"Can you give us any hints about upcoming Judge promos?
We are pleased to announce that the next four judge foils are going to be Chalice of the Void, Monastery Mentor, Reflecting Pool, and Yuriko, the Tiger’s Shadow – and all will be receiving new artwork!"
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Original pristine Yuriko is like $14-$16 a pop. That’s too much for some?
Um, yeah dude, that's a lot to spend on one piece of cardboard. We don't all have $10,000 suits and four Underground Seas.
I think long and hard about buying any card over $1. Most of the time I don't do it.
Ok, you’ve seemingly spent quite a bit of time (and maybe money) picking a collectible hobby to follow and play that is primarily printed on “pieces of cardboard”.
Ok, you’ve seemingly spent quite a bit of time (and maybe money) picking a collectible hobby to follow and play that is primarily printed on “pieces of cardboard”.
I have spent a lot of money over a looooooong time, but I also work for minimum wage, and $14 just is a lot to pay for a card. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think it's crazy to not consider that an expensive card (though obviously there are much more expensive ones).
I understand that I'm in a different class from most Magic players though-- it's a rich kid's game, and certainly those interested in judge foils tend to be pretty well off. But poor people play too-- probably more than you think.
This probably isn't the place for this kind of discussion anyway. I apologize if I was uncivil.
Looks like the Judge Program will be a certification company and wotc will just sell the promos to this company (you know they don't want to pay taxes and legal duties over the judges lol)
I was wondering when Monastery Mentor was finally gonna get a reprint.
A fifth printing of Chalice seems a bit excessive, but hey, they're still expensive.
Reflecting Pool was pretty unexpected.
Um, yeah dude, that's a lot to spend on one piece of cardboard. We don't all have $10,000 suits and four Underground Seas.
I think long and hard about buying any card over $1. Most of the time I don't do it.
I mean, I have four Underground Seas, and yet I don't have $10,000 suits and I work for close to minimum wage. $15 on a Magic card doesn't sound too bad to me; it's almost as if "expensive" is a subjective definition based on personal preferences and income?
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
I was wondering when Monastery Mentor was finally gonna get a reprint.
A fifth printing of Chalice seems a bit excessive, but hey, they're still expensive.
Reflecting Pool was pretty unexpected.
Um, yeah dude, that's a lot to spend on one piece of cardboard. We don't all have $10,000 suits and four Underground Seas.
I think long and hard about buying any card over $1. Most of the time I don't do it.
I mean, I have four Underground Seas, and yet I don't have $10,000 suits and I work for close to minimum wage. $15 on a Magic card doesn't sound too bad to me; it's almost as if "expensive" is a subjective definition based on personal preferences and income?
A judge promo reprint of Chalice isn’t gonna do anything to drop its price
Per Gavin Verhey on twitter, the Yuriko will be foil with the original art, and the Chalice is Seb McKinnon's art. Pool is by Peter Mohrbacher. Both of those are from MTGO. Mentor is Anastasia Ovchinnikova, with completely new art, I believe.
Besat part, there will be yearly dues starting at $100 and going up from there.
This is honestly a much better way to get WotC (or other game companies) to pay their judges instead of just hoping they'll do it. It should also reduce any sort of favoritism or "Old Boys' Club" type of thing that might exist (not saying there is, I don't know enough about the current judge program to say one way or the other.) like it exists/existed in other games' judging programs.
I especially like that it won't just be WotC, currently they're trying to get Asmodee and Keyforge into this as well. That might lead to X-Wing and Destiny being included, and other companies getting on board as well, some of which could use a real judge program.
Regardless, it's not the "nightmare" that certain alarmists out there are painting it to be. This type of thing works for companies, and if you want an actual path towards judging becoming a career, this is better than just taking a bunch of online tests and hoping someone is around to train you further.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Besat part, there will be yearly dues starting at $100 and going up from there.
This is honestly a much better way to get WotC (or other game companies) to pay their judges instead of just hoping they'll do it. It should also reduce any sort of favoritism or "Old Boys' Club" type of thing that might exist (not saying there is, I don't know enough about the current judge program to say one way or the other.) like it exists/existed in other games' judging programs.
To my understanding, judges will not be paid by this program. They have to pay fees (100$/year at L1, 200$/year at L2 and so forth) and they are only rewarded with foil promos. It is still up to the tournament organizer to pay their judges, and sometimes the pay is next to nothing. This doesn't really look like an improvement to me, at least at first glance.
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This is honestly a much better way to get WotC (or other game companies) to pay their judges instead of just hoping they'll do it. It should also reduce any sort of favoritism or "Old Boys' Club" type of thing that might exist (not saying there is, I don't know enough about the current judge program to say one way or the other.) like it exists/existed in other games' judging programs.
