from leslak »

Quote from Ryperior74 »

Oh those stupid idiots

Haven’t they learned from the mythic editions in all 3 ravnica sets

They haven't otherwise they would just have collector's boosters on this and on a very limited collector's booster boxes. At least people can buy those boosters, open in other products, etc. But imo if they had included some masterpieces on this Deluxe Edition then the product would sell easy... Imsgine if they had made a special foil version of any of these: Mana Echoes any of the tutors, Amulet of Vigor, Prismatic Omen, Rhystic Study, etc the inclusion of a promo that is only available by the box would make those sell really fast.

I like how when you mouse over Rhystic Study it shows the set symbol for the special foil version they printed.

They really are losing their minds with this MSRP $449.99 price. The collectors boosters have standard only cards. It's like they learned nothing from Shards of Alara. When those were selling for $10 and no one wanted them. $31.90 for a collectors standard only booster is just dumb. There will be 4-5 desirable extended art cards and the rest will not be.
Here is what they should have done. Regular booster booster box. Slide in a Collectors booster into every single one. Don't label it. Happy surprise when you get one. There is no way I would ever pay $250 for Midnight Clock (Extended Art), regular midnight clock is $0.65.
Hard pass on any collector booster product.

$450 for a bunch of cardboard... oooook

It's sad to say, but WotC is diving deeper and deeper into a very dangerous pool. Stating that they're incentivizing people to fall prey of ludopathy is maybe a stretch, but not a big one. Beeing a CCG doesn't mean you can do things like that without evaluating the consequences for the audience...

What bothers me more than anything is that this product will still sell out and they'll (rightfully, from an economic standpoint) think of it as a huge success, which we all know breeds repetition. Humans: how silly we are... and the homo ludens is sometimes the silliest of us all.

In the collectors boosters, is it possible for the extended art cards to be foil? Or are they all nonfoil?

...wait a moment. I thought wizards was done with giving out MSRP. What’s going on here?

Quote from Necr0maNc3R »

In the collectors boosters, is it possible for the extended art cards to be foil? Or are they all nonfoil?

I pretty sure they've said it is possible to get the extended art promos in foil, in the guaranteed foil rare/mythic slot

Yeah... how much a single collector booster is worth? 20$? 25?
Here in Europe they are around 20€ now, so this seem grossly overpriced

I was saying the same thing a couple of months ago in this thread, past post #88 and had members jumping down my throat.

https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/812585-major-changes-to-magic-announced-at-sdcc-new

Again, I won't be touching this product unless it is a free throw in.

Quote from WarMachinePrime »

I was saying the same thing a couple of months ago in this thread, past post #88 and had members jumping down my throat.

https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/812585-major-changes-to-magic-announced-at-sdcc-new

Again, I won't be touching this product unless it is a free throw in.

I was saying similar things with the release of uma. That ***** was just a trojan to see if there were enough gullible whales to increase the prices
And sadly, there were.

Gullible Whales. I'm going to use that one from now on.

I predicted a $1000 Ultimate Timmy box by 2021. I'm guessing the whales still have some gullible left in them.

Quote from ilovesaprolings »

Yeah... how much a single collector booster is worth? 20$? 25?
Here in Europe they are around 20€ now, so this seem grossly overpriced

Now, I'm not saying this is a particularly good product, but you technically do get your money's worth. At $25/pack price (though some stores might end up selling them for more, depending on print run size), the collector's boosters alone would cost $400. On top of that, you get a borderless Garruk, Cursed Huntsman, which might command a pretty penny by itself if he sees any standard play, a likely prospect given that the similar Vraska, Relic Seeker also did. The non-foil BaB promo probably will only have value for people who dislike foil cards, so its contribution will be negligible unless we have another Nexus of Fate on our hands. On top of all of that cardboard, you also could get value out of the peripherals. The binder, art print, foil sheet, and arena code could all be worth something if they're exclusive to the deluxe edition.

That being said, $450 is a monstrous price. It isn't hurting anybody for existing, though, so I don't see much need to get worked up over a product I'll never buy.

The product would be great without the expensive boosters.

Just a package of the binder for a set.

A binder with the sets art, that is big enough to hold 4x of each card of a set would be cool to have for a collector.

All the stuff would maybe sell for 50 bucks, that would be fine as a collectors "add-on".

Combining all of this with the boosters ramps the price up massive, so thats the catch and the misery of this product.

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They try to inflate the price tag of all their products by adding in expensive booster packs, which they learned (sadly, as people are just stupid), that people pay the premium price tag, some people dont know where to throw their money at ; and so some people are guaranteed to buy this no matter what.

Any half reasonable normal person will never be able to afford this kind of product ; a single 100 bucks each set is already stretching a lot of peoples wallets, this is just gets obscene and perverts the entire "value".

I already hate those Collector Booster because of their outrageous price, but this is even worse. The value just isn’t there but neither is the collector appeal. The binder is just a binder, the 3x3 sheet is a fraction of a collector’s item, the print isn’t even worth $10, the digital stuff is fluff and the Collector Boosters don’t justify the rest of the cost. Those boosters should cost $10 max, not $30. Those premium Alara boosters were like $8.99 and those were 15 foils.

Quote from BlazingRagnarok »

That being said, $450 is a monstrous price. It isn't hurting anybody for existing, though, so I don't see much need to get worked up over a product I'll never buy.

I disagree with it not hurting anybody. Maybe not today but I tell you with the direction of the "specialty" products that it could be harmful later on. Just like loot boxes in video games, they weren't hurting anybody at first but eventually it became a necessity to play games to compete. I could see WoTC sneaking in playable cards only obtainable in these specialty products. I hope not but with how much WoTC is digging into the pockets, it wouldn't surprise me.

Costs near nil to make, will be sold out almost instantly because idiots and their money are easily parted.
WotC must love this easy money.

Quote from Sneasel007 »

Quote from BlazingRagnarok »

That being said, $450 is a monstrous price. It isn't hurting anybody for existing, though, so I don't see much need to get worked up over a product I'll never buy.

I disagree with it not hurting anybody. Maybe not today but I tell you with the direction of the "specialty" products that it could be harmful later on. Just like loot boxes in video games, they weren't hurting anybody at first but eventually it became a necessity to play games to compete. I could see WoTC sneaking in playable cards only obtainable in these specialty products. I hope not but with how much WoTC is digging into the pockets, it wouldn't surprise me.

They are already sneaking in standard playable cards in ancillary products while at the same time making them unobtainable unless you buy the ancillary product or the collector boosters.
The slippery slope is already there and we already started sliding down.