Interesting design. I love how the 3 abilities interact with each other. Will definitely want one for artifact cube... all abilities have the word
Artifact in them!!!
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Am I reading this right? The +1 is usually just Beast Within. That's pretty ridiculous for UG, the color combo that is the utter worst at removal.
Whaaaa? Blue and green are THE two colors of polymorphing effects. Virtually every card in Magic that transforms a card from what it is into a (usually vanilla) creature of some sort is either blue, green, or blue/green. Additionally, blue is the primary color of turning artifacts into creatures, including doing so to remove its text box to shut it off. While green is one of the major artifact-hate colors, along with red. Usually, the creatures blue or green turn a card into is a 1/1 (like a frog) or a 3/3. The +1 uptick effect on Oko is about as quintessential a UG form of effect as you can get for removal.
Am I the only one around here wondering why his name literally means "eye" in most Slavic languages (and esperanto)? I thought Ravnica was the supposed Slavic plane.
Am I reading this right? The +1 is usually just Beast Within. That's pretty ridiculous for UG, the color combo that is the utter worst at removal.
Whaaaa? Blue and green are THE two colors of polymorphing effects. Virtually every card in Magic that transforms a card from what it is into a (usually vanilla) creature of some sort is either blue, green, or blue/green. Additionally, blue is the primary color of turning artifacts into creatures, including doing so to remove its text box to shut it off. While green is one of the major artifact-hate colors, along with red. Usually, the creatures blue or green turn a card into is a 1/1 (like a frog) or a 3/3. The +1 uptick effect on Oko is about as quintessential a UG form of effect as you can get for removal.
I'm not arguing that the color pie is being broken or anything. I'm saying that white, black, and red do a MUCH better job killing creatures. Oko's +1 is giving me repeatable removal which is VERY uncharacteristic of UG. Also, UG is hands down the weakest color pair in cube so this will likely find a home there.
Am I the only one around here wondering why his name literally means "eye" in most Slavic languages (and esperanto)? I thought Ravnica was the supposed Slavic plane.
It's also Japanese for "fool", or "indecent", or "indelicate", or slang for "angry". There are also quite a few South American languages associated with the Amazon river region where "oko" means "water". And in one Indo-European language it means "fruit". So I'm not sure the name coincidentally sharing similar roots to Ravnica's language roots for one meaning, while having quite a few other meanings as well, is indicative of much.
We also don't know what plane Oko comes from. The Forbes article implies he's not from Eldraine.
I'm not arguing that the color pie is being broken or anything. I'm saying that white, black, and red do a MUCH better job killing creatures. Oko's +1 is giving me repeatable removal which is VERY uncharacteristic of UG. Also, UG is hands down the weakest color pair in cube so this will likely find a home there.
It's not killing them, though. It's turning them into 3/3 creatures. Is that useful? Abso-frigging-lutely. It's not removal, however, it's debuffing something; if a card turned creatures' activated and passive abilities off but left them able to attack and block, that isn't removal, either. You still have a 3/3 creature to deal with, and that's not just some inconsequential threat much of the time. 3/3 vanilla creatures are right where vanilla creatures become large enough to matter.
Am I the only one around here wondering why his name literally means "eye" in most Slavic languages (and esperanto)? I thought Ravnica was the supposed Slavic plane.
It's also Japanese for "fool", or "indecent", or "indelicate", or slang for "angry". There are also quite a few South American languages associated with the Amazon river region where "oko" means "water". And in one Indo-European language it means "fruit". So I'm not sure the name coincidentally sharing similar roots to Ravnica's language roots for one meaning, while having quite a few other meanings as well, is indicative of much.
We also don't know what plane Oko comes from. The Forbes article implies he's not from Eldraine.
Would be sick if he was a hobgoblin or something from Lorwyn!
Am I the only one around here wondering why his name literally means "eye" in most Slavic languages (and esperanto)? I thought Ravnica was the supposed Slavic plane.
It's also Japanese for "fool", or "indecent", or "indelicate", or slang for "angry". There are also quite a few South American languages associated with the Amazon river region where "oko" means "water". And in one Indo-European language it means "fruit". So I'm not sure the name coincidentally sharing similar roots to Ravnica's language roots for one meaning, while having quite a few other meanings as well, is indicative of much.
We also don't know what plane Oko comes from. The Forbes article implies he's not from Eldraine.
Would be sick if he was a hobgoblin or something from Lorwyn!
Oko looks too Asiatic to be from Lorwyn--I've already compared him to Japanese Yosei ("fairies"), and his backstory fits with an Asia-influenced culture that values harmony over individuality. He might be from Japanese Kaiju World or somewhere like that.
