MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I haven't really been loving most of the spoiled cards thus far, at least in regards to the heavy-handed references, but this one is definitely a big win. Fun, flavorful, and might even be somewhat useful.
Is white becoming secondary/tertiary in random effects?
Almost certainly not. The randomness is the red part of the card. If any color would get randomness as part of their pie it certainly wouldn’t be the color all about order. Green would likely be the next choice.
Oh the world will sing of an English King
A thousand years from now
And not because he passed some laws
Or had that lofty brow
While bonny good King Richard leads
The great crusade he's on
We'll all have to slave away
For that good-for-nothin' John!
Incredible as he is inept
Whenever the history books are kept
They'll call him the phony king of England
A pox on the phony king of England!
He sits alone on a giant throne
Pretendin' he's the king
A little tyke who's rather like
A puppet on a string
And he throws an angry tantrum
If he cannot have his way...
And then he calls for Mum
While he's suckin' his thumb
You see, he doesn't want to play
Too late to be known as John the First
He's sure to be known as John the worst
A pox on that phony king of England!
Lay that country on me, babe!
While he taxes us to pieces
And he robs us of our bread
King Richard's crown keeps slippin' down
Around that pointed head
Ah! But while there is a merry man
In Robin's wily pack
We'll find a way to make him pay
And steal our money back
A minute before he knows we're there...
The breezy and uneasy king of England
The snivellin', grovellin'
Measly, weasely
Blabberin', jabberin'
Gibberin', gabberin'
Blunderin', plunderin'
Wheelin', dealin'
Prince John, that phony king of England
Yeah!
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I like it, but I have to say I don't like that they have to add Haste in the characteristics of each token. Couldn't it just say:
create a red and white creature tokens with those characteristics and haste, or ...with haste and those characteristics?
That was my thought as well. It could have even been "Creature tokens you control have haste." for a little more utility with the Populate Commander deck that just came out. Would have left space for each token to have other keywords instead.
Already annoying to play with these random effects in paper, so this will just be another annoying card that will stretch time and let players ask for dice (and cheat with the dice).
This random effect is kind of interesting in that each token is similarly powerful, meaning the decks that want this don't have to worry much about power discrepancy. That said, I think the base cost (4 mana) is too high for this effect.
This random effect is kind of interesting in that each token is similarly powerful, meaning the decks that want this don't have to worry much about power discrepancy. That said, I think the base cost (4 mana) is too high for this effect.
It might be too slow for constructed--we'll see--but I don't think it could be cheaper and make those tokens. Bitterblossomis AMAZING and only makes 1/1's (granted they have flying), but they don't have haste and cost you life every turn.
So, unless I'm thinking of this card wrong, it's only a turn slower than Bitterblossom, at least in terms of how many tokens you're able to attack with from the card, correct? Like a turn 2 Bitterblossom gets you your first attacker on turn 4, and this gets your first attack on turn 5. So at least on that metric, this card definitely seems interesting. At the very least, it might be one of the best "random" cards I've can remember seeing.
@TheOnlyOneNumber: I get how you cheat with coins, but assuming it rolls over a few times, how do you cheat with (non-loaded) dice?
I think I can figure out how to cheat with fair dice.
Ask for a d20 since those are common in MTG environments. Get one. Find that 20 is not divisible by 3, figure you need the life, then assign 7 die numbers to the 3/1 and 2/1 and only 6 die numbers to the 1/2. Roll the die a bunch of times and watch as people eventually catch on that you don't get 1/2's as often.
@TheOnlyOneNumber: I get how you cheat with coins, but assuming it rolls over a few times, how do you cheat with (non-loaded) dice?
I think I can figure out how to cheat with fair dice.
Ask for a d20 since those are common in MTG environments. Get one. Find that 20 is not divisible by 3, figure you need the life, then assign 7 die numbers to the 3/1 and 2/1 and only 6 die numbers to the 1/2. Roll the die a bunch of times and watch as people eventually catch on that you don't get 1/2's as often.
I think most opponents will insist on a D6 with 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 for the respective modes.
A roulette wheel of which type of token you get but they all have a haste ability
Bit weird the Cleric token has worse defensive stats than the Rogue but whatever.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Exactly. Nailed it.
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
Pretty nice to have a no-cost (once cast) token generator which actually produces useful tokens. Goes pretty nicely with Purphoros, God of the Forge.
Almost certainly not. The randomness is the red part of the card. If any color would get randomness as part of their pie it certainly wouldn’t be the color all about order. Green would likely be the next choice.
A thousand years from now
And not because he passed some laws
Or had that lofty brow
While bonny good King Richard leads
The great crusade he's on
We'll all have to slave away
For that good-for-nothin' John!
Incredible as he is inept
Whenever the history books are kept
They'll call him the phony king of England
A pox on the phony king of England!
He sits alone on a giant throne
Pretendin' he's the king
A little tyke who's rather like
A puppet on a string
And he throws an angry tantrum
If he cannot have his way...
And then he calls for Mum
While he's suckin' his thumb
You see, he doesn't want to play
Too late to be known as John the First
He's sure to be known as John the worst
A pox on that phony king of England!
Lay that country on me, babe!
While he taxes us to pieces
And he robs us of our bread
King Richard's crown keeps slippin' down
Around that pointed head
Ah! But while there is a merry man
In Robin's wily pack
We'll find a way to make him pay
And steal our money back
A minute before he knows we're there...
Ol' Rob'll snatch his underwear
The breezy and uneasy king of England
The snivellin', grovellin'
Measly, weasely
Blabberin', jabberin'
Gibberin', gabberin'
Blunderin', plunderin'
Wheelin', dealin'
Prince John, that phony king of England
Yeah!
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Staffcreate a red and white creature tokens with those characteristics and haste, or ...with haste and those characteristics?
That was my thought as well. It could have even been "Creature tokens you control have haste." for a little more utility with the Populate Commander deck that just came out. Would have left space for each token to have other keywords instead.
Archatmos
Excellion
Fracture: Israfiel (WBR), Wujal (URG), Valedon (GUB), Amduat (BGW), Paladris (RWU)
Collision (Set Two of the Fracture Block)
Quest for the Forsaken (Set Two of the Excellion Block)
Katingal: Plane of Chains
Already annoying to play with these random effects in paper, so this will just be another annoying card that will stretch time and let players ask for dice (and cheat with the dice).
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StaffIt might be too slow for constructed--we'll see--but I don't think it could be cheaper and make those tokens. Bitterblossomis AMAZING and only makes 1/1's (granted they have flying), but they don't have haste and cost you life every turn.
Yea I was thinking that actually I am using the new populate deck this will fit nicely there I just need one of each then I can start populating
I think I can figure out how to cheat with fair dice.
Ask for a d20 since those are common in MTG environments. Get one. Find that 20 is not divisible by 3, figure you need the life, then assign 7 die numbers to the 3/1 and 2/1 and only 6 die numbers to the 1/2. Roll the die a bunch of times and watch as people eventually catch on that you don't get 1/2's as often.
I think most opponents will insist on a D6 with 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 for the respective modes.
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