She's a pretty obvious plant for Theros, but in a vacuum she kind of sucks. She's a sizable downgrade from Benalish Marshal (pun absolutely not intended).
She's a pretty obvious plant for Theros, but in a vacuum she kind of sucks. She's a sizable downgrade from Benalish Marshal (pun absolutely not intended).
The only cons is there’s no way they are making/reprinting all 15 gods probably just the ones that would be in the underworld realm with Erebos
She's a pretty obvious plant for Theros, but in a vacuum she kind of sucks. She's a sizable downgrade from Benalish Marshal (pun absolutely not intended).
Good thing there isn't anything in standard right now that can spit out Ajani's Pridemates...
why doesnt she has 4 colors like the king has 5 for all his knighthoods ?
Presumably because WOTC feel that they must create more powerful black female characters with only positive White qualities (purity, nobility, steadfastness, courage, etc) in order to subvert the intersectional power dynamics and overthrow the cis-normative white supremacist patriarchy, or something like that.
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Would it have killed them to push Linden a tiny bit? Like, "Whenever you gain life, you may pay 3. If you do, return a creature card with converted mana cost 2 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. If you paid three white mana this way, return two creatures each with converted mana cost 2 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield instead." That would tie nicely into her abilities in the lore.
And it helps with representation if people actually want the diversely represented cards in their decks.
Presumably because WOTC feel that they must create more powerful black female characters with only positive White qualities (purity, nobility, steadfastness, courage, etc) in order to subvert the intersectional power dynamics and overthrow the cis-normative white supremacist patriarchy, or something like that.
Can we not? Can we just not? Let’s just talk about the card and not about politics when something other than a white male is depicted in the card art for once please?
oh hooray, another creature that does that generic and boring thing that white does rather than actually explore the color... i guess new players will fawn over it like they do all life gain cards? not impressed.
why doesnt she has 4 colors like the king has 5 for all his knighthoods ?
Presumably because WOTC feel that they must create more powerful black female characters with only positive White qualities (purity, nobility, steadfastness, courage, etc) in order to subvert the intersectional power dynamics and overthrow the cis-normative white supremacist patriarchy, or something like that.
Sheesh, could you troll any more obviously? Rhetorical as I’m sure you can. She’s part of a cycle, none of the other cards are five color.
i get that she is part of a cycle
but storywise this doesnt fit, right ?
i mean the king is also white with 5 color abilities to mirror his 5 knighthoods. i get that they dont want to make her a cheap copy. so why not make her a 4 color creature instead (like a new atraxa). i am sure they got plenty other legends in the story to fill the role for the white card in the cycle
i get that she is part of a cycle
but storywise this doesnt fit, right ?
i mean the king is also white with 5 color abilities to mirror his 5 knighthoods. i get that they dont want to make her a cheap copy. so why not make her a 4 color creature instead (like a new atraxa). i am sure they got plenty other legends in the story to fill the role for the white card in the cycle
Why is everyone mentioning her "needing" to be four colors? Isn't she quite literally the queen of the White Court of Ardenvale, as opposed to the
Black Court of Lochthwain, the Blue Court of Vantress, the Green Court of Garenbrig, and the Red Court of Embereth? So like... she actually represents the monarchy in control of the literally-white-mana-associated court of loyalty within the feudal structure of Eldraine. Why would she be four colors?
Why is everyone mentioning her "needing" to be four colors? Isn't she quite literally the queen of the White Court of Ardenvale, as opposed to the
Black Court of Lochthwain, the Blue Court of Vantress, the Green Court of Garenbrig, and the Red Court of Embereth? So like... she actually represents the monarchy in control of the literally-white-mana-associated court of loyalty within the feudal structure of Eldraine. Why would she be four colors?
In the book, whilst questing in their youth, Kennreth and Linden sought to acquire knighthoods in all 5 kingdoms. Kennreth achieved this. Linden only got 4. For Kennreth this is reflected in his card having abilities of all 5 colors. People just want to see such threads carried all the way through.
Why is everyone mentioning her "needing" to be four colors? Isn't she quite literally the queen of the White Court of Ardenvale, as opposed to the
Black Court of Lochthwain, the Blue Court of Vantress, the Green Court of Garenbrig, and the Red Court of Embereth? So like... she actually represents the monarchy in control of the literally-white-mana-associated court of loyalty within the feudal structure of Eldraine. Why would she be four colors?
