MTG Salvation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJUEH4aA_DM

Facedwn for what!

As of this posting Wizards hasn't posted the article with the list that can be perused at your leisure.

Edit: Here it is. It just hadn't made it to the main page of the mothership yet

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/decks-commander-2019-edition-2019-08-05

Do we have info on what Mire in Misery and Voice of Many are yet?

I like it! In addition to morph creatures it also create an army via various manifest effects.

That said, does Echoing Truth bounce morphed creatures? WotC states that morphed creatures don't have names therefore not considered having the same name.

I think Echoing Truth in there not to bounce your morph creatures, but to play against the populate deck

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Do we have info on what Mire in Misery and Voice of Many are yet?

I like it! In addition to morph creatures it also create an army via various manifest effects.

That said, does Echoing Truth bounce morphed creatures? WotC states that morphed creatures don't have names therefore not considered having the same name.

I count three cards in the new cards portion that we haven't seen yet. Thought Sponge can be found here. The two you mentioned and Road of Return are not out. At least not on this site.

edit: Okay Road of Return has been spoiled I just wasn't paying attention to possible translations.

Edit something nice the video showed was that Sakura-Tribe Elder is getting some nice new art.

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Edit something nice the video showed was that Sakura-Tribe Elder is getting some nice new art.

I've personally always hated that FNM promo art; I prefer the original art.

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I've personally always hated that FNM promo art; I prefer the original art.

Didn't know that that art was already a thing. That said I like this art better. It actually looks like a snake person rather than some mutated Quasimoto-lookin' muther****er.

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I count three cards in the new cards portion that we haven't seen yet. Thought Sponge can be found here. The two you mentioned and Road of Return are not out. At least not on this site.

I am fairly sure that Road of Return was translated Path of Return initially, and its the GG card that regrows a permanent or gets your commander to your hand from the command zone

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I am fairly sure that Road of Return was translated Path of Return initially, and its the GG card that regrows a permanent or gets your commander to your hand from the command zone

Yeah that makes sense. Thank you.

WHY IS Ixidor, Reality Sculptor NOT ON THAT LIST!!!

But fantastic deck notheless

Wonder why Brine Elemental wasn't included.

They've gotta leave things out to be upgraded. I also don't imagine they want to encourage pickles locking.

Yawn. Hard pass.

Looks stronger than we're use to but the reprints are mediocre at best. Theres nothing here that needed to be reprinted, and the new cards just arent that interesting to warrant the price tag.

The things that needed to happen here just didnt. I dont want to play morph which is also poorly supported, i dont want to get it for reprints, and i certainly dont want to tweak it into something viable somewhat viable.

Next.

Bulk reprints up the butt. Feels bad man.

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Wonder why Brine Elemental wasn't included.

I think they are too scared to put in the one sided stasis lock with Vesuvan Shapeshifter and brine elemental

At this point I'm going to assume that Mire in Misery and Voice of Many are lower rarity cards that will show up in other decks. My guess is we'll get Mire on Madness day and Voice on Populate day.

Always felt like this was going to be one of the more lackluster decks of this set. Morph is just not that interesting and is poorly supported despite having an entire block, for some reason, dedicated to it and its sister mechanics. The most interesting take on the mechanic (manifest) was completely wasted by not letting you flip over and cast the manifested instants and sorceries. Megamorph was not only the name of a Yugioh card, but literally the dumbest and least interesting direction to go with the mechanic. Individually, morph doesn't work well with a regular playgroup outside of a few specific cards simply because Willbender stops being a good trick after everyone knows you only run the one morph card. They did a pretty piss poor job of making people want to run morph and the much requested morph deck didn't fix the issues for those that did. The crap reprints don't help either.

Instead of the new Vampire guy, I would have liked a Manifest Commander.

@Creedmoor
Yeah, same. Would’ve liked to see a Rakshasa as one of the face cards as well but I guess not.

So the manabase is better than last years, but I never understand why they keep giving us crap like Thornwood Falls. There’s so much with a conditional untap for cheap, even just 2-3 more would mean the world.

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So the manabase is better than last years, but I never understand why they keep giving us crap like Thornwood Falls. There’s so much with a conditional untap for cheap, even just 2-3 more would mean the world.

It's not hard to figure out. Thornwood Falls adds essentially 0 to the deck's value, allowing them to allot that elsewhere, whereas any of the rare conditionally untapped lands add some. My argument would not be to add rare lands, but instead to design more common/uncommon level lands that aren't meant to be valuable. They are never going to run out of places to reprint lands like that.

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So the manabase is better than last years, but I never understand why they keep giving us crap like Thornwood Falls. There’s so much with a conditional untap for cheap, even just 2-3 more would mean the world.

It's not hard to figure out. Thornwood Falls adds essentially 0 to the deck's value, allowing them to allot that elsewhere, whereas any of the rare conditionally untapped lands add some. My argument would not be to add rare lands, but instead to design more common/uncommon level lands that aren't meant to be valuable. They are never going to run out of places to reprint lands like that.

Give us the Tainted cycle of cards then. Tainted Wood and Tainted Isle needs more love.

There are fetchable duals in these. Which is more love than the mana bases have gotten in all of the previous commander precons combined.

What fetchable duals, did I miss something?

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What fetchable duals, did I miss something?

• Sunken Hollow
  
• Prairie stream
  
• Cinder glade

So my question is... how do you win with it? Just go wide and then pump your creatures? I was hoping they would provide some more win conditions for us in Morph and Manifest. I guess the Amalgam kind of works well.