I can't say any of them but Karn and Ugin are as good as the regular arts. Most of them are on the bad side for me, and it's not even like I hate anime art. Nicol Bolas looks better on his Duel Masters card than he does here. I just feel the quality of these are lacking.
I find Davriel, Liliana, Jace probably, Ob Nix, Sarkhan, Tibal, Domri (especially!), Taimyo, Angrath, Ashiok (way better), even Kiora all firm upgrades.
I can't say any of them but Karn and Ugin are as good as the regular arts. Most of them are on the bad side for me, and it's not even like I hate anime art. Nicol Bolas looks better on his Duel Masters card than he does here. I just feel the quality of these are lacking.
I find Davriel, Liliana, Jace probably, Ob Nix, Sarkhan, Tibal, Domri (especially!), Taimyo, Angrath, Ashiok (way better), even Kiora all firm upgrades.
I have to disagree with Tamiyo. The "kawaii chibi" look on her doesn't fit her character at all, it feels totally out of place for me. She's a serious and mature mom and scholar, not a random japanese teenager idol.
I can't say any of them but Karn and Ugin are as good as the regular arts. Most of them are on the bad side for me, and it's not even like I hate anime art. Nicol Bolas looks better on his Duel Masters card than he does here. I just feel the quality of these are lacking.
I find Davriel, Liliana, Jace probably, Ob Nix, Sarkhan, Tibal, Domri (especially!), Taimyo, Angrath, Ashiok (way better), even Kiora all firm upgrades.
Davriel is indeed a little better, although the original is good too.
Tamiyo going to get one as well, because the original ravnica art puts me off - her face looks worse than previous arts, and neck magically shortened by the artist.
For comparison. Tamiyo field researcher and Moon Sage
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Although for buying... I put priority on getting Teyo, Narset, Davriel and Ashiok. As I have decks waiting to try them.
The rest can wait when budget allows.
Tamiyo is a weird one. I like her in concept because I like the moonfolk, but there hasn't been a depiction of her that conviced me of the actual character design, including the two most recent ones. It's her "hair horns" that irk me the most, they just look like they shouldn't work (is there any old-timey Japanese hairdo they are based on?). They look best on the "anime version" because the style removes the character even further from reality than it already is. I'd still just wish they'd give her a new hairstyle.
So I opened the God box I pre ordered from my lgs for $100.
Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
So I opened the God box I pre ordered from my lgs for $100.
Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
What some fool ASKS for a card is NOT what its worth.
Thats HILARIOUS $2000
Try maybe 1/10 of that
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Some of these are really cartoonish (which I don't exactly object to, it just makes it look more kid-friendly), but some of the others are quite impressive.
Kiora, Ashiok, Angrath, Huatli and Domri are all much more animated and pleasant to look at. That Karn is fantastic. Don't care for Ugin, though, he looks like a hummingbird.
So I opened the God box I pre ordered from my lgs for $100.
Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
4 english ones? you mean regular art? because as far as i know the whole box was japanese language?
So I opened the God box I pre ordered from my lgs for $100.
Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
4 english ones? you mean regular art? because as far as i know the whole box was japanese language?
Yeah, I was tired last night, I meant 4 Western art and 5 Japanese art planeswalkers.
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So I opened the God box I pre ordered from my lgs for $100.
Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
What some fool ASKS for a card is NOT what its worth.
Thats HILARIOUS $2000
Try maybe 1/10 of that
Well it's worth more than $200 since I sold it to my lgs today for $600 cash. So obviously they think the can sell it for $1000+ or have pre-sold it already.
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Well thats fantastic for you!!
In your box, shouldnt you have gotten 35 other planeswalkers with some 12-18 of them being japanese??
Confused on why you only got 10 planeswalkers in a box?
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Tamiyo going to get one as well, because the original ravnica art puts me off - her face looks worse than previous arts, and neck magically shortened by the artist.
