The set only has 15 mythic rare slots, so it would be overkill to include a whole cycle. Also, remember that the original swords were doled out in 1 or 2 per set, so there's no precedent for the whole cycle ending up in Horizons.
The set only has 15 mythic rare slots, so it would be overkill to include a whole cycle. Also, remember that the original swords were doled out in 1 or 2 per set, so there's no precedent for the whole cycle ending up in Horizons.
Yeah but the original swords were doled out over the course of 6-ish months. This cycle may not be complete for 2 more years (if they release Modern Horizons 2 next year, and Modern Horizons 3 the year after).
The set only has 15 mythic rare slots, so it would be overkill to include a whole cycle. Also, remember that the original swords were doled out in 1 or 2 per set, so there's no precedent for the whole cycle ending up in Horizons.
Yeah but the original swords were doled out over the course of 6-ish months. This cycle may not be complete for 2 more years (if they release Modern Horizons 2 next year, and Modern Horizons 3 the year after).
The first two swords where made in Darksteel (2004) while the rest of the cycle was published in the Scars of Mirrodin block (2010-2011).
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Sorry for my possible english mistakes, I'm not a native speaker.
The set only has 15 mythic rare slots, so it would be overkill to include a whole cycle. Also, remember that the original swords were doled out in 1 or 2 per set, so there's no precedent for the whole cycle ending up in Horizons.
Yeah but the original swords were doled out over the course of 6-ish months. This cycle may not be complete for 2 more years (if they release Modern Horizons 2 next year, and Modern Horizons 3 the year after).
The first two swords where made in Darksteel (2004) while the rest of the cycle was published in the Scars of Mirrodin block (2010-2011).
I like the set, just the price seems too high. I'd have sold this at 150 and printed more.
It does seem a tad bit high. They very well could and probably will print more as this set is "print to demand". I've noticed prices creeping down on booster boxes as we speak as well.
I think it's WAY overpriced. Not much here tells me this should be much more than a regular box. These pack prices are pushing prices of the singles to silly levels. At least they are coming down a bit, but false perceived scarcity will ruin this game. Charging $10-12 a pack to draft this set is really a punch in the face.
No one should be charging $10-12 per pack to draft this. $8-9 is the expected price.
But hoping boxes drop too much below $200 is foolish as they never should've been that low to begin with, considering what retailers are paying for them. This product is a nightmare for game stores that don't focus mainly on Magic. Despite being print to demand, there might be artificial rarity due to a lot of stores just not ordering much of it because it's impossible to actually make a profit on it.
I like the set, just the price seems too high. I'd have sold this at 150 and printed more.
It does seem a tad bit high. They very well could and probably will print more as this set is "print to demand". I've noticed prices creeping down on booster boxes as we speak as well.
I think it's WAY overpriced. Not much here tells me this should be much more than a regular box. These pack prices are pushing prices of the singles to silly levels. At least they are coming down a bit, but false perceived scarcity will ruin this game. Charging $10-12 a pack to draft this set is really a punch in the face.
No one should be charging $10-12 per pack to draft this. $8-9 is the expected price.
But hoping boxes drop too much below $200 is foolish as they never should've been that low to begin with, considering what retailers are paying for them. This product is a nightmare for game stores that don't focus mainly on Magic. Despite being print to demand, there might be artificial rarity due to a lot of stores just not ordering much of it because it's impossible to actually make a profit on it.
Sadly $30-$35 seems to be the norm around here.
This is Hasbro setting the secondary market. They are taking all profit away from retailers. Not a good move for anyone.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Currently Playing: Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me! Legacy: RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R RGBelcherRG WSoldier StompyW BReanimatorB EDH: BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
I like the set, just the price seems too high. I'd have sold this at 150 and printed more.
It does seem a tad bit high. They very well could and probably will print more as this set is "print to demand". I've noticed prices creeping down on booster boxes as we speak as well.
I think it's WAY overpriced. Not much here tells me this should be much more than a regular box. These pack prices are pushing prices of the singles to silly levels. At least they are coming down a bit, but false perceived scarcity will ruin this game. Charging $10-12 a pack to draft this set is really a punch in the face.
No one should be charging $10-12 per pack to draft this. $8-9 is the expected price.