To my understanding, judges will not be paid by this program. They have to pay fees (100$/year at L1, 200$/year at L2 and so forth) and they are only rewarded with foil promos. It is still up to the tournament organizer to pay their judges, and sometimes the pay is next to nothing. This doesn't really look like an improvement to me, at least at first glance.
And as I understand it, the current program is mostly L1s at the LGS level, with little opportunity to advance further because there aren't enough L2s to properly mentor them. Am I wrong? This might, hopefully, change that.
I'm not saying the judges will be paid by the program. Sorry if I implied that somehow. But a system like this should lead to alternative ways to improve your skills and become more valuable to your LGS or the judge program as a whole. Could lead to your LGS paying you for your time, at the very least.
This is not much different than any other certification programs for other careers. Take for example Massage Therapy (mostly because I am familiar with it). There are two companies that provide certifications and insurance that several states require to practice. You have to pay for the membership it doesn’t get you a job, but helps to advance your career. If you think of this program in that same manor, this is a very good thing for the judging industry.
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"Can you give us any hints about upcoming Judge promos?
We are pleased to announce that the next four judge foils are going to be Chalice of the Void, Monastery Mentor, Reflecting Pool, and Yuriko, the Tiger’s Shadow – and all will be receiving new artwork!"
I'm currently looking for:
80 UltraPro Sorin Markov Sleeves
80 UltraPro Sarkhan the Mad SleevesGot em'80 UltraPro Ajani Vengeant Sleeves
80 UltraPro Nicol Bolas Sleeves (Conflux)
Wonder if it will have her mask in this one.
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Bit?
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Um, yeah dude, that's a lot to spend on one piece of cardboard. We don't all have $10,000 suits and four Underground Seas.
I think long and hard about buying any card over $1. Most of the time I don't do it.
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My 1570 card cube (no longer updated)
My 415 Peasant+ Artifact and Enchantment Cube
Ever-Expanding "Just throw it in" cube.
Ok, you’ve seemingly spent quite a bit of time (and maybe money) picking a collectible hobby to follow and play that is primarily printed on “pieces of cardboard”.
I gave the one I had to my friend.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
I have spent a lot of money over a looooooong time, but I also work for minimum wage, and $14 just is a lot to pay for a card. I'm not trying to be a jerk, I just think it's crazy to not consider that an expensive card (though obviously there are much more expensive ones).
I understand that I'm in a different class from most Magic players though-- it's a rich kid's game, and certainly those interested in judge foils tend to be pretty well off. But poor people play too-- probably more than you think.
This probably isn't the place for this kind of discussion anyway. I apologize if I was uncivil.
Low-power cube enthusiast!
My 1570 card cube (no longer updated)
My 415 Peasant+ Artifact and Enchantment Cube
Ever-Expanding "Just throw it in" cube.
https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2019/07/judges-announce-new-judge-academy-will-organize-independent-from-wizards-of-the-coast/
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
A fifth printing of Chalice seems a bit excessive, but hey, they're still expensive.
Reflecting Pool was pretty unexpected.
I mean, I have four Underground Seas, and yet I don't have $10,000 suits and I work for close to minimum wage. $15 on a Magic card doesn't sound too bad to me; it's almost as if "expensive" is a subjective definition based on personal preferences and income?
A judge promo reprint of Chalice isn’t gonna do anything to drop its price
Besat part, there will be yearly dues starting at $100 and going up from there.
This is honestly a much better way to get WotC (or other game companies) to pay their judges instead of just hoping they'll do it. It should also reduce any sort of favoritism or "Old Boys' Club" type of thing that might exist (not saying there is, I don't know enough about the current judge program to say one way or the other.) like it exists/existed in other games' judging programs.
I especially like that it won't just be WotC, currently they're trying to get Asmodee and Keyforge into this as well. That might lead to X-Wing and Destiny being included, and other companies getting on board as well, some of which could use a real judge program.
Regardless, it's not the "nightmare" that certain alarmists out there are painting it to be. This type of thing works for companies, and if you want an actual path towards judging becoming a career, this is better than just taking a bunch of online tests and hoping someone is around to train you further.
I never said it would
To my understanding, judges will not be paid by this program. They have to pay fees (100$/year at L1, 200$/year at L2 and so forth) and they are only rewarded with foil promos. It is still up to the tournament organizer to pay their judges, and sometimes the pay is next to nothing. This doesn't really look like an improvement to me, at least at first glance.
And as I understand it, the current program is mostly L1s at the LGS level, with little opportunity to advance further because there aren't enough L2s to properly mentor them. Am I wrong? This might, hopefully, change that.
I'm not saying the judges will be paid by the program. Sorry if I implied that somehow. But a system like this should lead to alternative ways to improve your skills and become more valuable to your LGS or the judge program as a whole. Could lead to your LGS paying you for your time, at the very least.