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Yeah I feel like a LOT are being orgasmic and gunning for the Yo*****aka Amano Liliana. But for artistic sense, I am go for getting Naochika Mori*****a's Karn or Ral since they're just rare and might be EASIER to get. And there are SOME of the uncommons/rares that I am interested in as well
Would be interested if Kaida Yuji who does the Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God also did Ugin or if maybe even got a BIT more artistic freedom Kaida could nail Nicol Bolas considering he does Godzilla and friends
Yeah I feel like a LOT are being orgasmic and gunning for the Yo*****aka Amano Liliana. But for artistic sense, I am go for getting Naochika Mori*****a's Karn or Ral since they're just rare and might be EASIER to get. And there are SOME of the uncommons/rares that I am interested in as well
Would be interested if Kaida Yuji who does the Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God also did Ugin or if maybe even got a BIT more artistic freedom Kaida could nail Nicol Bolas considering he does Godzilla and friends
Yeah, I like Ral, Chandra and domri from the rare planeswalkers. I got a Chandra and ral in my box already, just need the domri.
The uncommons ones I like davriel, and tibalt and ashiok. I can get them easily here but foil ones are impossible to get, maybe one or less per box.
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I ordered a case (6 Displays) of JAP WAR before this Hype/News rumored.
At that Point it was clear for me: put them by side and have fun many years later. Now I don’t know what to do…
How big is a Second or even third printrun in a JAP set usually?
I ordered a case (6 Displays) of JAP WAR before this Hype/News rumored.
At that Point it was clear for me: put them by side and have fun many years later. Now I don’t know what to do…
How big is a Second or even third printrun in a JAP set usually?
They said that Japanese WAR will be print-to-demand, just like English. I don't think there will be a super-huge premium on Japanese boxes for as long as the set's in print, but they'll probably start to appreciate at a faster rate once the set's out of print.
Individual cards (and especially foils) will always carry a high premium, however.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Just so everyone in this thread knows. The Japanese alternate art planeswalkers are going to be given out in promo packs to stores to hand out as prizes world wide. This will happen for Core set 2020. So don't go too nuts with spending money on these alternate art cards. They will be more available than you think. You can get one at a FNM as a prize.
Not fnm, standard showdown only, and you have to win those packs, and maybe you'll get mostly uncommons ones. Also they period will run for 3-4 months only.
So, if you want them you should get them soon, don't wait for the showdown packs.
Either way I'm trading mine now, cause I can always buy more packs later.
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Just so everyone in this thread knows. The Japanese alternate art planeswalkers are going to be given out in promo packs to stores to hand out as prizes world wide. This will happen for Core set 2020. So don't go too nuts with spending money on these alternate art cards. They will be more available than you think. You can get one at a FNM as a prize.
Not fnm, standard showdown only, and you have to win those packs, and maybe you'll get mostly uncommons ones. Also they period will run for 3-4 months only.
So, if you want them you should get them soon, don't wait for the showdown packs.
Either way I'm trading mine now, cause I can always buy more packs later.
And what about giving them out? That's simpler than ever. They're discretionary. (Store: "How do we give them out?" Wizards: "However best serves your players.") They're event-agnostic. (Store: "Which events are these for?" Wizards: "Whatever's best for your community.") You get the idea.
so yeah its whatever event your store wants to give them out at.
your logic for trading them away btw is exactly why people shouldnt try to get them soon. stores were caught flat footed ordering JPN boxes. i imagine within the next few weeks US stores will start getting their orders fulfilled, and stores WILL have ordered them; the alt art walkers put box EV way above cost.
getting packs/boxes and opening is alright if your into that sort of thing, but online/lgs singles prices will drop accordingly. i will note though that opening product yourself for the walkers leaves you holding a lot of foreign cards that are historically hard to move.
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Just so everyone in this thread knows. The Japanese alternate art planeswalkers are going to be given out in promo packs to stores to hand out as prizes world wide. This will happen for Core set 2020. So don't go too nuts with spending money on these alternate art cards. They will be more available than you think. You can get one at a FNM as a prize.
Not fnm, standard showdown only, and you have to win those packs, and maybe you'll get mostly uncommons ones. Also they period will run for 3-4 months only.
So, if you want them you should get them soon, don't wait for the showdown packs.
Either way I'm trading mine now, cause I can always buy more packs later.