In the book, whilst questing in their youth, Kennreth and Linden sought to acquire knighthoods in all 5 kingdoms. Kennreth achieved this. Linden only got 4. For Kennreth this is reflected in his card having abilities abilites reflecting this. People just want to see such threads carried all the way through.
Ah, okay. That makes some sense, I suppose.
That being said, is that what the five color-activated abilities on Kennreth for sure represent? Or is that simply supposition?
Because--without reading the novel, granted--it makes 100% perfect sense that the High King of the realms has those five different color-based abilities simply because he is the monarch in control of all five mana-color-based Courts of Eldraine. As in, he quite literally has the political authority over and the power to command the use of all five courts of the realm with his word alone by virtue of being the High King, and those activated abilities represent his bringing to bear the power of a given court and its associated virtue (so loyalty for the white court, knowledge for blue, persistence for black, courage for red, and strength for the green court).
Not because he's undergone all the trials, but simply due to his political position. If the king of another court was the High King, I suspect they, too, would have five colored abilities to represent that authority over the five courts of Eldraine feudalism.
That being said, is that what the five color-activated abilities on Kennreth for sure represent? Or is that simply supposition?
Because--without reading the novel, granted--it makes 100% perfect sense that the High King of the realms has those five different color-based abilities simply because he is the monarch in control of all five mana-color-based Courts of Eldraine. As in, he quite literally has the political authority over and the power to command the use of all five courts of the realm with his word alone by virtue of being the High King, and those activated abilities represent his bringing to bear the power of a given court and its associated virtue (so loyalty for the white court, knowledge for blue, persistence for black, courage for red, and strength for the green court).
Not because he's undergone all the trials, but simply due to his political position. If the king of another court was the High King, I suspect they, too, would have five colored abilities to represent that authority over the five courts of Eldraine feudalism.
Linden is his wife... sssssoooooooooo.......... yes?
That being said, is that what the five color-activated abilities on Kennreth for sure represent? Or is that simply supposition?
Because--without reading the novel, granted--it makes 100% perfect sense that the High King of the realms has those five different color-based abilities simply because he is the monarch in control of all five mana-color-based Courts of Eldraine. As in, he quite literally has the political authority over and the power to command the use of all five courts of the realm with his word alone by virtue of being the High King, and those activated abilities represent his bringing to bear the power of a given court and its associated virtue (so loyalty for the white court, knowledge for blue, persistence for black, courage for red, and strength for the green court).
Not because he's undergone all the trials, but simply due to his political position. If the king of another court was the High King, I suspect they, too, would have five colored abilities to represent that authority over the five courts of Eldraine feudalism.
Linden is his wife... sssssoooooooooo.......... yes?
Being his wife doesn't necessarily give her the authority of the High King. Really depends on the laws of the land, so it can't be assumed the wife of the High King has the same authority over the five courts as the High King.
Why is everyone mentioning her "needing" to be four colors? Isn't she quite literally the queen of the White Court of Ardenvale, as opposed to the
Black Court of Lochthwain, the Blue Court of Vantress, the Green Court of Garenbrig, and the Red Court of Embereth? So like... she actually represents the monarchy in control of the literally-white-mana-associated court of loyalty within the feudal structure of Eldraine. Why would she be four colors?
In the book, whilst questing in their youth, Kennreth and Linden sought to acquire knighthoods in all 5 kingdoms. Kennreth achieved this. Linden only got 4. For Kennreth this is reflected in his card having abilities of all 5 colors. People just want to see such threads carried all the way through.
oh that's a shame a missed opportunity of a new 4 color legend maybe in the future of a return or supplament set or commander we will see her as a 4 color
Being his wife doesn't necessarily give her the authority of the High King. Really depends on the laws of the land, so it can't be assumed the wife of the High King has the same authority over the five courts as the High King.
It still makes her Queen of the High Court. It also means he is king, both of the High Court and Ardenvale(Hence why he is monowhite with 5 activated abilities not 5 color) Thus, hypothetically, she would have higher authority than the rulership of the other four courts. She could have had either design and it be an accurate portrayal of her character. They wanted her to fit into the ruler cycle and made Kennreth special because he was the BaB. The honest shame is that they didn't put some of the more minor characters on the uncommon legends. I.E. Syr Cato for the White uncommon Knight.
BTW for those who don't mind spoilers or don't intend to read the book you can find a pretty good summary here. (from this guys point of view the book isn't that much more worth a read than the WAR book was.)