But hoping boxes drop too much below $200 is foolish as they never should've been that low to begin with, considering what retailers are paying for them. This product is a nightmare for game stores that don't focus mainly on Magic. Despite being print to demand, there might be artificial rarity due to a lot of stores just not ordering much of it because it's impossible to actually make a profit on it.
Sadly $30-$35 seems to be the norm around here.
This is Hasbro setting the secondary market. They are taking all profit away from retailers. Not a good move for anyone.
It's a little more complicated than that. The removal of MSRP and launch of this product at such a stupidly high price for retailers pretty much let online retailers set the price for boxes of this set. And because the internet is full of stupid people, the idea of $200 boxes being the norm (and anyone charging more being depicted as gouging) spread like wildfire before the set was even released or retailers even knew what they were going to charge for them.
I don't blame Hasbro for anything aside from removing MSRP. If they hadn't, the MSRP for this would've been in the area of $300 and retailers would probably be a little more confident about ordering it because they wouldn't be losing as much money to the online sellers.
It does seem a tad bit high. They very well could and probably will print more as this set is "print to demand". I've noticed prices creeping down on booster boxes as we speak as well.
I think it's WAY overpriced. Not much here tells me this should be much more than a regular box. These pack prices are pushing prices of the singles to silly levels. At least they are coming down a bit, but false perceived scarcity will ruin this game. Charging $10-12 a pack to draft this set is really a punch in the face.
No one should be charging $10-12 per pack to draft this. $8-9 is the expected price.
But hoping boxes drop too much below $200 is foolish as they never should've been that low to begin with, considering what retailers are paying for them. This product is a nightmare for game stores that don't focus mainly on Magic. Despite being print to demand, there might be artificial rarity due to a lot of stores just not ordering much of it because it's impossible to actually make a profit on it.
Sadly $30-$35 seems to be the norm around here.
This is Hasbro setting the secondary market. They are taking all profit away from retailers. Not a good move for anyone.
It's a little more complicated than that. The removal of MSRP and launch of this product at such a stupidly high price for retailers pretty much let online retailers set the price for boxes of this set. And because the internet is full of stupid people, the idea of $200 boxes being the norm (and anyone charging more being depicted as gouging) spread like wildfire before the set was even released or retailers even knew what they were going to charge for them.
I don't blame Hasbro for anything aside from removing MSRP. If they hadn't, the MSRP for this would've been in the area of $300 and retailers would probably be a little more confident about ordering it because they wouldn't be losing as much money to the online sellers.
Why on earth should this set be $300 a box?! That's absurd!
Cards in this wouldn't be as expensive as they have been pre-ordering for had pricing not been through the roof. This should be like $4 bucks a pack max and $100 a box.
This isn't a masters set.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Currently Playing: Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me! Legacy: RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R RGBelcherRG WSoldier StompyW BReanimatorB EDH: BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
It's a little more complicated than that. The removal of MSRP and launch of this product at such a stupidly high price for retailers pretty much let online retailers set the price for boxes of this set. And because the internet is full of stupid people, the idea of $200 boxes being the norm (and anyone charging more being depicted as gouging) spread like wildfire before the set was even released or retailers even knew what they were going to charge for them.
I don't blame Hasbro for anything aside from removing MSRP. If they hadn't, the MSRP for this would've been in the area of $300 and retailers would probably be a little more confident about ordering it because they wouldn't be losing as much money to the online sellers.
Why on earth should this set be $300 a box?! That's absurd!
Cards in this wouldn't be as expensive as they have been pre-ordering for had pricing not been through the roof. This should be like $4 bucks a pack max and $100 a box.
This isn't a masters set.
That's how MSRP works. It's typically in the area of twice what a manufacturer charges the retailer for the product. Retailers are paying ~$170 per display for this. So the MSRP would've been ~$340 if WotC were still setting MSRP.
So while it's higher than a normal booster product, pricing for this has been NOWHERE near "through the roof" since most retailers (online and brick&mortar) are taking a massive loss on this product and charging in the area of $200 a box for it. It's still ridiculous, and if you think singles prices for this set are bad now, just wait until the impact of retailers under-ordering this takes effect. This entire thing is one giant mess for nearly everyone involved EXCEPT WotC, and what's worse is that WotC will blindly call it a success down the road.
And let's face it, the only thing that makes this not a Masters set is that WotC chose not to call it one. But it most certainly is.