And what about giving them out? That's simpler than ever. They're discretionary. (Store: "How do we give them out?" Wizards: "However best serves your players.") They're event-agnostic. (Store: "Which events are these for?" Wizards: "Whatever's best for your community.") You get the idea.
so yeah its whatever event your store wants to give them out at.
your logic for trading them away btw is exactly why people shouldnt try to get them soon. stores were caught flat footed ordering JPN boxes. i imagine within the next few weeks US stores will start getting their orders fulfilled, and stores WILL have ordered them; the alt art walkers put box EV way above cost.
getting packs/boxes and opening is alright if your into that sort of thing, but online/lgs singles prices will drop accordingly. i will note though that opening product yourself for the walkers leaves you holding a lot of foreign cards that are historically hard to move.
Someone gave me the wrong info then about FNM, I didn't realize that they would give out packs for FNM instead of single cards as they're doing right now. Or do they give the packs to the store and the store decides how to split the cards, I'm kind of confused by the article because at the end they said that the stores will have final say on how they give out the promos, which is a little bit scary.
The EV for Japanese boxes is probably double the box cost so about $220-240 per box since I've noticed that in a box you will usually get either 1 gideon, 1 liliana or 1 bolas.
And there are a lot of teferis in Japanese boxes (I opened two boxes and got 1 in each box, my friend opened 4 boxes and got one in each box as well which is 6 teferis in 6 boxes, I don't think that's a coincidence).
Also my friend got 3 bolas and 1 liliana out of his 4 boxes which also makes me think that my previous estimate of one BIG mythic per box is true. I also opened two boxes and got 1 Alt art Gideon in each box which also matches my theory, although this is for Japanese boxes only.
As for being able to trade the cards I live in Tokyo so people here want Japanese cards more than English ones, so my original post was also correct about trading the Alt walkers while they're hot and before people get more of them and then the price will go down.
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Someone gave me the wrong info then about FNM, I didn't realize that they would give out packs for FNM instead of single cards as they're doing right now. Or do they give the packs to the store and the store decides how to split the cards, I'm kind of confused by the article because at the end they said that the stores will have final say on how they give out the promos, which is a little bit scary.
The EV for Japanese boxes is probably double the box cost so about $220-240 per box since I've noticed that in a box you will usually get either 1 gideon, 1 liliana or 1 bolas.
And there are a lot of teferis in Japanese boxes (I opened two boxes and got 1 in each box, my friend opened 4 boxes and got one in each box as well which is 6 teferis in 6 boxes, I don't think that's a coincidence).
Also my friend got 3 bolas and 1 liliana out of his 4 boxes which also makes me think that my previous estimate of one BIG mythic per box is true. I also opened two boxes and got 1 Alt art Gideon in each box which also matches my theory, although this is for Japanese boxes only.
As for being able to trade the cards I live in Tokyo so people here want Japanese cards more than English ones, so my original post was also correct about trading the Alt walkers while they're hot and before people get more of them and then the price will go down.
the way i understood the article is that 'promo packs' would be replacing all different promos for any events. the store then gets to decide how they rewards the packs, as in they technically shouldnt be opening them. im basing this off the article saying 'But they'll be in packs of four, giving players more cards'. from what comments ive seen from lgs owners though, is that unless you are one of the biggest most popular stores that can meet the new WPN requirements then stores wont be getting many packs overall (compared to how many promo cards they got).
yeah, my apologies, i assumed you were in the US/NA out of ignorance. if you live in tokyo then they will be everywhere
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I find Davriel, Liliana, Jace probably, Ob Nix, Sarkhan, Tibal, Domri (especially!), Taimyo, Angrath, Ashiok (way better), even Kiora all firm upgrades.
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I have to disagree with Tamiyo. The "kawaii chibi" look on her doesn't fit her character at all, it feels totally out of place for me. She's a serious and mature mom and scholar, not a random japanese teenager idol.
Davriel is indeed a little better, although the original is good too.
Tamiyo going to get one as well, because the original ravnica art puts me off - her face looks worse than previous arts, and neck magically shortened by the artist.