Being his wife doesn't necessarily give her the authority of the High King. Really depends on the laws of the land, so it can't be assumed the wife of the High King has the same authority over the five courts as the High King.
It still makes her Queen of the High Court. It also means he is king, both of the High Court and Ardenvale(Hence why he is monowhite with 5 activated abilities not 5 color) Thus, hypothetically, she would have higher authority than the rulership of the other four courts. She could have had either design and it be an accurate portrayal of her character. They wanted her to fit into the ruler cycle and made Kennreth special because he was the BaB. The honest shame is that they didn't put some of the more minor characters on the uncommon legends. I.E. Syr Cato for the White uncommon Knight.
BTW for those who don't mind spoilers or don't intend to read the book you can find a pretty good summary here. (from this guys point of view the book isn't that much more worth a read than the WAR book was.)
This may come as a shock, but a queen, even the highest queen in a realm, often did NOT have all the powers of the king, especially if the king had a living oldest heir (in the real world usually male heir), and especially if she was not the blood mother of the heir(s). Such a queen would act, at best, as a regent, and answerable to the Lords and to the Crown Prince, without anything near the full powers of the monarchy herself. This is not always the case, but often enough. And we do not know what the laws and courtly rules of Eldraine are, so we still cannot say that Linden herself had the same power over the other Courts of Eldraine, simply because she's the High King's wife.
In a huge number of societies, Will and/or Rowan would have the power of the throne, and NOT a stepmother queen. So really, it's not at all unreasonable to think Kennreth's abilities represent his power as the High King alone, and having nothing to do with the knightly quests he and Linden apparently undertook in younger days, nor that anyone who's not the High King would NOT have such abilities.
Being his wife doesn't necessarily give her the authority of the High King. Really depends on the laws of the land, so it can't be assumed the wife of the High King has the same authority over the five courts as the High King.
It still makes her Queen of the High Court. It also means he is king, both of the High Court and Ardenvale(Hence why he is monowhite with 5 activated abilities not 5 color) Thus, hypothetically, she would have higher authority than the rulership of the other four courts. She could have had either design and it be an accurate portrayal of her character. They wanted her to fit into the ruler cycle and made Kennreth special because he was the BaB. The honest shame is that they didn't put some of the more minor characters on the uncommon legends. I.E. Syr Cato for the White uncommon Knight.
BTW for those who don't mind spoilers or don't intend to read the book you can find a pretty good summary here. (from this guys point of view the book isn't that much more worth a read than the WAR book was.)
This may come as a shock, but a queen, even the highest queen in a realm, often did NOT have all the powers of the king, especially if the king had a living oldest heir (in the real world usually male heir), and especially if she was not the blood mother of the heir(s). Such a queen would act, at best, as a regent, and answerable to the Lords and to the Crown Prince, without anything near the full powers of the monarchy herself. This is not always the case, but often enough. And we do not know what the laws and courtly rules of Eldraine are, so we still cannot say that Linden herself had the same power over the other Courts of Eldraine, simply because she's the High King's wife.
In a huge number of societies, Will and/or Rowan would have the power of the throne, and NOT a stepmother queen. So really, it's not at all unreasonable to think Kennreth's abilities represent his power as the High King alone, and having nothing to do with the knightly quests he and Linden apparently undertook in younger days, nor that anyone who's not the High King would NOT have such abilities.
It seems that Eldraine runs on a "divine merit system" and not hereditary. Algenus and Linden (both born in the peasant class) where picked by the Questing Beast to go on the High Quest to gain knighthood of the 5 courts and implies that Rowan and Will (as well as Hazel and Erec) would need to be picked by the beast as well. Linden also mentions the last rulers abused thier rule privilege and thats the reason they lost power.
Funny enough its bright up by the people if she is up to ruling while the king is missing even thought most people have 1 knighthood and Linden had 4 knighthoods.
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Spoiler EditorToday Mark talks about how the set was structured, along with a lot of cycles.
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The only cons is there’s no way they are making/reprinting all 15 gods probably just the ones that would be in the underworld realm with Erebos
Presumably because WOTC feel that they must create more powerful black female characters with only positive White qualities (purity, nobility, steadfastness, courage, etc) in order to subvert the intersectional power dynamics and overthrow the cis-normative white supremacist patriarchy, or something like that.
-- The Gatewatch
And it helps with representation if people actually want the diversely represented cards in their decks.
Can we not? Can we just not? Let’s just talk about the card and not about politics when something other than a white male is depicted in the card art for once please?
