Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras. Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power. Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza. Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall. Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana. Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die. Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
It's a shame they limit recent designs to creatures/permanents you don't control. At least Path can be used to ramp if needed. both Assassin's Trophy and this are purposely limited in that way.
You lose one life for each creature exiled/destroyed this way?
No! Without any drawback. Black is the only color of magic that can have asymmetrical one-sided mass destructions without getting any further drawbacks besides high mana cost (Plague Wind, In Garruk's WakeOverwhelming Forces) so I'm expecting a spell that has a cheap cost for targeted destruction and a higher one than this white spell for overload. Maybe it wouldn't be playable in modern but surely would in EDH.
Half of the cards of the set are clearly designed with EDH in mind anyway.
As usual.
It's a shame they limit recent designs to creatures/permanents you don't control. At least Path can be used to ramp if needed. both Assassin's Trophy and this are purposely limited in that way.
Daaamn ! Overload Sorcery Path to Exile. 2 mana is good enough without Overload.
How is this good enough at a 2cmc sorcery without overload when you mention Path in the same sentence?
The part of “creatures you don’t control” is there soo when you overload it your stuff isn’t exiled. Overload makes the spell do the effect for all things ( remove “target” and put a “each”).
I wonder if it could be used vs hexproof stuff..
And so continue the chronicles of Commander Horizons.
Do you ever do anything except whine about "Commander Horizons" even on cards that are trash in Commander?
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras. Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power. Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza. Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall. Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana. Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die. Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
And so continue the chronicles of Commander Horizons.
Do you ever do anything except whine about "Commander Horizons" even on cards that are trash in Commander?
One-sided mass removals that wins over hexproof/protection/indestructible are never thrash and six mana it's a very fair cost for this effect. In my meta it's full of 3 color decks that runs few or no basics at all, so I will certainly put this card in one or more of my decks.
It's a shame they limit recent designs to creatures/permanents you don't control. At least Path can be used to ramp if needed. both Assassin's Trophy and this are purposely limited in that way.
The part of “creatures you don’t control” is there soo when you overload it your stuff isn’t exiled. Overload makes the spell do the effect for all things ( remove “target” and put a “each”).
I wonder if it could be used vs hexproof stuff..
It slots well into paths 5-6 for hatebears/D&T (decks running Leonin Arbiter. It’s also decent against Aggro decks that don’t want lands or decks that don’t run a lot of basics, which is basically the top 5 decks. I’d gladly give a Pheonix player a land for a TitI/Phoenix. Overall, I think it was designed first as a card for limited/EDH, and then everything else.
It's a shame they limit recent designs to creatures/permanents you don't control. At least Path can be used to ramp if needed. both Assassin's Trophy and this are purposely limited in that way.
I think it's an interesting design and I won't say that is a good card yet, but I have a feeling it's better in application than most of us suspect. Obviously Path is better in a strictly single target sense, but the versatility this offers could still make it very useful.
A slightly worse PtE isn't necessarily bad - PtE is chief among white removal. Also consider that this is the cheapest non-conditional one sided wrath we've seen (that I can think of). I'm eager to try it out.
From a commander point of view, this card is not good. Land ramp is not where you want your opponents to be at. I'll definitely abandon the idea of playing it.
This is a disappointment in the sense that it is probably THE white removal card that was designated for us - but lets not act like an exile that can double as a one-sided board wipe is bad. In the right context this card is going to be very very good.
@Loki_Lulamen This card is a finisher for white decks needing to push through their damage. No one casting this overloaded and not winning that turn will feel good.
this is a good card better than the gifts card that created a 3/3 only thing is this is target creature.. should have been target permanent to get planeswalkers and such
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I feel this could've should've been an instant.
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Its a sorcery speed boardwipe that ramps the hell out of your opponents.
@BounceBurnBuff its creatures you don't control. So you cant even ramp yourself with it.
I kinda want to say that its a strictly worse Settle the Wreckage
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But Settle the Wreckage reads "attacking creatures". You may cast Winds of Abandon before combat phase and then attacking with your own creatures.
You lose one life for each creature exiled/destroyed this way?
How is this good enough at a 2cmc sorcery without overload when you mention Path in the same sentence?
Modern: WUBRG Humans - GBW Traverse - GWU Knightfall - GRW
No! Without any drawback. Black is the only color of magic that can have asymmetrical one-sided mass destructions without getting any further drawbacks besides high mana cost (Plague Wind, In Garruk's Wake Overwhelming Forces) so I'm expecting a spell that has a cheap cost for targeted destruction and a higher one than this white spell for overload. Maybe it wouldn't be playable in modern but surely would in EDH.
Half of the cards of the set are clearly designed with EDH in mind anyway.
As usual.
The part of “creatures you don’t control” is there soo when you overload it your stuff isn’t exiled. Overload makes the spell do the effect for all things ( remove “target” and put a “each”).
I wonder if it could be used vs hexproof stuff..
Do you ever do anything except whine about "Commander Horizons" even on cards that are trash in Commander?
One-sided mass removals that wins over hexproof/protection/indestructible are never thrash and six mana it's a very fair cost for this effect. In my meta it's full of 3 color decks that runs few or no basics at all, so I will certainly put this card in one or more of my decks.
Yes offcourse. My bad
Modern: WUBRG Humans - GBW Traverse - GWU Knightfall - GRW
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Cuz Path is great. This one is no path, but simply good enough @ 2 mana
A slightly worse PtE isn't necessarily bad - PtE is chief among white removal. Also consider that this is the cheapest non-conditional one sided wrath we've seen (that I can think of). I'm eager to try it out.
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