For comparison. Tamiyo field researcher and Moon Sage
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Although for buying... I put priority on getting Teyo, Narset, Davriel and Ashiok. As I have decks waiting to try them.
The rest can wait when budget allows.
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Got the foil Japanese Liliana that's going for $2000 on ebay.
Got 9 other planeswalkers, including 5 Japanese ones and 4 English ones.
Got two gods and other rares.
Box Ev is about $2000+, which is crazy for a standard set and the most expensive box I've ever opened or maybe ever open.
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Luck like that is really awesome!
What some fool ASKS for a card is NOT what its worth.
Thats HILARIOUS $2000
Try maybe 1/10 of that
Kiora, Ashiok, Angrath, Huatli and Domri are all much more animated and pleasant to look at. That Karn is fantastic. Don't care for Ugin, though, he looks like a hummingbird.
4 english ones? you mean regular art? because as far as i know the whole box was japanese language?
Yeah, I was tired last night, I meant 4 Western art and 5 Japanese art planeswalkers.
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Thanks, it's an incredible pull because the odds of opening that card are about 1 in 40+ boxes.
The store employee said he opened 1500 packs for the store pre-sale and he only got 1 Foil Japanese Liliana from that many packs.
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Well it's worth more than $200 since I sold it to my lgs today for $600 cash. So obviously they think the can sell it for $1000+ or have pre-sold it already.
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In your box, shouldnt you have gotten 35 other planeswalkers with some 12-18 of them being japanese??
Confused on why you only got 10 planeswalkers in a box?
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Yeah, I got 9 other rare/mythic planeswalkers, of course I got a lot of the uncommon ones.
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Would be interested if Kaida Yuji who does the Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God also did Ugin or if maybe even got a BIT more artistic freedom Kaida could nail Nicol Bolas considering he does Godzilla and friends
Yeah, I like Ral, Chandra and domri from the rare planeswalkers. I got a Chandra and ral in my box already, just need the domri.
The uncommons ones I like davriel, and tibalt and ashiok. I can get them easily here but foil ones are impossible to get, maybe one or less per box.
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At that Point it was clear for me: put them by side and have fun many years later. Now I don’t know what to do…
How big is a Second or even third printrun in a JAP set usually?
They said that Japanese WAR will be print-to-demand, just like English. I don't think there will be a super-huge premium on Japanese boxes for as long as the set's in print, but they'll probably start to appreciate at a faster rate once the set's out of print.
Individual cards (and especially foils) will always carry a high premium, however.
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Not fnm, standard showdown only, and you have to win those packs, and maybe you'll get mostly uncommons ones. Also they period will run for 3-4 months only.
So, if you want them you should get them soon, don't wait for the showdown packs.
Either way I'm trading mine now, cause I can always buy more packs later.
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your logic for trading them away btw is exactly why people shouldnt try to get them soon. stores were caught flat footed ordering JPN boxes. i imagine within the next few weeks US stores will start getting their orders fulfilled, and stores WILL have ordered them; the alt art walkers put box EV way above cost.
getting packs/boxes and opening is alright if your into that sort of thing, but online/lgs singles prices will drop accordingly. i will note though that opening product yourself for the walkers leaves you holding a lot of foreign cards that are historically hard to move.
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The EV for Japanese boxes is probably double the box cost so about $220-240 per box since I've noticed that in a box you will usually get either 1 gideon, 1 liliana or 1 bolas.
And there are a lot of teferis in Japanese boxes (I opened two boxes and got 1 in each box, my friend opened 4 boxes and got one in each box as well which is 6 teferis in 6 boxes, I don't think that's a coincidence).
Also my friend got 3 bolas and 1 liliana out of his 4 boxes which also makes me think that my previous estimate of one BIG mythic per box is true. I also opened two boxes and got 1 Alt art Gideon in each box which also matches my theory, although this is for Japanese boxes only.
As for being able to trade the cards I live in Tokyo so people here want Japanese cards more than English ones, so my original post was also correct about trading the Alt walkers while they're hot and before people get more of them and then the price will go down.
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yeah, my apologies, i assumed you were in the US/NA out of ignorance. if you live in tokyo then they will be everywhere
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