With Food being a known quantity his -5 seems kind of odd. Given he has pretty potent removal of a sort though it seems worthwhile just for that alone. Losing all abilities is pretty harsh, and most creatures you'd target with that are probably not gaining stats to become a 3/3.
Now that we have Food, Clues, and Traps...when do we get Mystery World? Complete with masked villains and meddling kids?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I like his ablilites .. Pretty fun and strong walker. But am I the only one who's wondering why he's blue/GREEN????! Hello Fea tribal called they would like the only fae walker to fit into B/U like all the other fairies . no? Ok then dam. Got all pumped for my tribal theme deck to get its first walker and this happens. Tho I guess it makes a little sense lore wise as he hates tyrants and the sheep who follow them.
I like his ablilites .. Pretty fun and strong walker. But am I the only one who's wondering why he's blue/GREEN????! Hello Fea tribal called they would like the only fae walker to fit into B/U like all the other fairies . no? Ok then dam. Got all pumped for my tribal theme deck to get its first walker and this happens. Tho I guess it makes a little sense lore wise as he hates tyrants and the sheep who follow them.
As far as I can tell, Oko is not like the other (European-influenced) fairies in MTG. He looks Asian-influenced, and his card abilities look green enough to me.
I like his ablilites .. Pretty fun and strong walker. But am I the only one who's wondering why he's blue/GREEN????! Hello Fea tribal called they would like the only fae walker to fit into B/U like all the other fairies . no? Ok then dam. Got all pumped for my tribal theme deck to get its first walker and this happens. Tho I guess it makes a little sense lore wise as he hates tyrants and the sheep who follow them.
As far as I can tell, Oko is not like the other (European-influenced) fairies in MTG. He looks Asian-influenced, and his card abilities look green enough to me.
Well he takes a lot of inspiration from the Goblin-King (labirinth) and characters from classical fairytales and stories that do mischiefs.
As one of the first cards / characters spoiled, I'm a little disappointed the Shakespearean threads didn't pan out. Maybe Wizards will circle back around to that when we visit Oko's home plane, assuming that set's theme isn't chiseled man-chests (it's been done).
Given that isn’t really a theme Magic would do that’s fine. And it’s possible he isn’t meant to really be a Shakespeare reference. Trickster fairy is... pretty much standard fairy.
They stretched themselves a little thin with a pastiche of fully fairy tales and fully Arthurian world, felt weird and neither got totally developed (although that can be fixed with returns to the plane). So it would have been really hard to add Shakespearean elements into the mix. But if they had done that specifically with Oko, I agree that'd make him a more satisfying character.
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Artifact in them!!!
Whaaaa? Blue and green are THE two colors of polymorphing effects. Virtually every card in Magic that transforms a card from what it is into a (usually vanilla) creature of some sort is either blue, green, or blue/green. Additionally, blue is the primary color of turning artifacts into creatures, including doing so to remove its text box to shut it off. While green is one of the major artifact-hate colors, along with red. Usually, the creatures blue or green turn a card into is a 1/1 (like a frog) or a 3/3. The +1 uptick effect on Oko is about as quintessential a UG form of effect as you can get for removal.
It's also Japanese for "fool", or "indecent", or "indelicate", or slang for "angry". There are also quite a few South American languages associated with the Amazon river region where "oko" means "water". And in one Indo-European language it means "fruit". So I'm not sure the name coincidentally sharing similar roots to Ravnica's language roots for one meaning, while having quite a few other meanings as well, is indicative of much.
We also don't know what plane Oko comes from. The Forbes article implies he's not from Eldraine.
It's not killing them, though. It's turning them into 3/3 creatures. Is that useful? Abso-frigging-lutely. It's not removal, however, it's debuffing something; if a card turned creatures' activated and passive abilities off but left them able to attack and block, that isn't removal, either. You still have a 3/3 creature to deal with, and that's not just some inconsequential threat much of the time. 3/3 vanilla creatures are right where vanilla creatures become large enough to matter.
Would be sick if he was a hobgoblin or something from Lorwyn!
Oko looks too Asiatic to be from Lorwyn--I've already compared him to Japanese Yosei ("fairies"), and his backstory fits with an Asia-influenced culture that values harmony over individuality. He might be from Japanese Kaiju World or somewhere like that.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Bahahahaha! Bring back Mowu for that too so we have a legendary hound in the set too!
Must find my Mask of Avacyn too...
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
As far as I can tell, Oko is not like the other (European-influenced) fairies in MTG. He looks Asian-influenced, and his card abilities look green enough to me.
Well he takes a lot of inspiration from the Goblin-King (labirinth) and characters from classical fairytales and stories that do mischiefs.
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