It's a little more complicated than that. The removal of MSRP and launch of this product at such a stupidly high price for retailers pretty much let online retailers set the price for boxes of this set. And because the internet is full of stupid people, the idea of $200 boxes being the norm (and anyone charging more being depicted as gouging) spread like wildfire before the set was even released or retailers even knew what they were going to charge for them.
I don't blame Hasbro for anything aside from removing MSRP. If they hadn't, the MSRP for this would've been in the area of $300 and retailers would probably be a little more confident about ordering it because they wouldn't be losing as much money to the online sellers.
Why on earth should this set be $300 a box?! That's absurd!
Cards in this wouldn't be as expensive as they have been pre-ordering for had pricing not been through the roof. This should be like $4 bucks a pack max and $100 a box.
This isn't a masters set.
And let's face it, the only thing that makes this not a Masters set is that WotC chose not to call it one. But it most certainly is.
In what way? Reprints are meh at best and it has a bunch of Legacy light wannabe cards. This isn't a masters set at all. It's an overhyped standard set that's legal in modern.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Currently Playing: Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me! Legacy: RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R RGBelcherRG WSoldier StompyW BReanimatorB EDH: BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
Many others...
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
The set only has 15 mythic rare slots, so it would be overkill to include a whole cycle. Also, remember that the original swords were doled out in 1 or 2 per set, so there's no precedent for the whole cycle ending up in Horizons.
Yeah but the original swords were doled out over the course of 6-ish months. This cycle may not be complete for 2 more years (if they release Modern Horizons 2 next year, and Modern Horizons 3 the year after).
The first two swords where made in Darksteel (2004) while the rest of the cycle was published in the Scars of Mirrodin block (2010-2011).
Ohhh yeah. I forgot about that.
Still, I want to equip all 10 swords to Ghalta, Primal Hunger!!!
No one should be charging $10-12 per pack to draft this. $8-9 is the expected price.
But hoping boxes drop too much below $200 is foolish as they never should've been that low to begin with, considering what retailers are paying for them. This product is a nightmare for game stores that don't focus mainly on Magic. Despite being print to demand, there might be artificial rarity due to a lot of stores just not ordering much of it because it's impossible to actually make a profit on it.
Sadly $30-$35 seems to be the norm around here.
This is Hasbro setting the secondary market. They are taking all profit away from retailers. Not a good move for anyone.
Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
It's a little more complicated than that. The removal of MSRP and launch of this product at such a stupidly high price for retailers pretty much let online retailers set the price for boxes of this set. And because the internet is full of stupid people, the idea of $200 boxes being the norm (and anyone charging more being depicted as gouging) spread like wildfire before the set was even released or retailers even knew what they were going to charge for them.
I don't blame Hasbro for anything aside from removing MSRP. If they hadn't, the MSRP for this would've been in the area of $300 and retailers would probably be a little more confident about ordering it because they wouldn't be losing as much money to the online sellers.
Why on earth should this set be $300 a box?! That's absurd!
Cards in this wouldn't be as expensive as they have been pre-ordering for had pricing not been through the roof. This should be like $4 bucks a pack max and $100 a box.
This isn't a masters set.
Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB
That's how MSRP works. It's typically in the area of twice what a manufacturer charges the retailer for the product. Retailers are paying ~$170 per display for this. So the MSRP would've been ~$340 if WotC were still setting MSRP.
So while it's higher than a normal booster product, pricing for this has been NOWHERE near "through the roof" since most retailers (online and brick&mortar) are taking a massive loss on this product and charging in the area of $200 a box for it. It's still ridiculous, and if you think singles prices for this set are bad now, just wait until the impact of retailers under-ordering this takes effect. This entire thing is one giant mess for nearly everyone involved EXCEPT WotC, and what's worse is that WotC will blindly call it a success down the road.
And let's face it, the only thing that makes this not a Masters set is that WotC chose not to call it one. But it most certainly is.
In what way? Reprints are meh at best and it has a bunch of Legacy light wannabe cards. This isn't a masters set at all. It's an overhyped standard set that's legal in modern.
Currently Playing:
Standard:
Nothing, the format Bores me!
Legacy:
RBurn (Made on the Cheap!)R
RGBelcherRG
WSoldier StompyW
BReanimatorB
EDH:
BUGRWSliver OverlordWRGUB
BGeth, Lord of the VaultB