Anyway, now that I’m looking closer at the art on her card I wonder what’s up wit all the circles?
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Sheesh, could you troll any more obviously? Rhetorical as I’m sure you can. She’s part of a cycle, none of the other cards are five color.
but storywise this doesnt fit, right ?
i mean the king is also white with 5 color abilities to mirror his 5 knighthoods. i get that they dont want to make her a cheap copy. so why not make her a 4 color creature instead (like a new atraxa). i am sure they got plenty other legends in the story to fill the role for the white card in the cycle
Why is everyone mentioning her "needing" to be four colors? Isn't she quite literally the queen of the White Court of Ardenvale, as opposed to the
Black Court of Lochthwain, the Blue Court of Vantress, the Green Court of Garenbrig, and the Red Court of Embereth? So like... she actually represents the monarchy in control of the literally-white-mana-associated court of loyalty within the feudal structure of Eldraine. Why would she be four colors?
In the book, whilst questing in their youth, Kennreth and Linden sought to acquire knighthoods in all 5 kingdoms. Kennreth achieved this. Linden only got 4. For Kennreth this is reflected in his card having abilities of all 5 colors. People just want to see such threads carried all the way through.
Ah, okay. That makes some sense, I suppose.
That being said, is that what the five color-activated abilities on Kennreth for sure represent? Or is that simply supposition?
Because--without reading the novel, granted--it makes 100% perfect sense that the High King of the realms has those five different color-based abilities simply because he is the monarch in control of all five mana-color-based Courts of Eldraine. As in, he quite literally has the political authority over and the power to command the use of all five courts of the realm with his word alone by virtue of being the High King, and those activated abilities represent his bringing to bear the power of a given court and its associated virtue (so loyalty for the white court, knowledge for blue, persistence for black, courage for red, and strength for the green court).
Not because he's undergone all the trials, but simply due to his political position. If the king of another court was the High King, I suspect they, too, would have five colored abilities to represent that authority over the five courts of Eldraine feudalism.
Linden is his wife... sssssoooooooooo.......... yes?
Being his wife doesn't necessarily give her the authority of the High King. Really depends on the laws of the land, so it can't be assumed the wife of the High King has the same authority over the five courts as the High King.
oh that's a shame a missed opportunity of a new 4 color legend maybe in the future of a return or supplament set or commander we will see her as a 4 color
It still makes her Queen of the High Court. It also means he is king, both of the High Court and Ardenvale(Hence why he is monowhite with 5 activated abilities not 5 color) Thus, hypothetically, she would have higher authority than the rulership of the other four courts. She could have had either design and it be an accurate portrayal of her character. They wanted her to fit into the ruler cycle and made Kennreth special because he was the BaB. The honest shame is that they didn't put some of the more minor characters on the uncommon legends. I.E. Syr Cato for the White uncommon Knight.
BTW for those who don't mind spoilers or don't intend to read the book you can find a pretty good summary here. (from this guys point of view the book isn't that much more worth a read than the WAR book was.)
Linden's sword has some visual elements that also remind me of Elspeth's sword. Two white lights in the hilt..
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This may come as a shock, but a queen, even the highest queen in a realm, often did NOT have all the powers of the king, especially if the king had a living oldest heir (in the real world usually male heir), and especially if she was not the blood mother of the heir(s). Such a queen would act, at best, as a regent, and answerable to the Lords and to the Crown Prince, without anything near the full powers of the monarchy herself. This is not always the case, but often enough. And we do not know what the laws and courtly rules of Eldraine are, so we still cannot say that Linden herself had the same power over the other Courts of Eldraine, simply because she's the High King's wife.
In a huge number of societies, Will and/or Rowan would have the power of the throne, and NOT a stepmother queen. So really, it's not at all unreasonable to think Kennreth's abilities represent his power as the High King alone, and having nothing to do with the knightly quests he and Linden apparently undertook in younger days, nor that anyone who's not the High King would NOT have such abilities.
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It seems that Eldraine runs on a "divine merit system" and not hereditary. Algenus and Linden (both born in the peasant class) where picked by the Questing Beast to go on the High Quest to gain knighthood of the 5 courts and implies that Rowan and Will (as well as Hazel and Erec) would need to be picked by the beast as well. Linden also mentions the last rulers abused thier rule privilege and thats the reason they lost power.
Funny enough its bright up by the people if she is up to ruling while the king is missing even thought most people have 1 knighthood and Linden had 4 knighthoods.
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