Quote from 13055 »Sacrificing at the beginning of your upkeep makes this so much worse. You can't sneak into play at end of turn and attack the next turn.
Quote from mapccu »Red has been getting a lot of incremental damage increases over the last couple of years (pyromancer's gauntlet, the flame of keld, and jaya, venerated firemage). This could eventually end up quite the beating if they let shields down long enough and you can pump the elementals. They have trample AND haste - which is important because you can EoT deal with whatever they can't get through (a tap effect, bounce effect, or burn it off the board) uptap and get in for 6 or more if you can pump these.
I like it and for burn it lets you pitch two some higher CMC stuff if you're getting mana screwed. Being able to refuel for something to pitch to this off the new canopy lands is also just straight gravy.
Worse case scenario, burn can still go t1 guide, t2 do a thing or two, t3 this hard casted. That's 3 lands and 3-4 cards from hand leaving them up 2 cards after getting in for 12+ (the + being whatever t2 was and whatever is left in your hand). That's still a super fast start that a lot of decks are going to have issues with with only t1 and t2 mana.
Burn can also pitch 2 of these and a couple of cards and get you into top deck range on like t2 off t1 guide swing for 2, t2 pitch 2 cards and play two of these to swing in with guide for 14 putting you at 4 before you've added any fetch/shock damage. that's 1 goblin guide, 2 of these, 2 red spells and 1 land out of an opening 7 (leaving them 2 draws to get more gas). Just a single fetch puts them in top deck range.
It's good imo.
Quote from motleyslayer »This card could be one that I underestimate but it seems pretty bad to me. Seems like you'll be casting it more than pitching to it
Quote from Erix »At first glance I wasn't big on it, but when I think about it as usually just a better Ball Lightning, since it can't be blanked by a single lightning bolt, I guess it's okay.
Quote from dr. teeth I 'm a big fan of flavor, but I sure prefer the taste of bacon to buttholes.
Quote from Red Foil Fencer »Quote from Erix »At first glance I wasn't big on it, but when I think about it as usually just a better Ball Lightning, since it can't be blanked by a single lightning bolt, I guess it's okay.
Two bodies can very easily be worse when they're only 3 power and it's harder to fully trample over.
Losing two cards for surprise blockers may be sweet in limited but in constructed who cares? Three mana for a conditional six damage is eh especially considering the comparison to the new ball blightning thing.
The white force may not be gangbusters but this card is baaaaaaaad