My first thought was "wow, this is horrible. In a 1- or 2-color deck, it's just an ordinary land that you can't play on turn 1 or 2. In a deck with 4 or 5 colors, you don't want to sacrifice two dual lands for a land that can only provide one color at a time."
My next thought was "hmm, so now I can play Chainwhirler, Benalish Champion and Steel Leaf Champion in the same deck ..."
Wow this is powerful. Being able to avoid the blowout of field of ruin, ghost quarter etc etc is huge.
This is surprisingly close to a strictly better lotus vale. Sure it enters tapped but at the same time the 2 lands you sac don't have to be tapped and of course the hexproof part is huge. Does seem like it's just a better option.
I might be wrong, but this card seems to lack any text for what would happen if you are unable to sacrifice two lands ('if you do not, sacrifice this permanent'), nor is it worded as an additional cost or some such. Does that mean that if you play this as your first land, you wouldn't loose any lands at all?
Lotus Vale is not a card I expected to see in Standard/Modern, especially not a near-strictly-better version. I say near because while this doesn't enter untapped, you can sacrifice tapped lands to it and it is protected from removal. Seems decent, and a strong ramping tool for a mono-colored deck that can afford to take a turn off from its land drops.
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I might be wrong, but this card seems to lack any text for what would happen if you are unable to sacrifice two lands ('if you do not, sacrifice this permanent'), nor is it worded as an additional cost or some such. Does that mean that if you play this as your first land, you wouldn't loose any lands at all?
That's usually a bad idea; this is, after all, itself a land, so you must sacrifice it if you don't have at least two other lands to sacrifice (because effects always do as much as they can).
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I might be wrong, but this card seems to lack any text for what would happen if you are unable to sacrifice two lands ('if you do not, sacrifice this permanent'), nor is it worded as an additional cost or some such. Does that mean that if you play this as your first land, you wouldn't loose any lands at all?
Nope, you would have to sacrifice It. It enters, asks for the sacrifice, does it to self being the only land available.
Do not know how I feel about this one. Could be interesting in the kind of land sacrifice decks I like but might set you back too far even in EDH. Definitely don't see this being that good in limited.
I might be wrong, but this card seems to lack any text for what would happen if you are unable to sacrifice two lands ('if you do not, sacrifice this permanent'), nor is it worded as an additional cost or some such. Does that mean that if you play this as your first land, you wouldn't loose any lands at all?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Some hoops to jump through for the first land with hexproof.
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
John Avon land art
Lotus theme
A new version of Lotus Vale
First instance of Hexproof on a Land (Arixmethes should have had Hexproof damn it)
Just awesome all around, I can't wait to obtain this too! MAN THIS SET IS DELIVERING!
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
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My next thought was "hmm, so now I can play Chainwhirler, Benalish Champion and Steel Leaf Champion in the same deck ..."
My final thought: "Nah, this is awful."
funnily, it can pay to disallow, repudiate, stifle or trickbind itself t1. "any one" color impeding voidslime.oops, enters tapped
It enters tapped, so it can’t pay the cost of something that counters the sacrifice ability.
This is surprisingly close to a strictly better lotus vale. Sure it enters tapped but at the same time the 2 lands you sac don't have to be tapped and of course the hexproof part is huge. Does seem like it's just a better option.
RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
That's usually a bad idea; this is, after all, itself a land, so you must sacrifice it if you don't have at least two other lands to sacrifice (because effects always do as much as they can).
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especially in a way that could be considered better than the original Lotus Vale.
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EDH:
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Nope, you would have to sacrifice It. It enters, asks for the sacrifice, does it to self being the only land available.
Lotus Field can do some funny stuff.
Turn 1 in Modern:
Exile Simian Spirit Guide, Cast Amulet of Vigor
Lotus field, untap and float 3 mana, sac Lotus Field, cast 3 mana spell.
In Commander
Pair with Voyaging Satyr, Garruk Wildspeaker, Kiora's Follower, Thespian's Stage, Deserted Temple, Palinchron... basically any number of cards that like playing with Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx or Cabal Coffers. Turn 2 Voyaging Satyr into turn three Lotus Field gets you 5 mana on turn 3, and at least 6 mana on turn 4.
With Living Plane, you can use Torpor Orb to stop the ETB trigger.
In Standard:
Blossom Dryad
Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner
Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
Just don't play it with Yarok, the Desecrated.
If I still played Standard I would play this with Kiora to play Elder Dinosaurs.
8.RG Green Devotion Ramp/Combo 9.UR Draw Triggers 10.WUR Group stalling 11.WUR Voltron Spellslinger 12.WB Sacrificial Shenanigans
13.BR Creatureless Panharmonicon 14.BR Pingers and Eldrazi 15.URG Untapped Cascading
16.Reyhan, last of the Abzan's WUBG +1/+1 Counter Craziness 17.WUBRG Dragons aka Why did I make this?
Building: The Gitrog Monster lands, Glissa the Traitor stax, Muldrotha, the Gravetide Planeswalker Combo, Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa Clues, and Tribal Scarecrow Planeswalkers
You must sacrifice this land to itself.
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Ah, thanks. Yes, that makes a lot more sense!
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.